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		<title>By: spyder</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/11/04/fired-up-ready-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-45396</link>
		<dc:creator>spyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agonizing because we vote by mail, and i have been waiting a week for the process to run its course.  Total and complete relief; even though i know the hard work is only just beginning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agonizing because we vote by mail, and i have been waiting a week for the process to run its course.  Total and complete relief; even though i know the hard work is only just beginning.</p>
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		<title>By: Serge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Serge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 21:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesusland&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jesusland and United States of Canada&lt;/a&gt; again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesusland" rel="nofollow">Jesusland and United States of Canada</a> again.</p>
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		<title>By: tacitus</title>
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		<dc:creator>tacitus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D&#039;oh!  I should learn to read more than half a post before commenting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D&#8217;oh!  I should learn to read more than half a post before commenting.</p>
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		<title>By: Sili</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sili</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The poor guy has aged fast lately.

I really like that picture. I honestly cannot see McCain stooping like that.</description>
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<p>I really like that picture. I honestly cannot see McCain stooping like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As mentioned, the map is not a prediction.</description>
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		<title>By: Allyson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/11/04/fired-up-ready-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-45411</link>
		<dc:creator>Allyson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Los Feliz, CA and about a two hour wait. A young woman at the coffee bean (why yes, I did get a latte and I am a liberal) was just about jumping out of her skin about voting for the first time.

I can&#039;t believe I&#039;m at work! I want to go home and watch the election show on CNN and fret about Prop 8.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Los Feliz, CA and about a two hour wait. A young woman at the coffee bean (why yes, I did get a latte and I am a liberal) was just about jumping out of her skin about voting for the first time.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe I&#8217;m at work! I want to go home and watch the election show on CNN and fret about Prop 8.</p>
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		<title>By: tacitus</title>
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		<dc:creator>tacitus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, Sean, you must have been channeling that innate Democratic pessimism when you put together that map.  You have Pennsylvania, Nevada, Virginia, and Colorado as toss-up states and yet almost all the polls have Obama leading those states at or above the margin of error.   Meanwhile you have Georgia, Arizona, Montana, North Carolina, and North Dakota as locks for McCain, yet their polls are all as tight, if not tighter than those above you put in the toss up column.

I don&#039;t blame you, at all, after the last two elections, but even Karl Rove produced a more favorable map for Obama!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, Sean, you must have been channeling that innate Democratic pessimism when you put together that map.  You have Pennsylvania, Nevada, Virginia, and Colorado as toss-up states and yet almost all the polls have Obama leading those states at or above the margin of error.   Meanwhile you have Georgia, Arizona, Montana, North Carolina, and North Dakota as locks for McCain, yet their polls are all as tight, if not tighter than those above you put in the toss up column.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t blame you, at all, after the last two elections, but even Karl Rove produced a more favorable map for Obama!</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neil B - agreed wholeheartedly.  We need an absolutely tamper proof system if we move to electronic voting of any kind.  Electronic fraud can swing large numbers of votes with little effort.  That being said,  extremely committed supporters can easily cross state lines, submit fraudulent absentee ballots, and generally perpetrate fraud pretty easily.

Clearly machines require less effort, but I submit that in the end it is actually more easily combated.  One or two whistle blowers and the whole house of cards comes tumbling down.  Diebold is already taking heat - although I have no idea why they even exist today.  They should have been sued into oblivion just for equipment malfunctions alone, let alone malfeseance.

Distributed, &quot;Army of Davids&quot; style fraud however is much more difficult to police.  Compare the resources of a one class-action lawsuit against Diebold, Sequoia, etc. versus 10,000 individual, criminal lawsuits.  The later also affords more deniability for the political parties.

Both are already happening right now in this election and it completely sickens me.  At this point every ballot should be done on paper and the voter should be given a paper receipt.

