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		<title>By: Planck Launch One Week Away &#124; Cosmic Variance &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2009/04/23/twitter-agonistes/comment-page-1/#comment-74345</link>
		<dc:creator>Planck Launch One Week Away &#124; Cosmic Variance &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 03:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] from the European Space Agency (ESA). You can also follow the mission using any number of those newfangled methods the young folk seem to be getting into - see Andrew Jaffe&#8217;s post over at Leaves on the Line [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] from the European Space Agency (ESA). You can also follow the mission using any number of those newfangled methods the young folk seem to be getting into &#8211; see Andrew Jaffe&#8217;s post over at Leaves on the Line [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Is Twitter Just a Big Ego Trip? &#171; iblogo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2009/04/23/twitter-agonistes/comment-page-1/#comment-74184</link>
		<dc:creator>Is Twitter Just a Big Ego Trip? &#171; iblogo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 13:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Carroll, &#8220;Twitter Agonistes,&#8221; Discover, April 23, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Carroll, &#8220;Twitter Agonistes,&#8221; Discover, April 23, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew S</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2009/04/23/twitter-agonistes/comment-page-1/#comment-73901</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 10:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real problem with twitter is that it&#039;s a centralized service controlled by a single company. It&#039;s sort of like what AOL mail or Compuserve mail were back before they joined the real internet. Twitter is a walled garden and a single point of failure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real problem with twitter is that it&#8217;s a centralized service controlled by a single company. It&#8217;s sort of like what AOL mail or Compuserve mail were back before they joined the real internet. Twitter is a walled garden and a single point of failure.</p>
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		<title>By: ptah</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2009/04/23/twitter-agonistes/comment-page-1/#comment-73632</link>
		<dc:creator>ptah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 07:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But the claim that Twitter is nothing but mindless inanities is just as wrong as the analogous claim for blogs — in fact it’s precisely the same claim, five years later. &quot;

And - just as with blogs - it is false to say that Twitter is NOTHING BUT mindless inanities.

However - just as with blogs - it is MOSTLY mindless inanities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But the claim that Twitter is nothing but mindless inanities is just as wrong as the analogous claim for blogs — in fact it’s precisely the same claim, five years later. &#8221;</p>
<p>And &#8211; just as with blogs &#8211; it is false to say that Twitter is NOTHING BUT mindless inanities.</p>
<p>However &#8211; just as with blogs &#8211; it is MOSTLY mindless inanities.</p>
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		<title>By: mk</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2009/04/23/twitter-agonistes/comment-page-1/#comment-73145</link>
		<dc:creator>mk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ James...

Ah, &quot;onewhinesmanship&quot; I think is better! Go with it.

And thanks to ChrisG for playing along! ;^}</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ James&#8230;</p>
<p>Ah, &#8220;onewhinesmanship&#8221; I think is better! Go with it.</p>
<p>And thanks to ChrisG for playing along! ;^}</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2009/04/23/twitter-agonistes/comment-page-1/#comment-73136</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ChrisG: I&#039;m not judging.  I just want a nice name for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ChrisG: I&#8217;m not judging.  I just want a nice name for it.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisG</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2009/04/23/twitter-agonistes/comment-page-1/#comment-73028</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, just a reminder that Twitter isn&#039;t always about &quot;What I had for dinner&quot;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8018017.stm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, just a reminder that Twitter isn&#8217;t always about &#8220;What I had for dinner&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8018017.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8018017.stm</a></p>
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		<title>By: ChrisG</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2009/04/23/twitter-agonistes/comment-page-1/#comment-73027</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@James

Last I checked, when someone posted something on the internet, they are inviting a reply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@James</p>
<p>Last I checked, when someone posted something on the internet, they are inviting a reply.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2009/04/23/twitter-agonistes/comment-page-1/#comment-72980</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 05:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about &quot;onewhinesmanship&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about &#8220;onewhinesmanship&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2009/04/23/twitter-agonistes/comment-page-1/#comment-72979</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 05:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mk: That&#039;s pretty good.  I also like James&#039;s Law. :) I guess we&#039;d have to make it into a law first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mk: That&#8217;s pretty good.  I also like James&#8217;s Law. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I guess we&#8217;d have to make it into a law first.</p>
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		<title>By: Claire C Smith</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2009/04/23/twitter-agonistes/comment-page-1/#comment-72951</link>
		<dc:creator>Claire C Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 23:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean,

I am a Twit now. In some ways, wish I hadn&#039;t bothered being a Twit, but the people/followers seem ok tho. Can&#039;t see my self dropping it now, for fear or offending what followers I have (haven&#039;t yet got round to talking to anyone on show, just direct msgs to and fro).

