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	<title>Comments on: Observing the Multiverse (Guest Post)</title>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/12/22/observing-the-multiverse-guest-post/comment-page-1/#comment-150936</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2011 17:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure why that paper got so much attention.  Part of it is speculative but fairly straightforward, then the part about new universes is just hand-waving.</description>
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		<title>By: Shantanu</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/12/22/observing-the-multiverse-guest-post/comment-page-1/#comment-150922</link>
		<dc:creator>Shantanu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2011 03:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean, Matt and others:
what do you think of http://arxiv.org/abs/1007.0587
Although this has got a lot of press , have not seen any reactions from physicists.
(also don&#039;t think torsion has been explored in cosmological context much)
Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean, Matt and others:<br />
what do you think of <a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/1007.0587" rel="nofollow">http://arxiv.org/abs/1007.0587</a><br />
Although this has got a lot of press , have not seen any reactions from physicists.<br />
(also don&#8217;t think torsion has been explored in cosmological context much)<br />
Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Andy F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 23:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A fascinating post, however, I&#039;m still trying to get my head around this Universe!</description>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/12/22/observing-the-multiverse-guest-post/comment-page-1/#comment-150684</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 21:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never been one to believe in the existence of &quot;only one&quot;.  If one can be created, more must have been created, just like our solar system is not alone within our galaxy, within our universe.

This is pure speculation, but the mystery of the missing antimatter from the Big Bang may be explained by forming a separate antimatter universe in conjunction with ours.  During the period of inflation, the universe expanded much faster than the speed of light. If the two universes; one matter, the other antimatter; were driven apart during the inflationary period, we would not be able to observe the second universe because the light from it would not have reached us. I wonder if there is such a thing as anti-light. There may well be several universes we cannot see or may have seen, but not recognized.

Food for thought - Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never been one to believe in the existence of &#8220;only one&#8221;.  If one can be created, more must have been created, just like our solar system is not alone within our galaxy, within our universe.</p>
<p>This is pure speculation, but the mystery of the missing antimatter from the Big Bang may be explained by forming a separate antimatter universe in conjunction with ours.  During the period of inflation, the universe expanded much faster than the speed of light. If the two universes; one matter, the other antimatter; were driven apart during the inflationary period, we would not be able to observe the second universe because the light from it would not have reached us. I wonder if there is such a thing as anti-light. There may well be several universes we cannot see or may have seen, but not recognized.</p>
<p>Food for thought &#8211; Bill</p>
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		<title>By: Sphere Coupler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sphere Coupler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 14:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if this or other micro-arrangement of past produced patterns is not collision or ejection, perhaps a continuation, or initiation of an unobservable inflationary phenomenon outside of our Universe, yet still in some minor ways connected or...just a pattern. 

Keep looking up and Happy New Year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if this or other micro-arrangement of past produced patterns is not collision or ejection, perhaps a continuation, or initiation of an unobservable inflationary phenomenon outside of our Universe, yet still in some minor ways connected or&#8230;just a pattern. </p>
<p>Keep looking up and Happy New Year.</p>
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		<title>By: Zwirko</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/12/22/observing-the-multiverse-guest-post/comment-page-1/#comment-150308</link>
		<dc:creator>Zwirko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Dec 2010 22:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Non-physicist here: If two such bubbles can collide, does that then mean that these bubbles have a bounding edge (as in the soap bubble analogy)?  Since our universe has no edge in the sense of a brick wall,  does it have one somewhere else?  What type of edge do these bubbles have? What do these bubbles exist within?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Non-physicist here: If two such bubbles can collide, does that then mean that these bubbles have a bounding edge (as in the soap bubble analogy)?  Since our universe has no edge in the sense of a brick wall,  does it have one somewhere else?  What type of edge do these bubbles have? What do these bubbles exist within?</p>
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		<title>By: Bee</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/12/22/observing-the-multiverse-guest-post/comment-page-1/#comment-150101</link>
		<dc:creator>Bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Dec 2010 08:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Matt,
Thanks for the reply. Sure, I understand the let&#039;s just go and look approach. I was just wondering if the parameter range that can be tackled with today&#039;s data is one that&#039;s plausible to expect for such an effect and couldn&#039;t find much on it. See, I&#039;m thinking if it was extremely unlikely that eternal inflation would produce such a signal to begin with, then it&#039;s not much of a constraint, is it? Will check out the paper. Merry Christmas,

