unfortunately, then the rest of hte thread happened

If Obama gets in ? Dang maybe she`s right .

Fundamentalism is based on certain erroneous assumptions about the Bible and the world…
a) Every word is directed to the 21st century Western Christian reader
b) Every verse in Genesis is a literal scientific observation (but don’t worry about imagery such as Ezekiel, Joel, Daniel, Revelation)
c) The 21st century Western Christian lay reader is able to interpret the Bible infallibly by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit
d) There’s a lot to be afraid of in the big bad non Christian world, just keep buying Joel Osteen books and you’ll be OK
e) Fill your soul with junk from the Christian subculture… don’t question anything or be TOO honest

Perhaps in the coming decades people will discard their idiotic religious trappings altogether. I hope that the church evolves away from its monolithic soul-crushing religion, into a more homespun, humble, genuine, engaged, and spiritual faith.

Atheism suggests that the best morals are those which usefully uphold the values dear to one’s self.

And this is why atheism will never be dominant. There will always be humans who believe that some values are, or should be, universal – even at the expense of themselves.

I think, though, that we’re on the cusp of an enormous social revolution, one in which atheism is the trait that social pressures will select for. Monotheism posits some universal observer who knows all things. In atheism, there is a much bigger incentive to see things for ourselves, because there is nobody else to see them if we don’t. Monotheism posits a downward projection of morality, determined arbitrarily before humanity began. Atheism suggests that the best morals are those which usefully uphold the values dear to one’s self.

As a social trait, atheism is infinitely more curious and flexible than monotheism.

The FACT is the vast majority of people on this planet believe in spirituality and God. That is all I am saying.

In fact I think the vast majority of people on this planet believe that the earth is at the center of the universe, and a large portion believe that the positioning of heavenly bodies directly impacts their lives. Unfortunately the universe is not amenable to majority rule. Though somewhere in the multiverse you might be able to find and environment where the laws of nature change based on popular demand!

The Lord is my shephard;
I shall not want.
He make my ballot name shine forth
He leads me besides electronic bliss.
He restores my campaign,
He leads me in the paths of
electoral victory
for His name sake

Yea, though I walk through the valley
of the shadow of Democrats
I will fear no Obama,
for Diebold is with me.
Your vote switching black boxes,
they comfort me.

We are getting lots of strange stuff about white voter’s last minute reluctance and the like. This stuff about God’s intervention is maybe meant to placate true believers enough so they ignore the blatant election fraud, and FOXNEWS will obviously focus in on voter reluctance. The rest of us will be told to shut up, a’la O’Reilly.

Lawrence B. Crowell

I can only hope that PBS returns to her home on election night so we can all watch as she realizes that, oops, the Lord let her down – and that, despite her objections, we do indeed have a “President O-ba-ma.”

I think your key mistake about atheists (and I am one) is captured in your comment:

“There are many laws to which you abide, foremost that there is not and cannot be a god.”

The “cannot” belongs to religion, not atheism. Atheists (as far we can be regarded as group – I personally don’t go any meetings or ceremonies…) do not have any “faith” in the non-existance of god, instead we just make up our minds as best we can using the available evidence and the tools of reasoning that seem to have worked over the years.

There could well still be be a god, but he/she/it would have a lot to answer for (especially if Palin gets elected..)