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	<title>Comments on: Insane Clown Posse Channels Walt Whitman</title>
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		<title>By: juggaloboy6jc</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/10/13/insane-clown-posse-channels-walt-whitman/comment-page-1/#comment-140310</link>
		<dc:creator>juggaloboy6jc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 13:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh and whoop whoop (bitches)</description>
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		<title>By: juggaloboy6jc</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/10/13/insane-clown-posse-channels-walt-whitman/comment-page-1/#comment-140309</link>
		<dc:creator>juggaloboy6jc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 13:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alls I have to say is that if you have nothing better to do then go to a website, read an article with something in the title that you apparently don&#039;t like and turn around and waste your time posting your opinion on it is beside me. Aren&#039;t you all going to feel stupid when the aliens come tell us about how they have been manipulating man kind since the beginning of time and the world is based on their creations and inventions. Kinda funny how fucked up shit can get when half of what you &quot;know&quot; is based on assumptions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alls I have to say is that if you have nothing better to do then go to a website, read an article with something in the title that you apparently don&#8217;t like and turn around and waste your time posting your opinion on it is beside me. Aren&#8217;t you all going to feel stupid when the aliens come tell us about how they have been manipulating man kind since the beginning of time and the world is based on their creations and inventions. Kinda funny how fucked up shit can get when half of what you &#8220;know&#8221; is based on assumptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Chewy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/10/13/insane-clown-posse-channels-walt-whitman/comment-page-1/#comment-140161</link>
		<dc:creator>Chewy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2010 20:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all you people who seem to have nothing better to do other then talkin&#039; shit. Let me spell it out for you, to help better your perceptions. Science has become as much of a religion as Catholicism or Christianity. Look at Scientology for instance, it is a religion based around SCIENCE, and the belief that &quot;science explains everything...&quot; and dont tell me their arn&#039;t fanatics out there who preach these rites, Because you know as well as I, that thats a lie. their no better or worse than our fellow Insane Clown Posse. Neither, you, or I, are any better or worse. People try to explain many things, certain things; we&#039;ve come to accept as fact. Others have much room for deliberation! People have their theory’s... and that’s all they&#039;ll be THEORYS. Not facts...

Now, you people need to focus on more important topics... stay out of the Juggalo world. because WE DONT WANT YOU THERE. So Kindly... fuck off. Unless you&#039;d like to understand the people, rather then take from it what you want, and exploit it for your own personal gain.

Oh, and they dont outwrite claim to be anything... they believe in god. Many religions believe in god. Does that make them a christian? why are people so-g0d-damn stupid...

Ignorant?! Ha, I wish I could be half as ignorant as most of you, maybe then I could go on with my miserable life laughing at others while they attempt to live their lives to the best of their abilitys...
They&#039;ve done somethin&#039; you can barely grasp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all you people who seem to have nothing better to do other then talkin&#8217; shit. Let me spell it out for you, to help better your perceptions. Science has become as much of a religion as Catholicism or Christianity. Look at Scientology for instance, it is a religion based around SCIENCE, and the belief that &#8220;science explains everything&#8230;&#8221; and dont tell me their arn&#8217;t fanatics out there who preach these rites, Because you know as well as I, that thats a lie. their no better or worse than our fellow Insane Clown Posse. Neither, you, or I, are any better or worse. People try to explain many things, certain things; we&#8217;ve come to accept as fact. Others have much room for deliberation! People have their theory’s&#8230; and that’s all they&#8217;ll be THEORYS. Not facts&#8230;</p>
<p>Now, you people need to focus on more important topics&#8230; stay out of the Juggalo world. because WE DONT WANT YOU THERE. So Kindly&#8230; fuck off. Unless you&#8217;d like to understand the people, rather then take from it what you want, and exploit it for your own personal gain.</p>
<p>Oh, and they dont outwrite claim to be anything&#8230; they believe in god. Many religions believe in god. Does that make them a christian? why are people so-g0d-damn stupid&#8230;</p>
<p>Ignorant?! Ha, I wish I could be half as ignorant as most of you, maybe then I could go on with my miserable life laughing at others while they attempt to live their lives to the best of their abilitys&#8230;<br />
They&#8217;ve done somethin&#8217; you can barely grasp.</p>
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		<title>By: that1juggalo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/10/13/insane-clown-posse-channels-walt-whitman/comment-page-1/#comment-139702</link>
		<dc:creator>that1juggalo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2010 01:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i love how all of you think that you are better than us cuz you cant imagine that a group like icp has an actual fan base that doesnt care about what you guys think if you guys think that they are so bad and uncool then leave us alone we never asked to be on your radar or to get any press from any of you so just leave all of us alone leave the fam and the clowns and psychopathic records alone just get off our nuts and just go back to your fucking poetry readings and your fucking college coffee house and talk about your take on the meaning of life and let us have our fucking fun and just listen to a group just for the sake of listening to them so peace the fuck out
                                                                                      mmwcfl
                                                                              down with the clown since 97</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love how all of you think that you are better than us cuz you cant imagine that a group like icp has an actual fan base that doesnt care about what you guys think if you guys think that they are so bad and uncool then leave us alone we never asked to be on your radar or to get any press from any of you so just leave all of us alone leave the fam and the clowns and psychopathic records alone just get off our nuts and just go back to your fucking poetry readings and your fucking college coffee house and talk about your take on the meaning of life and let us have our fucking fun and just listen to a group just for the sake of listening to them so peace the fuck out<br />
                                                                                      mmwcfl<br />
                                                                              down with the clown since 97</p>
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		<title>By: jick</title>
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		<dc:creator>jick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2010 09:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fuckin’ entertainment industry, how do they work?
And I don’t wanna talk to a clown
Y’all motherfuckers lying and
getting me pissed.