B.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Matt,<br />
Thanks for the reply. Sure, I understand the let&#8217;s just go and look approach. I was just wondering if the parameter range that can be tackled with today&#8217;s data is one that&#8217;s plausible to expect for such an effect and couldn&#8217;t find much on it. See, I&#8217;m thinking if it was extremely unlikely that eternal inflation would produce such a signal to begin with, then it&#8217;s not much of a constraint, is it? Will check out the paper. Merry Christmas,</p>
<p>B.</p>
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		<title>By: Vladimir Kalitvianski</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/12/22/observing-the-multiverse-guest-post/comment-page-1/#comment-150023</link>
		<dc:creator>Vladimir Kalitvianski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 21:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, one Universe is not sufficient?</description>
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		<title>By: globalspec</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/12/22/observing-the-multiverse-guest-post/comment-page-1/#comment-150022</link>
		<dc:creator>globalspec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 21:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any ring-like features would be an artifact of an ejection event, not collision.</description>
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		<title>By: Cody</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/12/22/observing-the-multiverse-guest-post/comment-page-1/#comment-150020</link>
		<dc:creator>Cody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 21:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Sean, but what I was trying to say was that I don&#039;t see any good reason to expect variation in our fundamental constants to be allowed. I understand π &lt;i&gt;can&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; be different, nor 1, and I am uncomfortable assuming ε_0 &lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt; be different (though I know current theory leaves ~25 constants to empirical measurement—I just think it more likely there is a deeper mathematical origin we have yet to find; further constraints as you mentioned).

Meaning, if I had to wager whether the constants &lt;i&gt;must&lt;/i&gt; be what they are, or whether they can vary in a grander multiverse, I&#039;d bet &lt;i&gt;against&lt;/i&gt; the latter. But I do see how, at the moment, variation in the fundamental constants is an open question and that my position (searching for a deeper cause for the constants, in say number theory) is stagnant, and also that there are new directions to search for variation (as Matt has described above).

So although I would more naturally side with your option &quot;a&quot;, I can see how option &quot;2&quot; is currently a more active and productive area of research.


Matt, thanks for expanding on the vacuum bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Sean, but what I was trying to say was that I don&#8217;t see any good reason to expect variation in our fundamental constants to be allowed. I understand π <i>can&#8217;t</i> be different, nor 1, and I am uncomfortable assuming ε_0 <i>can</i> be different (though I know current theory leaves ~25 constants to empirical measurement—I just think it more likely there is a deeper mathematical origin we have yet to find; further constraints as you mentioned).</p>
<p>Meaning, if I had to wager whether the constants <i>must</i> be what they are, or whether they can vary in a grander multiverse, I&#8217;d bet <i>against</i> the latter. But I do see how, at the moment, variation in the fundamental constants is an open question and that my position (searching for a deeper cause for the constants, in say number theory) is stagnant, and also that there are new directions to search for variation (as Matt has described above).</p>
<p>So although I would more naturally side with your option &#8220;a&#8221;, I can see how option &#8220;2&#8243; is currently a more active and productive area of research.</p>
<p>Matt, thanks for expanding on the vacuum bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 20:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Multiverse &#039;physics&#039; is NOT science. That is an absolute fact and an absolute waste of some great minds.</description>
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		<title>By: Matt Johnson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/12/22/observing-the-multiverse-guest-post/comment-page-1/#comment-150002</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 17:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Giotis - I&#039;d love it if such a vacuum selection principle existed. However, at this point, I don&#039;t think there is one. Working with what we know about string theory, the eternal inflation scenario can plausibly be realized. That is good enough motivation in my opinion to explore these ideas in the context of string theory (additionally, you don&#039;t need string theory for eternal inflation, so this is an interesting phenomenon in its own right). However, one should certainly keep an open mind for what other possibilities might exist.