A few links to get you fired up (as fraud of any color should):

Machines in Philly switching Obama votes - http://blogs.independent.co.uk/openhouse/2008/10/the-vote-grab-1.html

Military folks don&#039;t get enough time to cast their ballots legally because VA didn&#039;t mail them soon enough - http://hamptonroads.com/print/486648

Just total crazy time in Philly - Repub. monitors tossed because they weren&#039;t the people on the pre-established list - now it&#039;s in court - http://townhall.com/blog/g/cf47766b-5a6d-44ab-95e7-ce60631bcadc

Street Money - legally paying people to vote?  Total BS and both sides do it - http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/blogs/fortyfourthestate/show_comments.php?entry_id=3481

Woman from NY illegally voting in FL - idiot blogged and took pictures of it - http://wthrockmorton.com/2008/11/02/hey-florida-is-this-ok-with-you/

More machine problems in Philly - http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/politics/18002279.html

At least our local paper the Cincinnati Enquirer has a fantastic website that let&#039;s voters post problems out to a public area.  http://dunes.cincinnati.com/data/election/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neil B &#8211; agreed wholeheartedly.  We need an absolutely tamper proof system if we move to electronic voting of any kind.  Electronic fraud can swing large numbers of votes with little effort.  That being said,  extremely committed supporters can easily cross state lines, submit fraudulent absentee ballots, and generally perpetrate fraud pretty easily.</p>
<p>Clearly machines require less effort, but I submit that in the end it is actually more easily combated.  One or two whistle blowers and the whole house of cards comes tumbling down.  Diebold is already taking heat &#8211; although I have no idea why they even exist today.  They should have been sued into oblivion just for equipment malfunctions alone, let alone malfeseance.</p>
<p>Distributed, &#8220;Army of Davids&#8221; style fraud however is much more difficult to police.  Compare the resources of a one class-action lawsuit against Diebold, Sequoia, etc. versus 10,000 individual, criminal lawsuits.  The later also affords more deniability for the political parties.</p>
<p>Both are already happening right now in this election and it completely sickens me.  At this point every ballot should be done on paper and the voter should be given a paper receipt.</p>
<p>A few links to get you fired up (as fraud of any color should):</p>
<p>Machines in Philly switching Obama votes &#8211; <a href="http://blogs.independent.co.uk/openhouse/2008/10/the-vote-grab-1.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.independent.co.uk/openhouse/2008/10/the-vote-grab-1.html</a></p>
<p>Military folks don&#8217;t get enough time to cast their ballots legally because VA didn&#8217;t mail them soon enough &#8211; <a href="http://hamptonroads.com/print/486648" rel="nofollow">http://hamptonroads.com/print/486648</a></p>
<p>Just total crazy time in Philly &#8211; Repub. monitors tossed because they weren&#8217;t the people on the pre-established list &#8211; now it&#8217;s in court &#8211; <a href="http://townhall.com/blog/g/cf47766b-5a6d-44ab-95e7-ce60631bcadc" rel="nofollow">http://townhall.com/blog/g/cf47766b-5a6d-44ab-95e7-ce60631bcadc</a></p>
<p>Street Money &#8211; legally paying people to vote?  Total BS and both sides do it &#8211; <a href="http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/blogs/fortyfourthestate/show_comments.php?entry_id=3481" rel="nofollow">http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/blogs/fortyfourthestate/show_comments.php?entry_id=3481</a></p>
<p>Woman from NY illegally voting in FL &#8211; idiot blogged and took pictures of it &#8211; <a href="http://wthrockmorton.com/2008/11/02/hey-florida-is-this-ok-with-you/" rel="nofollow">http://wthrockmorton.com/2008/11/02/hey-florida-is-this-ok-with-you/</a></p>
<p>More machine problems in Philly &#8211; <a href="http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/politics/18002279.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/politics/18002279.html</a></p>
<p>At least our local paper the Cincinnati Enquirer has a fantastic website that let&#8217;s voters post problems out to a public area.  <a href="http://dunes.cincinnati.com/data/election/" rel="nofollow">http://dunes.cincinnati.com/data/election/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Costanza</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/11/04/fired-up-ready-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-45398</link>
		<dc:creator>Costanza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>another nifty polling site is Pollster.com</description>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/11/04/fired-up-ready-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-45399</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding &quot;nationalizing the means of production&quot;, etc.: The Republicans have made it clear to the nation that Obama is advocating socialism. So if Obama wins today, that means that the American will have chosen socialism. I hope Obama gets started by implementing &quot;socialized medicine&quot;, which would be supported by 60% - 65% of the population.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding &#8220;nationalizing the means of production&#8221;, etc.: The Republicans have made it clear to the nation that Obama is advocating socialism. So if Obama wins today, that means that the American will have chosen socialism. I hope Obama gets started by implementing &#8220;socialized medicine&#8221;, which would be supported by 60% &#8211; 65% of the population.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil B. ?</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/11/04/fired-up-ready-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-45406</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil B. ?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin, you have a point. However, it is known from recent experience (such as OH in 2004) that Republicans have been behind the worst of *recent* voter fraud/intimidation. (BTW, check electoral map for 1960 and confirm that JFK still would have won even with loss of Illinois.) What is especially disturbing, the owners of Diebold are known Republican activists and have made suspicious statements about supporting the Republican ticket, etc.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0828-08.htm