You know that Campbell&#039;s Condensed Soup, Twitter is like that - but without the soup.

Claire</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean,</p>
<p>I am a Twit now. In some ways, wish I hadn&#8217;t bothered being a Twit, but the people/followers seem ok tho. Can&#8217;t see my self dropping it now, for fear or offending what followers I have (haven&#8217;t yet got round to talking to anyone on show, just direct msgs to and fro).</p>
<p>You know that Campbell&#8217;s Condensed Soup, Twitter is like that &#8211; but without the soup.</p>
<p>Claire</p>
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		<title>By: Moshe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2009/04/23/twitter-agonistes/comment-page-1/#comment-72935</link>
		<dc:creator>Moshe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The column by Maureen Down is really terrific.  You would think it is dumbed down intentionally  to demonstrate how the soundbite format makes communication superficial. This would be a brilliant way to make the point, unless  you are familiar with all the other columns Dowd write over her long career...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The column by Maureen Down is really terrific.  You would think it is dumbed down intentionally  to demonstrate how the soundbite format makes communication superficial. This would be a brilliant way to make the point, unless  you are familiar with all the other columns Dowd write over her long career&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2009/04/23/twitter-agonistes/comment-page-1/#comment-72934</link>
		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just what the world needs - a plague of self absorbed inane text snippets, polluting the radio spectrum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just what the world needs &#8211; a plague of self absorbed inane text snippets, polluting the radio spectrum.</p>
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		<title>By: mk</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2009/04/23/twitter-agonistes/comment-page-1/#comment-72931</link>
		<dc:creator>mk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@James...

&quot;Circular Whining&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@James&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Circular Whining&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2009/04/23/twitter-agonistes/comment-page-1/#comment-72911</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 11:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet another instance of the following:

1. Some people do X, where X is something that is easily avoided if you want to.
2. Some other people complain about people doing X.  These complaints are easily avoided if you want to.
3. Some people (often a subset of those who do X) complain about people complaining about people who do X, on the grounds that X is easily avoided if you want to, though they usually fail to mention that the complaints they&#039;re complaining about are easily avoided if you want to.  These complaints are also easily avoided if you want to.
4. You get the idea.

This phenomenon needs a nice, pithy name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another instance of the following:</p>
<p>1. Some people do X, where X is something that is easily avoided if you want to.<br />
2. Some other people complain about people doing X.  These complaints are easily avoided if you want to.<br />
3. Some people (often a subset of those who do X) complain about people complaining about people who do X, on the grounds that X is easily avoided if you want to, though they usually fail to mention that the complaints they&#8217;re complaining about are easily avoided if you want to.  These complaints are also easily avoided if you want to.<br />
4. You get the idea.</p>
<p>This phenomenon needs a nice, pithy name.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Saunders</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2009/04/23/twitter-agonistes/comment-page-1/#comment-72874</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 22:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I see no reason to Twitter.  I have a FB account mostly to share photos and news with family and a few friends, but I ignore the &#039;applications&#039; there.  I have no objections to others using Twitter, but then, I have no objections to them jumping of cliffs or drinking themselves to death. It&#039;s a free country.  
I think most grumpy old Luddite curmudgeons feel the users of making more of less...pretty soon they will be &#039;friends&#039; with everyone but not really know anyone.  All relationships will be virtual  (sounds like the subject of a thesis for a psych PHD, doesn&#039;t it?)
BTW:  My blog is entitled Get Off My Lawn
LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I see no reason to Twitter.  I have a FB account mostly to share photos and news with family and a few friends, but I ignore the &#8216;applications&#8217; there.  I have no objections to others using Twitter, but then, I have no objections to them jumping of cliffs or drinking themselves to death. It&#8217;s a free country.<br />
I think most grumpy old Luddite curmudgeons feel the users of making more of less&#8230;pretty soon they will be &#8216;friends&#8217; with everyone but not really know anyone.  All relationships will be virtual  (sounds like the subject of a thesis for a psych PHD, doesn&#8217;t it?)<br />
BTW:  My blog is entitled Get Off My Lawn<br />
LOL</p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 18:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>c&#039;mon, drink the twitter kool-aid...

