Comments on: Hot if and only if Fly http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/01/12/hot-if-and-only-if-fly/ Random samplings from a universe of ideas. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:25:28 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: It's Not Really a Party... | Cosmic Variance http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/01/12/hot-if-and-only-if-fly/comment-page-1/#comment-35891 It's Not Really a Party... | Cosmic Variance Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:55:51 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/01/12/hot-if-and-only-if-fly/#comment-35891 [...] and Einstein’s equation (twice), but some hurricanes, stem cells, allusion to a recent blog post, and a clever design for a lunar [...] [...] and Einstein’s equation (twice), but some hurricanes, stem cells, allusion to a recent blog post, and a clever design for a lunar [...]

]]> By: Dylan http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/01/12/hot-if-and-only-if-fly/comment-page-1/#comment-35890 Dylan Wed, 16 Jan 2008 01:33:06 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/01/12/hot-if-and-only-if-fly/#comment-35890 I think much can be shed on the circular nature of the rappers argument, the poor grammar and the lack of details by realising that he is in fact and american rapper, and while he does purport to <em>be</em> fly he does not and in fact cannot boast being as smart as one. I think much can be shed on the circular nature of the rappers argument, the poor grammar and the lack of details by realising that he is in fact and american rapper, and while he does purport to be fly he does not and in fact cannot boast being as smart as one.

]]> By: B http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/01/12/hot-if-and-only-if-fly/comment-page-1/#comment-35889 B Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:22:54 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/01/12/hot-if-and-only-if-fly/#comment-35889 <i>"and that frankly will not fly you will hear the shrillest highs and lowest lows with the windows down"</i> ~ <a href="http://www.lyricsdomain.com/20/the_postal_service/such_great_heights.html" rel="nofollow">The Postal Service</a> “and that frankly will not fly
you will hear the shrillest highs
and lowest lows with the windows down”
~ The Postal Service

]]> By: Huh? http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/01/12/hot-if-and-only-if-fly/comment-page-1/#comment-35888 Huh? Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:43:45 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/01/12/hot-if-and-only-if-fly/#comment-35888 Sorry, not really. I'm actually all hat and not much cattle. For a sophisticated point of view on these things, you might try some introductions to topos theory. Sorry, not really. I’m actually all hat and not much cattle. For a sophisticated point of view on these things, you might try some introductions to topos theory.

]]> By: Neil B. http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/01/12/hot-if-and-only-if-fly/comment-page-1/#comment-35887 Neil B. Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:56:11 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/01/12/hot-if-and-only-if-fly/#comment-35887 Huh?, I am interested in non-classical logic/s, if you know any good links/experts/books etc. pls. LMK, tx Huh?, I am interested in non-classical logic/s, if you know any good links/experts/books etc. pls. LMK, tx

]]> By: Huh? http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/01/12/hot-if-and-only-if-fly/comment-page-1/#comment-35874 Huh? Mon, 14 Jan 2008 04:14:20 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/01/12/hot-if-and-only-if-fly/#comment-35874 The only argument I know of that shows that the statements "A implies B" and "not A implies not B" together imply "A is equivalent to B" uses the Law of the Excluded Middle. Perhaps Mr. MIMS is working in a non-classical logic, in which case Mr. Harvilla's analysis is off the mark. The only argument I know of that shows that the statements “A implies B” and “not A implies not B” together imply “A is equivalent to B” uses the Law of the Excluded Middle. Perhaps Mr. MIMS is working in a non-classical logic, in which case Mr. Harvilla’s analysis is off the mark.

]]> By: Neil B. http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/01/12/hot-if-and-only-if-fly/comment-page-1/#comment-35876 Neil B. Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:38:59 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/01/12/hot-if-and-only-if-fly/#comment-35876 Hey, just a reminder dig at logical positivism: It's founding statements (best put as "Every statement is either synthetic or analytical" and "Statements that aren't experimentally/operationally verifiable [if not analytically verifiable from those that are, and which allows mathematics and not just physical references] are meaningless" effectively violate their own premises. (Reflect on it, I can tell you why if asked.) Being a circular statement is better than being self-contradictory, and how could such "bright people" not see the irony in their formulations? I love to throw this up at the militant skeptiwanks agitating at oft strident outfits like Pharyngula. Hey, just a reminder dig at logical positivism: It’s founding statements (best put as “Every statement is either synthetic or analytical” and “Statements that aren’t experimentally/operationally verifiable [if not analytically verifiable from those that are, and which allows mathematics and not just physical references] are meaningless” effectively violate their own premises. (Reflect on it, I can tell you why if asked.) Being a circular statement is better than being self-contradictory, and how could such “bright people” not see the irony in their formulations? I love to throw this up at the militant skeptiwanks agitating at oft strident outfits like Pharyngula.

]]> By: fh http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/01/12/hot-if-and-only-if-fly/comment-page-1/#comment-35886 fh Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:31:21 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/01/12/hot-if-and-only-if-fly/#comment-35886 So Huckabee is on the offensive trying to destroy something worth defending and is getting to close for comfort? sounds about right. So Huckabee is on the offensive trying to destroy something worth defending and is getting to close for comfort?

sounds about right.

]]> By: Odani of the Streets http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/01/12/hot-if-and-only-if-fly/comment-page-1/#comment-35885 Odani of the Streets Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:23:33 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/01/12/hot-if-and-only-if-fly/#comment-35885 That song is so last year. Is Mims even like, still alive? That song is so last year. Is Mims even like, still alive?

]]> By: Scott Aaronson http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/01/12/hot-if-and-only-if-fly/comment-page-1/#comment-35875 Scott Aaronson Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:20:52 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/01/12/hot-if-and-only-if-fly/#comment-35875 Sean, I heard that song playing once (even <i>I</i> get out occasionally...), and was also puzzled about the structure of the rapper's argument. After a bit of reflection, though, the resolution hit me: by offering such a manifestly circular hotness argument, the rapper is, in effect, claiming that his hotness is so self-evident that it does not require external justification. Sean, I heard that song playing once (even I get out occasionally…), and was also puzzled about the structure of the rapper’s argument. After a bit of reflection, though, the resolution hit me: by offering such a manifestly circular hotness argument, the rapper is, in effect, claiming that his hotness is so self-evident that it does not require external justification.

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