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		<title>By: Neil B</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/11/14/hey-nasa-listen-up/comment-page-1/#comment-48124</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just for the record and to clarify: the topic cartoon was about astronauts who landed on the Moon, but I made a segue into the issue of minority astronauts in general.  As for returning to the Moon: I don&#039;t think it is worth spending all that money for that or for going to Mars - in the foreseeable future, given all the troubles we are having now.  Just maybe, if it was a full international effort it could be worth it for the cooperative benefits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for the record and to clarify: the topic cartoon was about astronauts who landed on the Moon, but I made a segue into the issue of minority astronauts in general.  As for returning to the Moon: I don&#8217;t think it is worth spending all that money for that or for going to Mars &#8211; in the foreseeable future, given all the troubles we are having now.  Just maybe, if it was a full international effort it could be worth it for the cooperative benefits.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidMcMahon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/11/14/hey-nasa-listen-up/comment-page-1/#comment-47576</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidMcMahon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 16:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the start anyway, they got all their astronauts from fighter pilots. Of course in those days they were all men. I think Harrison Schmidt (a geologist) was the first non-military person and scientist sent on a space mission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the start anyway, they got all their astronauts from fighter pilots. Of course in those days they were all men. I think Harrison Schmidt (a geologist) was the first non-military person and scientist sent on a space mission.</p>
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		<title>By: mk</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/11/14/hey-nasa-listen-up/comment-page-1/#comment-47553</link>
		<dc:creator>mk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 14:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies, Julianne.

For a second I thought I was at Bad Astronomy!  ;^}</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies, Julianne.</p>
<p>For a second I thought I was at Bad Astronomy!  ;^}</p>
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		<title>By: Yvette</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/11/14/hey-nasa-listen-up/comment-page-1/#comment-47384</link>
		<dc:creator>Yvette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 05:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want that shirt.  That is all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want that shirt.  That is all.</p>
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		<title>By: Julianne</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/11/14/hey-nasa-listen-up/comment-page-1/#comment-47340</link>
		<dc:creator>Julianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 03:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, it&#039;s a cartoon about dinosaurs.  Not to be confused with official CV policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, it&#8217;s a cartoon about dinosaurs.  Not to be confused with official CV policy.</p>
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		<title>By: mk</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/11/14/hey-nasa-listen-up/comment-page-1/#comment-47329</link>
		<dc:creator>mk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 02:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now &lt;I&gt;that&#039;s&lt;/I&gt; the best reason yet for going back to the moon! Because women have never been there! 

Heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now <i>that&#8217;s</i> the best reason yet for going back to the moon! Because women have never been there! </p>
<p>Heh.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil B</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/11/14/hey-nasa-listen-up/comment-page-1/#comment-47251</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 21:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, women were just not taken seriously in the 60s.  (And BTW, the &quot;Movement&quot; that was pushing for more civil rights, ecology, anti-war etc. had many leaders also contemptuous of women taking big strides.  Look up the history.)  I don&#039;t know when the first Asian made it.  However, a black astronaut was picked way back on June 30, 1967!  Sadly few of the general public know of him.  That is partly because he died in a training flight and never went up. Check this out, but I think there is an error (Bluford was the first &lt;i&gt;black American&lt;/i&gt; up, but a Cuban went before him - see below):

http://www.infoplease.com/spot/bhmfirsts.html

&lt;i&gt;First astronaut:
Robert H. Lawrence, Jr., 1967, was the first black astronaut, but he died in a plane crash during a training flight and never made it into space. Guion Bluford, 1983, became the first black astronaut to travel in space; Mae Jemison, 1992, became the first black female astronaut. Frederick D. Gregory, 1998, was the first African-American shuttle commander.&lt;/i&gt;

But here&#039;s a better rundown from a board, at http://www.funtrivia.com/askft/Question86253.html:

&lt;i&gt;
cag1970

	Let&#039;s straighten this out:

Captain Edward Dwight (USAF) was the first black person to train as an astronaut. He trained from 1962 to 1966, but was never designated to a specific program. He&#039;s made his living as an artist and monument sculptor since then.

Major Robert H. Lawrence (USAF) was the first black person to be assigned to a specific space program--specifically, the Air Force&#039;s Manned Orbital Laboratory program (successor to the X-20 program).

Arnaldo Tamayo Méndez (Cuba) was the first person of African ancestory AND the first Hispanic speaker to travel in space. He flew with Yuri Romanenko on Soyuz 38 September 18-26, 1980.

