Comments on: Obama/Biden http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/08/23/obamabiden/ Random samplings from a universe of ideas. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:02:38 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: William Konow http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/08/23/obamabiden/comment-page-1/#comment-42233 William Konow Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:12:59 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/08/23/obamabiden/#comment-42233 Issues that concern me: Energy independence, developement of solar and wind clean coal. To me the democrats supported immorality when they supported the "Gay" agenda. and have lost my vote as a lifelong democrat as a result of that support. I will not vote Republican because it is just as immoral to profit from war and make excessive profit from oil. The democratic party needs to support moral issues as well and not sell out. You cannot call evil good. We need health care, fair wages and since when did the labor union become a dirty word? We need fuel effitient cars NOW. It took me 30 years to get my VA benefits after winning two CUE victories in the federal VA system. No more lip service, the democrats have not solved our energy problems either, so you are just as responsible for our plight. All we ever get is failed promises while you guys play the middle and get persuaded by lobbyists. I hope you get the message! Issues that concern me:
Energy independence, developement of solar and wind clean coal. To me the democrats supported immorality when they supported the “Gay” agenda. and have lost my vote as a lifelong democrat as a result of that support. I will not vote Republican because it is just as immoral to profit from war and make excessive profit from oil. The democratic party needs to support moral issues as well and not sell out. You cannot call evil good. We need health care, fair wages and since when did the labor union become a dirty word? We need fuel effitient cars NOW. It took me 30 years to get my VA benefits after winning two CUE victories in the federal VA system. No more lip service, the democrats have not solved our energy problems either, so you are just as responsible for our plight. All we ever get is failed promises while you guys play the middle and get persuaded by lobbyists. I hope you get the message!

]]> By: Politico Observer http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/08/23/obamabiden/comment-page-1/#comment-42252 Politico Observer Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:31:27 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/08/23/obamabiden/#comment-42252 and before any troll says anything - DUH - yeah I know Kucinich had his name on the ballot too - I'm referring to the MAJOR candidates who stood a chance in the first place. and before any troll says anything – DUH – yeah I know Kucinich had his name on the ballot too – I’m referring to the MAJOR candidates who stood a chance in the first place.

]]> By: Politico Observer http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/08/23/obamabiden/comment-page-1/#comment-42232 Politico Observer Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:30:17 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/08/23/obamabiden/#comment-42232 kurt, What an ASS you are. The only FRAUD that happened with the Dems is Hillary being slick and pushing to have votes counted in TWO states where HER NAME WAS THE ONLY NAME ON THE BALLOT!! What a joke. Despite that, Obama still got 18 mill - she got 18 mill. After trying to run a general election campaign during the primary and going for blood with Obama - personally demeaning and deriding him multiple times while ENDORSING the opposing PARTY'S candidate (!?!?!?!) - she left Obama with NO choice - he had to look in another direction. The job of a president is to "preserve, protect and defend" the constitution, as a constitutional law professor (former president of the Harvard Law Review) he is well able to do that. More importantly, millions agree with his vision. McCain is a war hero. Great. I'm not trying to elect a bellicose war hero with a hair-trigger temperament. I'm electing a president whose judgment and vision I agree with. Elect McCain and you fools DESERVE what you get - wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Iran and God knows where else. Unofrtunately - the real Democrats will have to suffer along with the ride. kurt, What an ASS you are.

The only FRAUD that happened with the Dems is Hillary being slick and pushing to have votes counted in TWO states where HER NAME WAS THE ONLY NAME ON THE BALLOT!!

What a joke.

Despite that, Obama still got 18 mill – she got 18 mill.

After trying to run a general election campaign during the primary and going for blood with Obama – personally demeaning and deriding him multiple times while ENDORSING the opposing PARTY’S candidate (!?!?!?!) – she left Obama with NO choice – he had to look in another direction.

The job of a president is to “preserve, protect and defend” the constitution, as a constitutional law professor (former president of the Harvard Law Review) he is well able to do that.

