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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2009/08/18/galileo-vs-newton/comment-page-1/#comment-91929</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 01:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;One big difference was that England was a Protestant country under a Protestant king.&quot;

Actually, England (along with the rest of the British Isles) was ruled by James II (numeral applies only in England, different for other parts of the British Isles), a Catholic, when Newton published the Principia. However, you are right to say that the country was Protestant though, as a year after the publication of the Principia, the Protestant William of Orange was called upon to overthrow James. He duly obliged in the &quot;bloodless&quot; (wasn&#039;t at all) Glorious Revolution, and jointly ruled with his wife as William III and Mary II (English numerals again). Shortly after, the English Bill of Rights of 1689 was passed, which has had an massive effect not just on English history, but also of places historically associated with England, particularly the US, where it was a source of inspiration for the US Bill of Rights.

So although this perhaps seems like a very pedantic comment, particularly as James didn&#039;t reign for very long, this point isn&#039;t trivial to me, as it is a massive moment in my country&#039;s (the UK) history, and the pedantic details then come naturally from that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;One big difference was that England was a Protestant country under a Protestant king.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, England (along with the rest of the British Isles) was ruled by James II (numeral applies only in England, different for other parts of the British Isles), a Catholic, when Newton published the Principia. However, you are right to say that the country was Protestant though, as a year after the publication of the Principia, the Protestant William of Orange was called upon to overthrow James. He duly obliged in the &#8220;bloodless&#8221; (wasn&#8217;t at all) Glorious Revolution, and jointly ruled with his wife as William III and Mary II (English numerals again). Shortly after, the English Bill of Rights of 1689 was passed, which has had an massive effect not just on English history, but also of places historically associated with England, particularly the US, where it was a source of inspiration for the US Bill of Rights.</p>
<p>So although this perhaps seems like a very pedantic comment, particularly as James didn&#8217;t reign for very long, this point isn&#8217;t trivial to me, as it is a massive moment in my country&#8217;s (the UK) history, and the pedantic details then come naturally from that.</p>
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		<title>By: materialsdave.com</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2009/08/18/galileo-vs-newton/comment-page-1/#comment-91826</link>
		<dc:creator>materialsdave.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Newton vs. Galileo and popular science communication&lt;/strong&gt;

Sean Carroll over at the Cosmic Variance blog linked to this interesting talk by Chad Orzelon scientific communication. He compares the communication models of Isaac Newton (highly technical, highly mathematical) and Galileo (accessible, readable)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Newton vs. Galileo and popular science communication</strong></p>
<p>Sean Carroll over at the Cosmic Variance blog linked to this interesting talk by Chad Orzelon scientific communication. He compares the communication models of Isaac Newton (highly technical, highly mathematical) and Galileo (accessible, readable)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: 21 August 09 (am) &#171; blueollie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2009/08/18/galileo-vs-newton/comment-page-1/#comment-91504</link>
		<dc:creator>21 August 09 (am) &#171; blueollie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Variance: this is a bit of a humorous post comparing Galileo to Newton, both in what they did and how they [...]</description>
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		<title>By: jondiced</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2009/08/18/galileo-vs-newton/comment-page-1/#comment-91378</link>
		<dc:creator>jondiced</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Orwell would definitely agree that there&#039;s a relationship between being a company man, and writing badly.
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm (I love this essay)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Orwell would definitely agree that there&#8217;s a relationship between being a company man, and writing badly.<br />
<a href="http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm</a> (I love this essay)</p>
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		<title>By: Kaleberg</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2009/08/18/galileo-vs-newton/comment-page-1/#comment-91328</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaleberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One big difference was that England was a Protestant country under a Protestant king. That made a huge difference in what one could publish. Given that the scientific revolution has only happened once, it is worth noting the political, religious and cultural background necessary for its long term success. 