Cody - In the context of string theory, the many ``vacua&quot; I am referring to arise from the many ways one can imagine hiding the extra dimensions predicted by string theory. This is typically accomplished by compactifying the extra dimensions. The shape and size of the compactified extra dimensions  (along with other ingredients like branes, etc) determines the properties of the four-dimensional physics we know and love. So, for every shape and size, one obtains a different set of physical constants (like the planck scale, vacuum energy, etc), and perhaps a different set of interactions (perhaps there is another force in other vacua on top of the four we observe in our own universe).

Aaron - The CMB is certainly anisotropic. One typically characterizes the statistics of these anisotropies in terms of the power spectrum (and higher point correlation functions). Tests have been applied to determine if there is any variation on the sky in these statistics, yielding some evidence for statistical anisotropy. However, if one is looking for a local fluctuation in the temperature of the CMB of a very specific form (as we were), these types of statistics are typically not the most useful thing to look at. Indeed, many things could be buried in the data which would, say,  yield a negligible ``bump&quot; in the power spectrum compared to experimental errors and cosmic variance (ie the small sample size of large-scale modes). This perhaps gets at the sentence you wanted to see in our paper: Before doing our analysis, we can rule out features in the data with an amplitude much larger than the characteristic amplitude of features set by the power spectrum (around 10^{-4} kelvin or so), or other measured statistical properties of the CMB. 

Peter - We comment briefly on how one can obtain a ``sigma&quot; from the Bayesian evidence ratio in the longer paper (see the discussion near Eq. 28). There are various assumptions made in doing so, but very roughly, you can interpret our results as near 3-sigma.

Bee - The probability that we 1) have a bubble collision in our past and 2) it yields a signal strength consistent with current data, is highly uncertain. It could very well be negligible. For detailed discussion of these issues, you can check out the review paper I wrote with Anthony Aguirre (arXiv:0908.4105). What previous work has shown is that the criteria for observing bubble collisions can be satisfied in some cases. Without a more detailed picture of, say, the string theory landscape, it is difficult to ascertain the theoretical prior on what to expect. Nevertheless, we have the data, some idea of what the signature of bubble collisions should look like, and some theories where we expect to see them, so our philosophy was: they might be there, so why not go look?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giotis &#8211; I&#8217;d love it if such a vacuum selection principle existed. However, at this point, I don&#8217;t think there is one. Working with what we know about string theory, the eternal inflation scenario can plausibly be realized. That is good enough motivation in my opinion to explore these ideas in the context of string theory (additionally, you don&#8217;t need string theory for eternal inflation, so this is an interesting phenomenon in its own right). However, one should certainly keep an open mind for what other possibilities might exist.</p>
<p>Cody &#8211; In the context of string theory, the many &#8220;vacua&#8221; I am referring to arise from the many ways one can imagine hiding the extra dimensions predicted by string theory. This is typically accomplished by compactifying the extra dimensions. The shape and size of the compactified extra dimensions  (along with other ingredients like branes, etc) determines the properties of the four-dimensional physics we know and love. So, for every shape and size, one obtains a different set of physical constants (like the planck scale, vacuum energy, etc), and perhaps a different set of interactions (perhaps there is another force in other vacua on top of the four we observe in our own universe).</p>
<p>Aaron &#8211; The CMB is certainly anisotropic. One typically characterizes the statistics of these anisotropies in terms of the power spectrum (and higher point correlation functions). Tests have been applied to determine if there is any variation on the sky in these statistics, yielding some evidence for statistical anisotropy. However, if one is looking for a local fluctuation in the temperature of the CMB of a very specific form (as we were), these types of statistics are typically not the most useful thing to look at. Indeed, many things could be buried in the data which would, say,  yield a negligible &#8220;bump&#8221; in the power spectrum compared to experimental errors and cosmic variance (ie the small sample size of large-scale modes). This perhaps gets at the sentence you wanted to see in our paper: Before doing our analysis, we can rule out features in the data with an amplitude much larger than the characteristic amplitude of features set by the power spectrum (around 10^{-4} kelvin or so), or other measured statistical properties of the CMB. </p>
<p>Peter &#8211; We comment briefly on how one can obtain a &#8220;sigma&#8221; from the Bayesian evidence ratio in the longer paper (see the discussion near Eq. 28). There are various assumptions made in doing so, but very roughly, you can interpret our results as near 3-sigma.</p>
<p>Bee &#8211; The probability that we 1) have a bubble collision in our past and 2) it yields a signal strength consistent with current data, is highly uncertain. It could very well be negligible. For detailed discussion of these issues, you can check out the review paper I wrote with Anthony Aguirre (arXiv:0908.4105). What previous work has shown is that the criteria for observing bubble collisions can be satisfied in some cases. Without a more detailed picture of, say, the string theory landscape, it is difficult to ascertain the theoretical prior on what to expect. Nevertheless, we have the data, some idea of what the signature of bubble collisions should look like, and some theories where we expect to see them, so our philosophy was: they might be there, so why not go look?</p>
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		<title>By: AI</title>
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		<dc:creator>AI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 16:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a lovely theory (whose experimental support is as strong as that for superstrings) and it predicts that when god was creating the universe some of the angels were so dazzled by his awesome power that they collided, and guess what, those collisions left certain signatures in CMB (the precise type of signature depends on the type of angel). 