As a matter of course, neither Dwight nor Lawrence qualify as astronauts, under the definitions of the FAI, NASA or the US military. Dwight and Lawrence were, more correctly, astronaut-candidates. Tamayo Méndez is considered a cosmonaut, techincally, because he traveled on board a Soviet spacecraft. But his flight into space predated Bluford&#039;s journey on board STS-8 by almost three years.

http://www.thehistorymakers.com/biography/biography.asp?bioindex=157

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnaldo_Tamayo-Mendez

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Henry_Lawrence%2C_Jr.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronaut#Insignia
&lt;/I&gt;

Sep 22 07, 9:22 PM
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, women were just not taken seriously in the 60s.  (And BTW, the &#8220;Movement&#8221; that was pushing for more civil rights, ecology, anti-war etc. had many leaders also contemptuous of women taking big strides.  Look up the history.)  I don&#8217;t know when the first Asian made it.  However, a black astronaut was picked way back on June 30, 1967!  Sadly few of the general public know of him.  That is partly because he died in a training flight and never went up. Check this out, but I think there is an error (Bluford was the first <i>black American</i> up, but a Cuban went before him &#8211; see below):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.infoplease.com/spot/bhmfirsts.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.infoplease.com/spot/bhmfirsts.html</a></p>
<p><i>First astronaut:<br />
Robert H. Lawrence, Jr., 1967, was the first black astronaut, but he died in a plane crash during a training flight and never made it into space. Guion Bluford, 1983, became the first black astronaut to travel in space; Mae Jemison, 1992, became the first black female astronaut. Frederick D. Gregory, 1998, was the first African-American shuttle commander.</i></p>
<p>But here&#8217;s a better rundown from a board, at <a href="http://www.funtrivia.com/askft/Question86253.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.funtrivia.com/askft/Question86253.html</a>:</p>
<p><i><br />
cag1970</p>
<p>	Let&#8217;s straighten this out:</p>
<p>Captain Edward Dwight (USAF) was the first black person to train as an astronaut. He trained from 1962 to 1966, but was never designated to a specific program. He&#8217;s made his living as an artist and monument sculptor since then.</p>
<p>Major Robert H. Lawrence (USAF) was the first black person to be assigned to a specific space program&#8211;specifically, the Air Force&#8217;s Manned Orbital Laboratory program (successor to the X-20 program).</p>
<p>Arnaldo Tamayo Méndez (Cuba) was the first person of African ancestory AND the first Hispanic speaker to travel in space. He flew with Yuri Romanenko on Soyuz 38 September 18-26, 1980.</p>
<p>As a matter of course, neither Dwight nor Lawrence qualify as astronauts, under the definitions of the FAI, NASA or the US military. Dwight and Lawrence were, more correctly, astronaut-candidates. Tamayo Méndez is considered a cosmonaut, techincally, because he traveled on board a Soviet spacecraft. But his flight into space predated Bluford&#8217;s journey on board STS-8 by almost three years.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thehistorymakers.com/biography/biography.asp?bioindex=157" rel="nofollow">http://www.thehistorymakers.com/biography/biography.asp?bioindex=157</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnaldo_Tamayo-Mendez" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnaldo_Tamayo-Mendez</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Henry_Lawrence%2C_Jr" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Henry_Lawrence%2C_Jr</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronaut#Insignia" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronaut#Insignia</a><br />
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<p>Sep 22 07, 9:22 PM<br />
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		<title>By: jianying</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/11/14/hey-nasa-listen-up/comment-page-1/#comment-47247</link>
		<dc:creator>jianying</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 21:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there&#039;s a documentary on how women were trained for the moon missions but was not called to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there&#8217;s a documentary on how women were trained for the moon missions but was not called to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Sili</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/11/14/hey-nasa-listen-up/comment-page-1/#comment-47225</link>
		<dc:creator>Sili</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But sausages are delicious!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But sausages are delicious!</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2008/11/14/hey-nasa-listen-up/comment-page-1/#comment-47165</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every comic comes equip with bonus jokes: the alt text and the subject line automatically suggested by &quot;comments.&quot; So &quot;you may be wondering who the thirteenth person on the moon is.  it&#039;s t-rex!  he left his wallet there once.  it was by ACCIDENT.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every comic comes equip with bonus jokes: the alt text and the subject line automatically suggested by &#8220;comments.&#8221; So &#8220;you may be wondering who the thirteenth person on the moon is.  it&#8217;s t-rex!  he left his wallet there once.  it was by ACCIDENT.&#8221;</p>
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