Voting Machine Controversy

by Julie Carr Smyth


COLUMBUS - The head of a company vying to sell voting machines in Ohio told Republicans in a recent fund-raising letter that he is &quot;committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year.&quot;

The Aug. 14 letter from Walden O&#039;Dell, chief executive of Diebold Inc. - who has become active in the re-election effort of President Bush - prompted Democrats this week to question the propriety of allowing O&#039;Dell&#039;s company to calculate votes in the 2004 presidential election.

O&#039;Dell attended a strategy pow-wow with wealthy Bush benefactors - known as Rangers and Pioneers - at the president&#039;s Crawford, Texas, ranch earlier this month. The next week, he penned invitations to a $1,000-a-plate fund-raiser to benefit the Ohio Republican Party&#039;s federal campaign fund - partially benefiting Bush - at his mansion in the Columbus suburb of Upper Arlington.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin, you have a point. However, it is known from recent experience (such as OH in 2004) that Republicans have been behind the worst of *recent* voter fraud/intimidation. (BTW, check electoral map for 1960 and confirm that JFK still would have won even with loss of Illinois.) What is especially disturbing, the owners of Diebold are known Republican activists and have made suspicious statements about supporting the Republican ticket, etc.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0828-08.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0828-08.htm</a></p>
<p>Voting Machine Controversy</p>
<p>by Julie Carr Smyth</p>
<p>COLUMBUS &#8211; The head of a company vying to sell voting machines in Ohio told Republicans in a recent fund-raising letter that he is &#8220;committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Aug. 14 letter from Walden O&#8217;Dell, chief executive of Diebold Inc. &#8211; who has become active in the re-election effort of President Bush &#8211; prompted Democrats this week to question the propriety of allowing O&#8217;Dell&#8217;s company to calculate votes in the 2004 presidential election.</p>
<p>O&#8217;Dell attended a strategy pow-wow with wealthy Bush benefactors &#8211; known as Rangers and Pioneers &#8211; at the president&#8217;s Crawford, Texas, ranch earlier this month. The next week, he penned invitations to a $1,000-a-plate fund-raiser to benefit the Ohio Republican Party&#8217;s federal campaign fund &#8211; partially benefiting Bush &#8211; at his mansion in the Columbus suburb of Upper Arlington.<br />
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/11/04/fired-up-ready-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-45408</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frequent reader, first time commenter.  I find it disheartening that it seems everyone is concerned about &quot;evil Republican&quot; voter fraud.  I live in Ohio, specifically Cincinnati, and I must tell you I have seen Democrats pull the same kind of crap with my own two eyes.  No matter what the party, fraud is evil and must be quashed.

If you can&#039;t admin that both sides cheat then you are not thinking critically.  Both parties stand to gain from cheating and the process of monitoring and addressing issues of fraud are ridiculous.  Right now there are tons of examples across the web of folks registering and voting in states they are not residents in, Diebold machines not working properly, all sorts of crap.  They are all equally guilty.