More importantly, millions agree with his vision.

McCain is a war hero.

Great.

I’m not trying to elect a bellicose war hero with a hair-trigger temperament.

I’m electing a president whose judgment and vision I agree with.

Elect McCain and you fools DESERVE what you get – wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Iran and God knows where else.

Unofrtunately – the real Democrats will have to suffer along with the ride.

]]> By: lars siler http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/08/23/obamabiden/comment-page-1/#comment-42251 lars siler Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:18:50 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/08/23/obamabiden/#comment-42251 We need a state -by-state voting systems report; I just know these bastards are up to something other than their traditional slander and division. kind of like Fox News harping about this ayers dude everyday;Obama was 8 years old-like noone ever got fragged in Nam and George Bush wasn't rotten enough-now these Fascists are playing this angry Hilary angle to try to disrupt the DNC agenda-lots of Hillary's so called independants were disenchanted Republicans not Democrats-they don't care if children go to war-their agenda was simply feminist so they want to use this so-called Hilary diss to go back bitterly to their greedy values,never Democratic values.Obama perseveres through all the fear and lies they mouth,1/2 truths;incomplete sentances,Hannityzed lies-they live on venom in the interest of money and selection ,unless they are defeated American society heads more chaotic SOLDIERS FOR OBAMA DEFEAT THE EVIL , We need a state -by-state voting systems report; I just know these bastards are up to something other than their traditional slander and division. kind of like Fox News harping about this ayers dude everyday;Obama was 8 years old-like noone ever got fragged in Nam and George Bush wasn’t rotten enough-now these Fascists are playing this angry Hilary angle to try to disrupt the DNC agenda-lots of Hillary’s so called independants were disenchanted Republicans not Democrats-they don’t care if children go to war-their agenda was simply feminist so they want to use this so-called Hilary diss to go back bitterly to their greedy values,never Democratic values.Obama perseveres through all the fear and lies they mouth,1/2 truths;incomplete sentances,Hannityzed lies-they live on venom in the interest of money and selection ,unless they are defeated American society heads more chaotic SOLDIERS FOR OBAMA DEFEAT THE EVIL
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]]> By: jessica http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/08/23/obamabiden/comment-page-1/#comment-42250 jessica Tue, 26 Aug 2008 05:14:58 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/08/23/obamabiden/#comment-42250 What can I say about Obama's choice. Let us keep in mind that anybody he chose would have been a person who has been in the political system for quite sometime. So to imply that he won't command change because his VP isn't a valid representation of change is crazy. Let us be honest, Obama has very little foreign policy experience, and that really is the only thing that has kicked this man in the head over and over. So of course, he was going to pick Biden. What other option did he have? Hillary would have been the best choice, if she would not have been so down right dirty in her attacks on his campaign. She was just ruthless, and I, myself just did not like her after this year. I just don't know what to say about her. She called his constituents stupid, for even standing up and saying we wanted change and HOPE. We are supposed to be the country that believes in hope. And yet every chance we get That is why America stands. That is why our country is a melting pot. It is not perfect. It is going to take time, I am hoping not a whole lot of time, because we, as Americans don't have time. Our economic basis is shrinking, our money is shrinking in value, and truth be told, I don't think we could survive another 4 years of Republicans. I was amazed that they got the last 4 years, but I digress. Bush's past 8 years have put us in such a whole, I cannot even fathom how any President can bounce back from this. So, even as I hope and pray that Obama-Biden wins in November, I also hope and pray, that our politicians realize the urgency in unification, and just get on board. All this distension in amongst the parties and within the parties, needs to stop. Because with all of our hope, they are the ones who govern, control, and need to fix these problems. All we can do is rant, rave, and every now and again riot. What can I say about Obama’s choice. Let us keep in mind that anybody he chose would have been a person who has been in the political system for quite sometime. So to imply that he won’t command change because his VP isn’t a valid representation of change is crazy. Let us be honest, Obama has very little foreign policy experience, and that really is the only thing that has kicked this man in the head over and over. So of course, he was going to pick Biden. What other option did he have? Hillary would have been the best choice, if she would not have been so down right dirty in her attacks on his campaign. She was just ruthless, and I, myself just did not like her after this year. I just don’t know what to say about her. She called his constituents stupid, for even standing up and saying we wanted change and HOPE. We are supposed to be the country that believes in hope. And yet every chance we get That is why America stands. That is why our country is a melting pot. It is not perfect. It is going to take time, I am hoping not a whole lot of time, because we, as Americans don’t have time. Our economic basis is shrinking, our money is shrinking in value, and truth be told, I don’t think we could survive another 4 years of Republicans. I was amazed that they got the last 4 years, but I digress. Bush’s past 8 years have put us in such a whole, I cannot even fathom how any President can bounce back from this. So, even as I hope and pray that Obama-Biden wins in November, I also hope and pray, that our politicians realize the urgency in unification, and just get on board. All this distension in amongst the parties and within the parties, needs to stop. Because with all of our hope, they are the ones who govern, control, and need to fix these problems. All we can do is rant, rave, and every now and again riot.