* In fact I&#039;m not really pissed at them. (Insane Clown what? I have a gazillion better celebrities to hate about.) Consider it my artistic license.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fuckin’ entertainment industry, how do they work?<br />
And I don’t wanna talk to a clown<br />
Y’all motherfuckers lying and<br />
getting me pissed.</p>
<p>* In fact I&#8217;m not really pissed at them. (Insane Clown what? I have a gazillion better celebrities to hate about.) Consider it my artistic license.</p>
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		<title>By: PJ KIng</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/10/13/insane-clown-posse-channels-walt-whitman/comment-page-1/#comment-137594</link>
		<dc:creator>PJ KIng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2010 00:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article is a waste of bytes.  Some of just don&#039;t care what the inane Insane Clown Posse and their ignornat view of science.  I think you need to find another field to work in Sean as you do not have the sense of logic it takes to write a scirntific blog-and I am sure that many readers agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is a waste of bytes.  Some of just don&#8217;t care what the inane Insane Clown Posse and their ignornat view of science.  I think you need to find another field to work in Sean as you do not have the sense of logic it takes to write a scirntific blog-and I am sure that many readers agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Neal</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/10/13/insane-clown-posse-channels-walt-whitman/comment-page-1/#comment-137489</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Neal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2010 06:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those who think it is ridiculous that ICP claim to be evangelical Christians:

They haven&#039;t denied it.  Any Jewish or Muslim believer certainly would have by now.  What religion do you suppose they follow?  Baha&#039;i?  My money is on Christianity, and, yes, the evangelical variety. They are, after all, *evangelizing*.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who think it is ridiculous that ICP claim to be evangelical Christians:</p>
<p>They haven&#8217;t denied it.  Any Jewish or Muslim believer certainly would have by now.  What religion do you suppose they follow?  Baha&#8217;i?  My money is on Christianity, and, yes, the evangelical variety. They are, after all, *evangelizing*.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/10/13/insane-clown-posse-channels-walt-whitman/comment-page-1/#comment-137322</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 06:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy crap it took me until now to realize that he was using the word &quot;fuck&quot; in two different ways in that quote.  Damn, that was REALLY confusing when I first read this interview... and now it is all clear!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy crap it took me until now to realize that he was using the word &#8220;fuck&#8221; in two different ways in that quote.  Damn, that was REALLY confusing when I first read this interview&#8230; and now it is all clear!</p>
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		<title>By: Low Math, Meekly Interacting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Low Math, Meekly Interacting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 02:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am getting old and utterly unhip.   Yet even I know that ICP are beneath contempt.   As are their typical fans, who, mercifully, are not yet frighteningly numerous.  André 3000 starts spewing this manure, then I get worried.  These guys?  A three-year-old who won&#039;t stop saying &quot;poopie&quot; is more newsworthy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am getting old and utterly unhip.   Yet even I know that ICP are beneath contempt.   As are their typical fans, who, mercifully, are not yet frighteningly numerous.  André 3000 starts spewing this manure, then I get worried.  These guys?  A three-year-old who won&#8217;t stop saying &#8220;poopie&#8221; is more newsworthy.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob R.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/10/13/insane-clown-posse-channels-walt-whitman/comment-page-1/#comment-137267</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 01:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean: &lt;i&gt;&quot;Oh yes, and they are evangelical Christians&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