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>c&#8217;mon, drink the twitter kool-aid&#8230;</p>
<p> <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: daisyrose</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2009/04/23/twitter-agonistes/comment-page-1/#comment-72844</link>
		<dc:creator>daisyrose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about ones own thoughts - How can you have them if you are constantly interrupted - Steady stream of what ?  It is difficult  for me to clear my mind - stop the chatter - decide between   thousands of  possibilities -  All the Foofaraw ...... getting used to quiet. .... and finally:  Ideas - ways of looking at things I never planned on all on my own. 

However 
 If you want to feel connected and important - and that gives you the energy you need to do your work you are in luck -  instantly ! Twitter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about ones own thoughts &#8211; How can you have them if you are constantly interrupted &#8211; Steady stream of what ?  It is difficult  for me to clear my mind &#8211; stop the chatter &#8211; decide between   thousands of  possibilities &#8211;  All the Foofaraw &#8230;&#8230; getting used to quiet. &#8230;. and finally:  Ideas &#8211; ways of looking at things I never planned on all on my own. </p>
<p>However<br />
 If you want to feel connected and important &#8211; and that gives you the energy you need to do your work you are in luck &#8211;  instantly ! Twitter.</p>
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		<title>By: Lab Lemming</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2009/04/23/twitter-agonistes/comment-page-1/#comment-72820</link>
		<dc:creator>Lab Lemming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twitter effects non-users when great bloggers start twittering and stop writing informative, interesting posts like they used to.

Of course, it is possible that they&#039;d quit without twitter, but those who haven&#039;t quit, merely dropped from three days a week to once every three weeks are probably twtting instead of writing.

Some examples include:
http://scienceblogs.com/highlyallochthonous/
http://scienceblogs.com/greengabbro/
and
http://highway8a.blogspot.com/
Who actually fesses up here:
http://highway8a.blogspot.com/2009/04/this-site-worth-variable-amounts.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twitter effects non-users when great bloggers start twittering and stop writing informative, interesting posts like they used to.</p>
<p>Of course, it is possible that they&#8217;d quit without twitter, but those who haven&#8217;t quit, merely dropped from three days a week to once every three weeks are probably twtting instead of writing.</p>
<p>Some examples include:<br />
<a href="http://scienceblogs.com/highlyallochthonous/" rel="nofollow">http://scienceblogs.com/highlyallochthonous/</a><br />
<a href="http://scienceblogs.com/greengabbro/" rel="nofollow">http://scienceblogs.com/greengabbro/</a><br />
and<br />
<a href="http://highway8a.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://highway8a.blogspot.com/</a><br />
Who actually fesses up here:<br />
<a href="http://highway8a.blogspot.com/2009/04/this-site-worth-variable-amounts.html" rel="nofollow">http://highway8a.blogspot.com/2009/04/this-site-worth-variable-amounts.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Helbig</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2009/04/23/twitter-agonistes/comment-page-1/#comment-72811</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Helbig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 09:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Good time-related quotes being sought. &quot;The future&#039;s not ours to see.&quot; -- Doris Day&quot;.

If you&#039;re still looking, how about &quot;Dessa dagar som kom och gick, inte visste jag
att det var livet.&quot;  Author is Stig Johansson, described on the web page
http://www.livet.se/ord/k%C3%A4lla/Stig_Johansson as an &quot;aphoristicist&quot;.  Now
that&#039;s a nice job.  A translation is &quot;All these days which came and went, I didn&#039;t know
that that was life.&quot;  As a Twitter motto, how about the classic self-referential quote from 
Stephen Jay Gould: &quot;No one-liner is ever optimal.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Good time-related quotes being sought. &#8220;The future&#8217;s not ours to see.&#8221; &#8212; Doris Day&#8221;.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re still looking, how about &#8220;Dessa dagar som kom och gick, inte visste jag<br />
att det var livet.&#8221;  Author is Stig Johansson, described on the web page<br />
<a href="http://www.livet.se/ord/k%C3%A4lla/Stig_Johansson" rel="nofollow">http://www.livet.se/ord/k%C3%A4lla/Stig_Johansson</a> as an &#8220;aphoristicist&#8221;.  Now<br />
that&#8217;s a nice job.  A translation is &#8220;All these days which came and went, I didn&#8217;t know<br />
that that was life.&#8221;  As a Twitter motto, how about the classic self-referential quote from<br />
Stephen Jay Gould: &#8220;No one-liner is ever optimal.&#8221;</p>
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