]]> By: Elliot http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/08/23/obamabiden/comment-page-1/#comment-42228 Elliot Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:42:32 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/08/23/obamabiden/#comment-42228 New McCain campaign Slogan: "Mansion Accomplished" e. New McCain campaign Slogan: “Mansion Accomplished”

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]]> By: jim turner http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/08/23/obamabiden/comment-page-1/#comment-42229 jim turner Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:22:50 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/08/23/obamabiden/#comment-42229 Obama-Biden sounds too much like Osama bin Laden to me. Obama bin Biden?....freaky Obama-Biden sounds too much like Osama bin Laden to me. Obama bin Biden?….freaky

]]> By: Kade Ellis http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/08/23/obamabiden/comment-page-1/#comment-42231 Kade Ellis Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:22:07 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/08/23/obamabiden/#comment-42231 Dear Fellow Obama Supporters, Campaign for Obama wherever you go! At www.progressiverags.com we have a wide selection of Obama shirts, buttons and hats designed for any occasion. From Baby Onsies for infants, to 6X Tall & Big Shirts, to Womens Tank Tops and Spaghetti Stap shirts, we have a design and style for everyone who wants to join Obama's grassroots campaign for change! These are not the "Official" campaign shirts and I am not a paid staffer, I am a longtime progressive activist who is actively supporting Obama's campaign in South Florida and in January of this year I set up this web page to help support building a progressive grassroots movement to change America. This electon has seen more people of color and young people getting involved in this unique national campaign. Today we have a chance to make change not only in the Presidency but also in many congressional and state legislative offices. Wearing Obama shirts and hats will help to build the enthusiasm from the many people that we are encourageing to register and vote. By wearing them we can all become billboards for a future with grassroots empowerment! As a result of this wider perspective www.progressiverags.com also has a number of shirts that support the broader struggles for peace and justice beyond the electoral arena, like our feminist t-shirts and our shirt commemorating the " Black Power" salute by Tommie Smith & John Carlos at the 1968 Olympics. Being activists we realize the importance of fund raising for any grassroots organizing. With this in mind we offer generous discounts on quantity purchases and are we able to design shirts for local political campaigns as well as grassroots Obama support groups. We can offer shirts in large quantities for as low as $4 each. If you are interested in wholesale pricing for your organization or business please call me at 305-582-4846. We are adding new Obama Shirts, buttons and hats to our site regularly along with other progressive gear so please bookmark our site on your browser. If you have any questions please email me at 305-582-4386 or email sales@progressiverags.com. Last but not least I would like to offer you a special introductory discount for taking the time out to read this letter and visiting our store. Just put in the coupon code Victory08 and recieve a 20% discount on your order! Best Regards Jack Lieberman www.progressiverags.com Dear Fellow Obama Supporters,

Campaign for Obama wherever you go! At http://www.progressiverags.com we have a wide selection of Obama shirts, buttons and hats designed for any occasion. From Baby Onsies for infants, to 6X Tall & Big Shirts, to Womens Tank Tops and Spaghetti Stap shirts, we have a design and style for everyone who wants to join Obama’s grassroots campaign for change!