Repeat after me - there is &lt;strong&gt;no such thing&lt;/strong&gt; as an honest politician.  They will all cheat if given the opportunity and deniability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frequent reader, first time commenter.  I find it disheartening that it seems everyone is concerned about &#8220;evil Republican&#8221; voter fraud.  I live in Ohio, specifically Cincinnati, and I must tell you I have seen Democrats pull the same kind of crap with my own two eyes.  No matter what the party, fraud is evil and must be quashed.</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t admin that both sides cheat then you are not thinking critically.  Both parties stand to gain from cheating and the process of monitoring and addressing issues of fraud are ridiculous.  Right now there are tons of examples across the web of folks registering and voting in states they are not residents in, Diebold machines not working properly, all sorts of crap.  They are all equally guilty.</p>
<p>Repeat after me &#8211; there is <strong>no such thing</strong> as an honest politician.  They will all cheat if given the opportunity and deniability.</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.fivethirtyeight.com suggests that Pennsylvania is pretty much a lock for Obama. Given that, if Obama picks up both Ohio and Florida and then either Virginia or North Carolina, he&#039;ll have already won.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.fivethirtyeight.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.fivethirtyeight.com</a> suggests that Pennsylvania is pretty much a lock for Obama. Given that, if Obama picks up both Ohio and Florida and then either Virginia or North Carolina, he&#8217;ll have already won.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil B. ?</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/11/04/fired-up-ready-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-45405</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil B. ?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reporting in from VA, ZIP 236** areas (SE). No long line for me or other issues in midtown Newport News. We ink in circles on sheets, which are fed into a reader. (Heh, there&#039;s a write in space and circle, but since they&#039;d get no Electors, what does it do?)

However, disturbing reports heard already about machines (Diebold!) failing and backup paper balloting required in some regions, which curiously happen to be black sections of town. Also, a woman voting in Grissom Library reported that when she fed her sheet into such a machine, it sucked in but the *counter* didn&#039;t turn over. She told an election official, that means the vote wasn&#039;t counted. The official claimed, yes it was because the machine took in the sheet! (wrong) The local Obama campaign has reported this.  Folks: there is no excuse for simply placing out trust in the hands of mfrs of these machines. If the vote goes really far from what polling predicts, I will think the vote was scammed.  I also think intelligent people should have the guts to say so and proceed accordingly.

In VA there&#039;s a law forbidding wearing campaign buttons/clothes etc. into the polls. A big-bellied fellow went to my precinct room wearing a Ron Paul tee. They insisted he take it off or turn it inside out (what most people do.) He said, I&#039;ll show them, and took off the shirt and then voted bare-chested. They let him do that, at least! I talked to him later, and wish I had a pic of him voting like that!