Now all I need to do is find those signatures in CMB, and everyone will have to accept my theory, right? RIGHT?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a lovely theory (whose experimental support is as strong as that for superstrings) and it predicts that when god was creating the universe some of the angels were so dazzled by his awesome power that they collided, and guess what, those collisions left certain signatures in CMB (the precise type of signature depends on the type of angel). </p>
<p>Now all I need to do is find those signatures in CMB, and everyone will have to accept my theory, right? RIGHT?</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Peters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Peters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 12:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Cody: The thing is that pi and, say, epsilon-naught (aka the permittivity of free space - damn the lack of an epsilon key!) really are different. The value of pi jumps out of math and can&#039;t be a different value - if the state legislature were to define pi as 22/7, math would stop working. Pi can no more take on different values than 1 can. On the other hand, the value for permittivity and many other fundamental constants are not something you can solve for - you have to measure them. And physics would still work perfectly fine if they had different values. Of course, the nature of the universe would change quite a bit, but you wouldn&#039;t break physics if the values of these constants changed. 

So the question then becomes: why these particular values and not others? With most aspects of nature, everything not mandatory is forbidden: in other words, if a certain variation in a property is allowed, we expect to see the variation. If we don&#039;t see the variation, we begin to suspect that such variation is not, in fact, allowed. So given that we have these fundamental &quot;constants&quot; that could really be parameters, we&#039;re driven to find out whether there&#039;s a) some constraining rule that we&#039;re missing, or 2) look for somewhere where the values are different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Cody: The thing is that pi and, say, epsilon-naught (aka the permittivity of free space &#8211; damn the lack of an epsilon key!) really are different. The value of pi jumps out of math and can&#8217;t be a different value &#8211; if the state legislature were to define pi as 22/7, math would stop working. Pi can no more take on different values than 1 can. On the other hand, the value for permittivity and many other fundamental constants are not something you can solve for &#8211; you have to measure them. And physics would still work perfectly fine if they had different values. Of course, the nature of the universe would change quite a bit, but you wouldn&#8217;t break physics if the values of these constants changed. </p>
<p>So the question then becomes: why these particular values and not others? With most aspects of nature, everything not mandatory is forbidden: in other words, if a certain variation in a property is allowed, we expect to see the variation. If we don&#8217;t see the variation, we begin to suspect that such variation is not, in fact, allowed. So given that we have these fundamental &#8220;constants&#8221; that could really be parameters, we&#8217;re driven to find out whether there&#8217;s a) some constraining rule that we&#8217;re missing, or 2) look for somewhere where the values are different.</p>
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		<title>By: Bee</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/12/22/observing-the-multiverse-guest-post/comment-page-1/#comment-149934</link>
		<dc:creator>Bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 07:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Matt,

Thanks for taking the time to blog. I&#039;m still wondering how plausible is it to expect a signal in the suitable parameter range to begin with? Is there some range of parameters that would seem natural? Best,

B.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Matt,</p>
<p>Thanks for taking the time to blog. I&#8217;m still wondering how plausible is it to expect a signal in the suitable parameter range to begin with? Is there some range of parameters that would seem natural? Best,</p>
<p>B.</p>
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		<title>By: kiwidamien</title>
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		<dc:creator>kiwidamien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 07:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron (@6 &amp; 7)

I am not quite sure what you mean... when WMAP released its first dataset it showed variation at the level of 10^{-5}. The period from discovery (~1960) to mid-1980s there was no evidence for non-uniformity in the CMB as measurements were not good enough. BOOMERANG, MAXIMA and taco were the first experiments to see deviations from uniformity. 