There&#039;s a sucker born every minute. *rolls eyes* 



Perhaps the blogging hiatus wasn&#039;t such a bad idea after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean: <i>&#8220;Oh yes, and they are evangelical Christians&#8221;</i></p>
<p>There&#8217;s a sucker born every minute. *rolls eyes* </p>
<p>Perhaps the blogging hiatus wasn&#8217;t such a bad idea after all.</p>
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		<title>By: phoenix</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/10/13/insane-clown-posse-channels-walt-whitman/comment-page-1/#comment-137251</link>
		<dc:creator>phoenix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 23:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He didn&#039;t mean not to change you&#039;re behaviour because of the mom.  It was like &quot;Screw you mom!&quot;  &quot;Screw you scientists!&quot;  You&#039;re taking the magic outta this moment. You&#039;re ruining things.  Different scenario, same jist.  Let me enjoy this amazing thing, this miracle, don&#039;t ruin it for me by explaining HOW it works. Just that it is there is enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He didn&#8217;t mean not to change you&#8217;re behaviour because of the mom.  It was like &#8220;Screw you mom!&#8221;  &#8220;Screw you scientists!&#8221;  You&#8217;re taking the magic outta this moment. You&#8217;re ruining things.  Different scenario, same jist.  Let me enjoy this amazing thing, this miracle, don&#8217;t ruin it for me by explaining HOW it works. Just that it is there is enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Paddy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/10/13/insane-clown-posse-channels-walt-whitman/comment-page-1/#comment-137218</link>
		<dc:creator>Paddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 19:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Many&lt;/i&gt; astronomers have an especial fondness for Whitman&#039;s poem; I&#039;ve seen it used as an introductory quotation in more than one PhD thesis. People who prefer the raw mystery of the night to seminar-room explanations make excellent observers. They happily spend their nights freezing at the telescope, and they do their Popperian best to knock down whatever theory Sean and his friends can throw at them. 

