But seriously, this issue has been dealt with at length here:

http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/2009/02/does-rep-damschens-have-sick-lust-for.html

Better a Bayesian than a vapid atheist.

Well, in our defense, most of us were not aware that you, speaking on behalf of all scientists, authoritatively proclaimed that there is no such thing as natural law.

You forgot ex-thinker.

Still, that photo with those kids and those shirts, I don’t know, it’s creepy.

You are barely making any sense. Every person is a collection of their own actions and words. That is so obvious it shouldn’t even be said. And clearly, I have been adjusting my (rather high) opinion of Sean flexibly as well. I am trying to hold him to (what I believe to be) a higher standard. This is no different from what Sean is asking others when he points out their flawed beliefs and desired policies. So even Sean doesn’t hold to your mantra of “tell us what you think….not of what others should do or think”. And I would have to say that even you do not subscribe to that, as you are now asking me act in a certain manner.

why do you expect other people to behave what you think of them to do? To me Sean is just a collection of what he said and what he did. I just adjust my opinion of him flexibly whenever I read his blogs and papers. But you are asking him to say what you might think of him to say. What’s the point?
Just tell us what you think of these pathetic people, not of what others should do or think.

‘I’m happy to say making fun of this isn’t beneath me.’

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I should clarify: I don’t object to making fun of this, per se. I mean, yes…it can be and is quite funny to a number of people. What I object to is making fun of this in order to advance a political point—and that is exactly what Sean did. I think the difference is paramount.

I still wonder about this site though…its remind me of:

http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/

One could also ask…what were these people thinking?

Anyway, what boggles my mind even harder is the apparently unwitting self-abasement. Is this really supposed to be persuasive? A big happy grin and…THAT on your shirt? Everybody wanks but we still make fun of it. It can’t be helped. Even the most permissive will not, at a gathering of close friends, declare they had a wonderful toss last weekend. There’s something intrinsically embarrassing about self-gratification that defies all appeals to high-minded tolerance and promotion of sexual health. I should think that the natural approach to the subject, if it also brought grief to one’s conscience, is to simply refrain from discussing the act altogether. Ex-virtually anything else might get some kind of high-five from somebody for choosing to abstain, but “Ex-Masturbator” is just pathetic. I want to crawl in a hole and die just looking at these poor kids, it’s so humiliating. What on Earth were these people thinking?

This blog on cognition, culture, and computer programming identifies two modes of thinking that I see in Christian circles; “Mapping” is akin to the visionary, reflective stream of christian thought; “Packing” is a lower-order level of simple procedure-based thinking.

Packers have a whole proceduralised culture that provides behavioural tramlines for just about everything. It’s so complete you don’t even notice it until you solve a problem perfectly effectively one day, by a method that’s not on the list. It might be trivial.. Mappers hardly ever get the upper hand on these cultural issues, but when it does happen it can be hilarious. A packer gave a dinner party and it so happened that over half of the guests were mapper types, IT workers and others. The host pulled a pile of warm plates from the oven, and started handing them to the guy on his left.”Just pass them around!”, he cried cheerfully. Everything went well until he realised he needed to shout “Stop!” [everyone was just passing plates around randomly in an endless loop!] Mappers don’t have a general cultural context to learn from, so we are almost entirely self taught.

i do believe in God, but he is not a control freak or obsessed with every little mistake people make. i believe in a certain level of sexual morality but this is grotesque and cult-like behaviour.

I’ll +1 you on removing intelligent design and abstinence-only education, but your view on same-sex marriages and abortion rights are very debatable…so have some sympathy. There is more than one solution to those problems.

And either way, I’m not sure how what you wrote now directly relates to the website you linked to. I only browsed the site, but I don’t think that they were advocating any legal/policy viewpoints. Its certainly possible that the authors or people subscribing to similar views believe that such legal action is good, but the site itself is speaking strictly to moral issues. I’m tempted to say ”strawman”.

YESSSSSSS!!!!