BTW there were three city policemen hanging around right outside the doors, I wonder why someone thinks we need that much protection from voters or challengers around there. Also, flags half mast at library I voted, who died or what else? I can&#039;t imagine they&#039;d do it for Obama&#039;s grandma, but if so a nice gesture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reporting in from VA, ZIP 236** areas (SE). No long line for me or other issues in midtown Newport News. We ink in circles on sheets, which are fed into a reader. (Heh, there&#8217;s a write in space and circle, but since they&#8217;d get no Electors, what does it do?)</p>
<p>However, disturbing reports heard already about machines (Diebold!) failing and backup paper balloting required in some regions, which curiously happen to be black sections of town. Also, a woman voting in Grissom Library reported that when she fed her sheet into such a machine, it sucked in but the *counter* didn&#8217;t turn over. She told an election official, that means the vote wasn&#8217;t counted. The official claimed, yes it was because the machine took in the sheet! (wrong) The local Obama campaign has reported this.  Folks: there is no excuse for simply placing out trust in the hands of mfrs of these machines. If the vote goes really far from what polling predicts, I will think the vote was scammed.  I also think intelligent people should have the guts to say so and proceed accordingly.</p>
<p>In VA there&#8217;s a law forbidding wearing campaign buttons/clothes etc. into the polls. A big-bellied fellow went to my precinct room wearing a Ron Paul tee. They insisted he take it off or turn it inside out (what most people do.) He said, I&#8217;ll show them, and took off the shirt and then voted bare-chested. They let him do that, at least! I talked to him later, and wish I had a pic of him voting like that!</p>
<p>BTW there were three city policemen hanging around right outside the doors, I wonder why someone thinks we need that much protection from voters or challengers around there. Also, flags half mast at library I voted, who died or what else? I can&#8217;t imagine they&#8217;d do it for Obama&#8217;s grandma, but if so a nice gesture.</p>
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		<title>By: beke</title>
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		<dc:creator>beke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah California, NJ, Mass (with both senators endorsing obama) + others were supposed to go to obama in the primaries but they did not!!
all the polls are wrong. the polls ALWAYS lean democratic. obama youth vote will not come out to save him. mccain will win ohio, virginia, florida and colorado
many people i know on the ground know that PA will go to mccain.
this election (thanks to obama) is about integrity, honesty and loyalty not issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah California, NJ, Mass (with both senators endorsing obama) + others were supposed to go to obama in the primaries but they did not!!<br />
all the polls are wrong. the polls ALWAYS lean democratic. obama youth vote will not come out to save him. mccain will win ohio, virginia, florida and colorado<br />
many people i know on the ground know that PA will go to mccain.<br />
this election (thanks to obama) is about integrity, honesty and loyalty not issues.</p>
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		<title>By: CosmicVarianceFan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/11/04/fired-up-ready-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-45403</link>
		<dc:creator>CosmicVarianceFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The thing could be over early for us Left Coasters.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That may be true, but you Left Coasters still have the luxury of watching sports events at earlier times in the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The thing could be over early for us Left Coasters.</p></blockquote>
<p>That may be true, but you Left Coasters still have the luxury of watching sports events at earlier times in the day.</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence B. Crowell</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/11/04/fired-up-ready-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-45402</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawrence B. Crowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given all indicators it looks positive for Obama.  The only open question is something analogous to dark matter, dark photons and ghost particles: will Diebold and ES&amp;L throw the election by stealthy software changes?

While MJN can&#039;t vote in this election it is interesting to see how the world would vote if it could:

http://www.iftheworldcouldvote.com/blogs

1/20/09, if the cards are honest we might start to work our way out of this hole we have dug ourselves into over the last eight years.

Lawrence B. Crowell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given all indicators it looks positive for Obama.  The only open question is something analogous to dark matter, dark photons and ghost particles: will Diebold and ES&amp;L throw the election by stealthy software changes?</p>
<p>While MJN can&#8217;t vote in this election it is interesting to see how the world would vote if it could:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.iftheworldcouldvote.com/blogs" rel="nofollow">http://www.iftheworldcouldvote.com/blogs</a></p>
<p>1/20/09, if the cards are honest we might start to work our way out of this hole we have dug ourselves into over the last eight years.</p>
<p>Lawrence B. Crowell</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Lugo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/11/04/fired-up-ready-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-45401</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Lugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, every *two* years we have the Olympics, and every *two* years we have an election.

But I think by now the Winter Olympics and the midterm elections are used to being forgotten.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, every *two* years we have the Olympics, and every *two* years we have an election.</p>
<p>But I think by now the Winter Olympics and the midterm elections are used to being forgotten.</p>
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		<title>By: mjn</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/11/04/fired-up-ready-to-go/comment-page-1/#comment-45400</link>
		<dc:creator>mjn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 10:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It may very well be that they both make good TV, but at least in the Olympics we have some participation. As a non-American not even living in the US I am at this point seriously tired of the endless reports on TV from an election I cannot even vote in. I don&#039;t think even &lt;em&gt;our&lt;/em&gt; elections get this much coverage in &lt;em&gt;our&lt;/em&gt; networks. I am glad it&#039;s over soon.

And if you start making the same fuss as in 2000 after the vote, American politics should be banned globally from TV for at least a decade!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may very well be that they both make good TV, but at least in the Olympics we have some participation. As a non-American not even living in the US I am at this point seriously tired of the endless reports on TV from an election I cannot even vote in. I don&#8217;t think even <em>our</em> elections get this much coverage in <em>our</em> networks. I am glad it&#8217;s over soon.</p>
<p>And if you start making the same fuss as in 2000 after the vote, American politics should be banned globally from TV for at least a decade!</p>
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