These are not the “Official” campaign shirts and I am not a paid staffer, I am a longtime progressive activist who is actively supporting Obama’s campaign in South Florida and in January of this year I set up this web page to help support building a progressive grassroots movement to change America.

This electon has seen more people of color and young people getting involved in this unique national campaign. Today we have a chance to make change not only in the Presidency but also in many congressional and state legislative offices. Wearing Obama shirts and hats will help to build the enthusiasm from the many people that we are encourageing to register and vote. By wearing them we can all become billboards for a future with grassroots empowerment!

As a result of this wider perspective http://www.progressiverags.com also has a number of shirts that support the broader struggles for peace and justice beyond the electoral arena, like our feminist t-shirts and our shirt commemorating the ” Black Power” salute by Tommie Smith & John Carlos at the 1968 Olympics.

Being activists we realize the importance of fund raising for any grassroots organizing. With this in mind we offer generous discounts on quantity purchases and are we able to design shirts for local political campaigns as well as grassroots Obama support groups. We can offer shirts in large quantities for as low as $4 each. If you are interested in wholesale pricing for your organization or business please call me at 305-582-4846.

We are adding new Obama Shirts, buttons and hats to our site regularly along with other progressive gear so please bookmark our site on your browser.

If you have any questions please email me at 305-582-4386 or email sales@progressiverags.com.

Last but not least I would like to offer you a special introductory discount for taking the time out to read this letter and visiting our store. Just put in the coupon code Victory08 and recieve a 20% discount on your order!

Best Regards
Jack Lieberman
http://www.progressiverags.com

]]> By: Kim http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/08/23/obamabiden/comment-page-1/#comment-42216 Kim Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:09:53 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/08/23/obamabiden/#comment-42216 You people really don't know what you're talking about. If you look at Obama's corporate relationships, you shouldn't expect a great deal of change, change, change. An Obama administration will be much like Bill Clinton's. He'll be better than Bush, but don't expect a government that is radically different from what we have now. We'll get our army out of Iraq - eventually. But we won't give up on our 60-year project of trying the entire planet. A few more children and low-income folks will get health insurance, but we won't get the unversal coverage common throughout the rest of the industrialized world. Everyone expecting big change should start lowering your expectations now to reduce your disappointment later. You people really don’t know what you’re talking about. If you look at Obama’s corporate relationships, you shouldn’t expect a great deal of change, change, change. An Obama administration will be much like Bill Clinton’s. He’ll be better than Bush, but don’t expect a government that is radically different from what we have now.

We’ll get our army out of Iraq – eventually. But we won’t give up on our 60-year project of trying the entire planet. A few more children and low-income folks will get health insurance, but we won’t get the unversal coverage common throughout the rest of the industrialized world.

Everyone expecting big change should start lowering your expectations now to reduce your disappointment later.

]]> By: disappointed http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/08/23/obamabiden/comment-page-1/#comment-42227 disappointed Mon, 25 Aug 2008 00:17:03 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/08/23/obamabiden/#comment-42227 My husband and I would have been so happy if he had chosen Sebelius, too. Hillary would have been a smart choice also. Like Obama, Sebelius is an inspiring figure, but in a very different way. Effective, smart, down to earth and with real integrity. I think Obama should have chosen her and played to his strengths - real change, visionary leadership - rather than his weaknesses as he is doing with Biden. My husband and I would have been so happy if he had chosen Sebelius, too. Hillary would have been a smart choice also.

Like Obama, Sebelius is an inspiring figure, but in a very different way. Effective, smart, down to earth and with real integrity. I think Obama should have chosen her and played to his strengths – real change, visionary leadership – rather than his weaknesses as he is doing with Biden.

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