The Planck or Wmap papers would be a good place to start looking. If you meant non-gaussianty rather than non-uniformity then we are still waiting for a verdict.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron (@6 &amp; 7)</p>
<p>I am not quite sure what you mean&#8230; when WMAP released its first dataset it showed variation at the level of 10^{-5}. The period from discovery (~1960) to mid-1980s there was no evidence for non-uniformity in the CMB as measurements were not good enough. BOOMERANG, MAXIMA and taco were the first experiments to see deviations from uniformity. </p>
<p>The Planck or Wmap papers would be a good place to start looking. If you meant non-gaussianty rather than non-uniformity then we are still waiting for a verdict.</p>
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		<title>By: Gas Bubble</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/12/22/observing-the-multiverse-guest-post/comment-page-1/#comment-149856</link>
		<dc:creator>Gas Bubble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 02:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1usULrz8Qs0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1usULrz8Qs0</a></p>
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		<title>By: Peter Woit</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/12/22/observing-the-multiverse-guest-post/comment-page-1/#comment-149829</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Woit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 23:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there any way to restate the statistical significance of these results in the way this is conventionally done in particle physics experiments?  In other words, can your results be interpreted as a three-sigma &quot;observation&quot; of a bubble-collision from another universe, or as a five-sigma &quot;discovery&quot; of such a thing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any way to restate the statistical significance of these results in the way this is conventionally done in particle physics experiments?  In other words, can your results be interpreted as a three-sigma &#8220;observation&#8221; of a bubble-collision from another universe, or as a five-sigma &#8220;discovery&#8221; of such a thing?</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Sheldon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/12/22/observing-the-multiverse-guest-post/comment-page-1/#comment-149814</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Sheldon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 22:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay I just realized I&#039;m not completely clear on what I would have like to have seen in the arXiv articles. So specifically in the introduction I would have like to have seen a sentence something like:

Previous tests for non-uniformity in the WMAP dataset statistically eliminate effect sizes greater than or equal to X at a significance of Y (insert citations), this leave open the possibility of detecting non-uniformities of characteristic angular size Z and temperature variation T or smaller, this paper analyzes ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay I just realized I&#8217;m not completely clear on what I would have like to have seen in the arXiv articles. So specifically in the introduction I would have like to have seen a sentence something like:</p>
<p>Previous tests for non-uniformity in the WMAP dataset statistically eliminate effect sizes greater than or equal to X at a significance of Y (insert citations), this leave open the possibility of detecting non-uniformities of characteristic angular size Z and temperature variation T or smaller, this paper analyzes &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Sheldon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/12/22/observing-the-multiverse-guest-post/comment-page-1/#comment-149811</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Sheldon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 22:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before proceeding to the characterization of non-uniform CMB features, could you please first statistically eliminate the hypothesis that the CMB is uniform.

Until the hypothesis that the CMB is uniform has been statistically demonstrated to be false, other inferences and hypotheses are moot.

There are many statistical tests for non-randomness, especially in the cryptography and random number generation literature (e.g. information entropy measures), I would hope some of them would be applied to the CMB data to first test the hypothesis of uniformity; before proceeding to characterizing the non-uniformity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before proceeding to the characterization of non-uniform CMB features, could you please first statistically eliminate the hypothesis that the CMB is uniform.</p>
<p>Until the hypothesis that the CMB is uniform has been statistically demonstrated to be false, other inferences and hypotheses are moot.</p>
<p>There are many statistical tests for non-randomness, especially in the cryptography and random number generation literature (e.g. information entropy measures), I would hope some of them would be applied to the CMB data to first test the hypothesis of uniformity; before proceeding to characterizing the non-uniformity.</p>
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