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		<title>By: Lewis Perdue</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/02/12/signaling/comment-page-1/#comment-36959</link>
		<dc:creator>Lewis Perdue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 16:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This would be why you wore a coat and tie for your Teaching Company lectures?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This would be why you wore a coat and tie for your Teaching Company lectures?</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/02/12/signaling/comment-page-1/#comment-36958</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You only need a suit+tie if you don&#039;t have anything important to say, and so in order to look compelling you need to look nice saying it.

I know some people who prefer to be dressed up, but in fields where it&#039;s easy to tell sense from nonsense, being smartly dressed is no substitute for being smart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You only need a suit+tie if you don&#8217;t have anything important to say, and so in order to look compelling you need to look nice saying it.</p>
<p>I know some people who prefer to be dressed up, but in fields where it&#8217;s easy to tell sense from nonsense, being smartly dressed is no substitute for being smart.</p>
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		<title>By: Reactions to UUC &#171; Entertaining Research</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/02/12/signaling/comment-page-1/#comment-36946</link>
		<dc:creator>Reactions to UUC &#171; Entertaining Research</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Boy, was I wrong! Some of the finest bloggers respond to it: Cosma Shalizi, Brad Delong, and Sean Carroll. The latest response is from The Inverse Square Blog (via Coturnix). Take a look &#8212; all of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Boy, was I wrong! Some of the finest bloggers respond to it: Cosma Shalizi, Brad Delong, and Sean Carroll. The latest response is from The Inverse Square Blog (via Coturnix). Take a look &#8212; all of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Solo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/02/12/signaling/comment-page-1/#comment-36957</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Solo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgot to add : The article is on pg. 13 entitled &quot;The Couture of Particle Physics&quot; (see post above)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot to add : The article is on pg. 13 entitled &#8220;The Couture of Particle Physics&#8221; (see post above)</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Solo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/02/12/signaling/comment-page-1/#comment-36956</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Solo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While we are on the subject of clothing, I&#039;d just like to post a link to one of my favorite physics fashion articles :

www.fnal.gov/pub/ferminews/FermiNews99-09-03.pdf

You can also find it by googling &quot;fermilab fashion&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While we are on the subject of clothing, I&#8217;d just like to post a link to one of my favorite physics fashion articles :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fnal.gov/pub/ferminews/FermiNews99-09-03.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.fnal.gov/pub/ferminews/FermiNews99-09-03.pdf</a></p>
<p>You can also find it by googling &#8220;fermilab fashion&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: eric gisse</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/02/12/signaling/comment-page-1/#comment-36955</link>
		<dc:creator>eric gisse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most dressed up any of my professors get for class is shirt and slacks. If I saw any of them wearing a tie, I&#039;d wonder what the event is.

Hm, that makes me realize something - I have never seen a woman wear a tie. You&#039;d think a tie would be something that works /with/ cleavage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most dressed up any of my professors get for class is shirt and slacks. If I saw any of them wearing a tie, I&#8217;d wonder what the event is.</p>
<p>Hm, that makes me realize something &#8211; I have never seen a woman wear a tie. You&#8217;d think a tie would be something that works /with/ cleavage.</p>
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		<title>By: Dylan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/02/12/signaling/comment-page-1/#comment-36954</link>
		<dc:creator>Dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps I&#039;ve just had a different experience because the culture here in australia is a bit different (we live 3 inches from the sun and appropriate concessions have to be made) but it&#039;s been my observation, and backed up in discussion with others, that no one of real importance wears a tie unless they&#039;re on TV.

If you own the company, why on earth would you wear something so impractical and uncomfortable? Likewise if you have genuine talent or marketable skills. Even the more important sales people (account managers in companies) generally wear casual clothes, I think it&#039;s almost appreciated because it starts to break down barriers before you even open your mouth.

About the only people I see wearing ties on a regular basis are low-level sales drones (the ones who are trying to sell you luxury items you don&#039;t need) and middle management.

my 2c..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps I&#8217;ve just had a different experience because the culture here in australia is a bit different (we live 3 inches from the sun and appropriate concessions have to be made) but it&#8217;s been my observation, and backed up in discussion with others, that no one of real importance wears a tie unless they&#8217;re on TV.</p>
<p>If you own the company, why on earth would you wear something so impractical and uncomfortable? Likewise if you have genuine talent or marketable skills. Even the more important sales people (account managers in companies) generally wear casual clothes, I think it&#8217;s almost appreciated because it starts to break down barriers before you even open your mouth.</p>
<p>About the only people I see wearing ties on a regular basis are low-level sales drones (the ones who are trying to sell you luxury items you don&#8217;t need) and middle management.</p>
<p>my 2c..</p>
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		<title>By: Lackey</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/02/12/signaling/comment-page-1/#comment-36953</link>
		<dc:creator>Lackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s so wrong with dressing nice? Certainly, one has the freedom to dress however they want, but why make fun of those who do dress nice?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s so wrong with dressing nice? Certainly, one has the freedom to dress however they want, but why make fun of those who do dress nice?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/02/12/signaling/comment-page-1/#comment-36952</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;ll make me wear a tie to teach in when they wrap it around my cold, dead neck...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;ll make me wear a tie to teach in when they wrap it around my cold, dead neck&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Paul Freeley</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/02/12/signaling/comment-page-1/#comment-36951</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Paul Freeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whenever I saw an astronomer dressed up, I used to ask who&#039;s funeral they were going to.