The rumour is that the Learn&#039;d astronomer was Simon Newcomb. An hour of hardcore solar-system astrometry would give anyone a funny turn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Many</i> astronomers have an especial fondness for Whitman&#8217;s poem; I&#8217;ve seen it used as an introductory quotation in more than one PhD thesis. People who prefer the raw mystery of the night to seminar-room explanations make excellent observers. They happily spend their nights freezing at the telescope, and they do their Popperian best to knock down whatever theory Sean and his friends can throw at them. </p>
<p>The rumour is that the Learn&#8217;d astronomer was Simon Newcomb. An hour of hardcore solar-system astrometry would give anyone a funny turn.</p>
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		<title>By: davidt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/10/13/insane-clown-posse-channels-walt-whitman/comment-page-1/#comment-137201</link>
		<dc:creator>davidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean, thanks for having the courage to expose the anti-intellectual demographic who couldn&#039;t even record their infantile thoughts without utilizing magnets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean, thanks for having the courage to expose the anti-intellectual demographic who couldn&#8217;t even record their infantile thoughts without utilizing magnets.</p>
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		<title>By: Per</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/10/13/insane-clown-posse-channels-walt-whitman/comment-page-1/#comment-137187</link>
		<dc:creator>Per</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 15:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I stop reading Cosmicvariance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I stop reading Cosmicvariance.</p>
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		<title>By: ChH</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/10/13/insane-clown-posse-channels-walt-whitman/comment-page-1/#comment-137180</link>
		<dc:creator>ChH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 13:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dafodil sunshine  - sorry - I obviously didn&#039;t see your earlier post until now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dafodil sunshine  &#8211; sorry &#8211; I obviously didn&#8217;t see your earlier post until now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ChH</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/10/13/insane-clown-posse-channels-walt-whitman/comment-page-1/#comment-137176</link>
		<dc:creator>ChH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 12:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I looked through the Guardian article more carefully - ICP never called themselves Christian, and neither &quot;Jesus&quot; or &quot;Christ&quot; appears anywhere in the interview.  ICP merely came out with a generic belief in God - or desire to believe in a God - which could indicate their alignment with any number of world religions.  The label &quot;Christian&quot; - and especially &quot;evangelical Christian&quot; was applied to them by the ignorant or axe-grinding author of the article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I looked through the Guardian article more carefully &#8211; ICP never called themselves Christian, and neither &#8220;Jesus&#8221; or &#8220;Christ&#8221; appears anywhere in the interview.  ICP merely came out with a generic belief in God &#8211; or desire to believe in a God &#8211; which could indicate their alignment with any number of world religions.  The label &#8220;Christian&#8221; &#8211; and especially &#8220;evangelical Christian&#8221; was applied to them by the ignorant or axe-grinding author of the article.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian137</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian137</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 00:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back to Walt Whitman&#039;s poem.  You can view it as a freeze-frame comparison, which prefers the sublime grandeur of the night sky to the astronomer&#039;s lecture.  Then you could justly claim that the poet&#039;s point of view is blind to the value and elegance of science - perhaps ungrateful also.  Although I recognized the viability of such an interpretation, I chose to experience the poem as a succession of feelings rather than attitudes.  

After listening for a while, Whitman felt a boredom, bordering on a pall.  Seeking to feel better, he slipped away to where he felt free, unassailed.  He enjoyed the night air and the beauty of the stars.  I have felt all these emotions: the tedium, the escape, the relief, the contentment.  The work is a river rather than an ice cube.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to Walt Whitman&#8217;s poem.  You can view it as a freeze-frame comparison, which prefers the sublime grandeur of the night sky to the astronomer&#8217;s lecture.  Then you could justly claim that the poet&#8217;s point of view is blind to the value and elegance of science &#8211; perhaps ungrateful also.  Although I recognized the viability of such an interpretation, I chose to experience the poem as a succession of feelings rather than attitudes.  </p>
<p>After listening for a while, Whitman felt a boredom, bordering on a pall.  Seeking to feel better, he slipped away to where he felt free, unassailed.  He enjoyed the night air and the beauty of the stars.  I have felt all these emotions: the tedium, the escape, the relief, the contentment.  The work is a river rather than an ice cube.</p>
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		<title>By: réalta fuar</title>
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		<dc:creator>réalta fuar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee, rappers who are idiots? who would have thunk it ?  move along, nothing to see here.  But a very nice, very cogent Feymann quote  by KWK above, thanks.  oh, and the Whitmann poem has never bothered this astronomer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, rappers who are idiots? who would have thunk it ?  move along, nothing to see here.  But a very nice, very cogent Feymann quote  by KWK above, thanks.  oh, and the Whitmann poem has never bothered this astronomer.</p>
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		<title>By: PJD</title>
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		<dc:creator>PJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 19:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed: Charon, you gave me the best laugh of the day! 
Hey- any REAL musician who fails to understand that music and mathematics are one and the same needs to quit the biz. And those who take musicians who depend on gimmicks to get noticed seriously...well, get a life. Tons of music being made by people who have science minds!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed: Charon, you gave me the best laugh of the day!<br />
Hey- any REAL musician who fails to understand that music and mathematics are one and the same needs to quit the biz. And those who take musicians who depend on gimmicks to get noticed seriously&#8230;well, get a life. Tons of music being made by people who have science minds!</p>
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		<title>By: vel</title>
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		<dc:creator>vel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 18:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one more bunch of childish idiots who glorify ignorance and want to think themselves special snowflakes who have a magical sky daddy that cares about them and only them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one more bunch of childish idiots who glorify ignorance and want to think themselves special snowflakes who have a magical sky daddy that cares about them and only them.</p>
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