Another big difference is that reading Galileo&#039;s dialog was not sufficient for figuring out how to do any useful calculations. It was a philosophical work. Newton&#039;s book was designed so that those who could follow it could duplicate his work, and use it for predicting orbits, artillery ranges and so on. In many ways it was a more radical work, since Galileo did not address causes the way Newton did. Galileo&#039;s model of the solar system was perfectly compatible with active divine intervention. Newton argued that the cause of planetary motion was independent of any divine intervention, save as the initial creator of the system and the laws of physics themselves. In fact, it was this radicalism that led Newton to caution, and led to repeated references to God as the clockmaker, to provide the deity with a suitable role. Consider, once the clock is built, it operates just fine without a clockmaker. In a Catholic country, that argument might be considered blasphemous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One big difference was that England was a Protestant country under a Protestant king. That made a huge difference in what one could publish. Given that the scientific revolution has only happened once, it is worth noting the political, religious and cultural background necessary for its long term success. </p>
<p>Another big difference is that reading Galileo&#8217;s dialog was not sufficient for figuring out how to do any useful calculations. It was a philosophical work. Newton&#8217;s book was designed so that those who could follow it could duplicate his work, and use it for predicting orbits, artillery ranges and so on. In many ways it was a more radical work, since Galileo did not address causes the way Newton did. Galileo&#8217;s model of the solar system was perfectly compatible with active divine intervention. Newton argued that the cause of planetary motion was independent of any divine intervention, save as the initial creator of the system and the laws of physics themselves. In fact, it was this radicalism that led Newton to caution, and led to repeated references to God as the clockmaker, to provide the deity with a suitable role. Consider, once the clock is built, it operates just fine without a clockmaker. In a Catholic country, that argument might be considered blasphemous.</p>
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		<title>By: federico</title>
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		<dc:creator>federico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if Darwin thought about these two stiles. To stay a virgin would go against evolution, to face the church et al was bad enough, unless you are old enough not to care anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if Darwin thought about these two stiles. To stay a virgin would go against evolution, to face the church et al was bad enough, unless you are old enough not to care anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Larsson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2009/08/18/galileo-vs-newton/comment-page-1/#comment-91259</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Larsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This summer I took my family for a vacation in London, and we visited Greenwich (and I learned that it is pronounced Grenich). I also learned that in 1712 Newton and Edmond Halley published a preliminary version of royal astronomer John Flamsteed&#039;s Historia Coelestis Britannica without crediting the author. So apart from being in constant conflict with Hooke, Newton evidently managed to seriously piss off Flamsteed.

Besides, Erdös remained a virgin, and that did not reduce his (mathematical) fertility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This summer I took my family for a vacation in London, and we visited Greenwich (and I learned that it is pronounced Grenich). I also learned that in 1712 Newton and Edmond Halley published a preliminary version of royal astronomer John Flamsteed&#8217;s Historia Coelestis Britannica without crediting the author. So apart from being in constant conflict with Hooke, Newton evidently managed to seriously piss off Flamsteed.</p>
<p>Besides, Erdös remained a virgin, and that did not reduce his (mathematical) fertility.</p>
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		<title>By: Plato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears that Galileo was using Plato&#039;s dialogue as a &quot;method of transference of information&quot; to his readers. Like a plot of a good story &quot;you create your characters&quot; and then conceptually hope the transference embodies all  that y0u would like passed on.

Newton was very picky about releasing any information until it was complete. Plus,  he had many characterization problems of his own,  so he was secular in his relations. He just wanted the facts, while he dabbled in &lt;a href=&quot;http://webapp1.dlib.indiana.edu/newton/&quot; title=&quot;Chymistry of Isaac Newton&quot; rel=&quot;follow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Chymistry&lt;/a&gt; and its psychological benefits to change that.:) Bogus or not,  Newton cared about his conduct

Hey nice editing comment feature here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears that Galileo was using Plato&#8217;s dialogue as a &#8220;method of transference of information&#8221; to his readers. Like a plot of a good story &#8220;you create your characters&#8221; and then conceptually hope the transference embodies all  that y0u would like passed on.</p>
<p>Newton was very picky about releasing any information until it was complete. Plus,  he had many characterization problems of his own,  so he was secular in his relations. He just wanted the facts, while he dabbled in <a href="http://webapp1.dlib.indiana.edu/newton/" title="Chymistry of Isaac Newton" rel="follow" rel="nofollow">Chymistry</a> and its psychological benefits to change that.:) Bogus or not,  Newton cared about his conduct</p>
<p>Hey nice editing comment feature here.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the evidence presented in your study with its sample size of two both compelling and statistically significant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the evidence presented in your study with its sample size of two both compelling and statistically significant.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t Galileo also have problems proving stellar parallax?</description>
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