I stopped using that joke after someone replied with a name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever I saw an astronomer dressed up, I used to ask who&#8217;s funeral they were going to.</p>
<p>I stopped using that joke after someone replied with a name.</p>
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		<title>By: andy.s</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/02/12/signaling/comment-page-1/#comment-36950</link>
		<dc:creator>andy.s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the software industry, if you wear a suit or tie to work, everybody knows you&#039;ve got an interview for another job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the software industry, if you wear a suit or tie to work, everybody knows you&#8217;ve got an interview for another job.</p>
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		<title>By: Benn</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/02/12/signaling/comment-page-1/#comment-36945</link>
		<dc:creator>Benn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This, of course, is different from places like Fermilab, where the only person wearing a tie is the photocopier repairman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This, of course, is different from places like Fermilab, where the only person wearing a tie is the photocopier repairman.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Themel's Wannabe Everything - Dress Code in Academia</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/02/12/signaling/comment-page-1/#comment-36944</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Themel's Wannabe Everything - Dress Code in Academia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on February 13, 2008.  Another take on my perennial favourite social convention, the dress code: Signalling (on Cosmic [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on February 13, 2008.  Another take on my perennial favourite social convention, the dress code: Signalling (on Cosmic [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Luis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/02/12/signaling/comment-page-1/#comment-36949</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 05:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a problem, though, on those occasions where the students outdress you. Last year I taught in Amsterdam, where students (especially female ones) are notoriously fond of dressing up for class. Not really formal clothing, but fancy enough that it would allow them to walk into an upscale posh club. On the first day of class, I went with on a pair of jeans, a t-shirt, and sneakers. I could tell they were not taking me seriously enough, so it was slacks and shirts for the rest of the semester.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a problem, though, on those occasions where the students outdress you. Last year I taught in Amsterdam, where students (especially female ones) are notoriously fond of dressing up for class. Not really formal clothing, but fancy enough that it would allow them to walk into an upscale posh club. On the first day of class, I went with on a pair of jeans, a t-shirt, and sneakers. I could tell they were not taking me seriously enough, so it was slacks and shirts for the rest of the semester.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/02/12/signaling/comment-page-1/#comment-36948</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 03:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that some otherwise highly intelligent people can&#039;t figure out that arguing over who gets to wear the &quot;really serious&quot; hats is immensely silly?

In reality, if your students are addressing you as, say, &quot;Chuck&quot; or &quot;Bob&quot; instead of &quot;Herr Doktor Professor&quot;, then it doesn&#039;t really matter if you wear a suit and tie or a wetsuit and surfboard to class every day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that some otherwise highly intelligent people can&#8217;t figure out that arguing over who gets to wear the &#8220;really serious&#8221; hats is immensely silly?</p>
<p>In reality, if your students are addressing you as, say, &#8220;Chuck&#8221; or &#8220;Bob&#8221; instead of &#8220;Herr Doktor Professor&#8221;, then it doesn&#8217;t really matter if you wear a suit and tie or a wetsuit and surfboard to class every day.</p>
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		<title>By: gyokusai</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/02/12/signaling/comment-page-1/#comment-36947</link>
		<dc:creator>gyokusai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 03:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right after the introduction, this diatribe spends &lt;em&gt;three whole paragraphs&lt;/em&gt; for the purpose of denigrating John Randolph Neal, a defense lawyer from the Scopes Trial. Does that smell fishy? Here&#039;s a bit to chew on and see how much the fishiness goes:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Edward Larson describes a law professor who, after being fired, represented Scopes in the 1925 monkey trial.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

From what I heard, Neal &lt;em&gt;was&lt;/em&gt; somewhat excentric and became even more so with time. But the point is, wasn&#039;t he &quot;fired&quot; from his office as a dean from the U at Tennessee precisely for advocating evolution?

This article gets more dubious by the minute.

^_^J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right after the introduction, this diatribe spends <em>three whole paragraphs</em> for the purpose of denigrating John Randolph Neal, a defense lawyer from the Scopes Trial. Does that smell fishy? Here&#8217;s a bit to chew on and see how much the fishiness goes:</p>
<blockquote><p>Edward Larson describes a law professor who, after being fired, represented Scopes in the 1925 monkey trial.</p></blockquote>
<p>From what I heard, Neal <em>was</em> somewhat excentric and became even more so with time. But the point is, wasn&#8217;t he &#8220;fired&#8221; from his office as a dean from the U at Tennessee precisely for advocating evolution?</p>
<p>This article gets more dubious by the minute.</p>
<p>^_^J.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/02/12/signaling/comment-page-1/#comment-36943</link>
		<dc:creator>Eugene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the diatribe :
&lt;i&gt;Are ties that important?

For men, yes. The tie is important because it’s always been important; its importance makes it important.&lt;/i&gt;
Like math, it&#039;s all about the definitions I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the diatribe :<br />
<i>Are ties that important?</p>
<p>For men, yes. The tie is important because it’s always been important; its importance makes it important.</i><br />
Like math, it&#8217;s all about the definitions I suppose.</p>
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