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		<title>By: Rohan Mehra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rohan Mehra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 08:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see a problem with people altering public domain works at all.
In many ways it&#039;s like the open-source software movement.
As long as changes are acknowledged somehow (perhaps in a foreword or disclaimer) then it should not be an issue.
People are free to choose which version of the text they buy.

(On a personal level however, I do also find it petty and pedantic, let history speak for itself!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see a problem with people altering public domain works at all.<br />
In many ways it&#8217;s like the open-source software movement.<br />
As long as changes are acknowledged somehow (perhaps in a foreword or disclaimer) then it should not be an issue.<br />
People are free to choose which version of the text they buy.</p>
<p>(On a personal level however, I do also find it petty and pedantic, let history speak for itself!)</p>
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		<title>By: ray</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/01/06/bad-words/comment-page-1/#comment-151415</link>
		<dc:creator>ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 01:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The association and use of a word change with time and &#039;nigger&#039; in Twain&#039;s day was considered descriptive rather than demeaning.  Anything which has connotations we wish to avoid is given a euphemism, which eventually acquires the negativity and is replaced by another euphemism, ad nauseum. In 1950, &#039;nigger&#039; was taboo but &#039;negro&#039; or &#039;black&#039; was okay. &quot;Colored&#039; was sometimes heard, but was sometimes considered condescening.  
(Heck, I&#039;m colored too - I&#039;m pink).  &quot;Afro-American&quot; didn&#039;t get much traction until until the 1960s.  What will it be in 2020?

My grandmother (b. 1870) used the term &#039;&#039;darkie&#039; which was common in Ohio in 1880 but would be considered taboo and condescending today, yet she hadn&#039;t a  racist bone in her body.  When a new hotel opened in my home town in 1884, the waiters and maids - all Negro - arrived in town with great fanfare and greeted the press with a impromptu rendition of &quot;New Coon In Town&quot;. Try that today.

I recall an old Lakota who felt &quot; Native American&quot; unfairly omitted most of of us - he figured if you&#039;re born here, you&#039;re a native American.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The association and use of a word change with time and &#8216;nigger&#8217; in Twain&#8217;s day was considered descriptive rather than demeaning.  Anything which has connotations we wish to avoid is given a euphemism, which eventually acquires the negativity and is replaced by another euphemism, ad nauseum. In 1950, &#8216;nigger&#8217; was taboo but &#8216;negro&#8217; or &#8216;black&#8217; was okay. &#8220;Colored&#8217; was sometimes heard, but was sometimes considered condescening.<br />
(Heck, I&#8217;m colored too &#8211; I&#8217;m pink).  &#8220;Afro-American&#8221; didn&#8217;t get much traction until until the 1960s.  What will it be in 2020?</p>
<p>My grandmother (b. 1870) used the term &#8221;darkie&#8217; which was common in Ohio in 1880 but would be considered taboo and condescending today, yet she hadn&#8217;t a  racist bone in her body.  When a new hotel opened in my home town in 1884, the waiters and maids &#8211; all Negro &#8211; arrived in town with great fanfare and greeted the press with a impromptu rendition of &#8220;New Coon In Town&#8221;. Try that today.</p>
<p>I recall an old Lakota who felt &#8221; Native American&#8221; unfairly omitted most of of us &#8211; he figured if you&#8217;re born here, you&#8217;re a native American.</p>
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		<title>By: nick anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 23:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who has read Huckleberry Finn should realize that Twain used the word &quot;nigger&quot; to show how absurd the stereotype is!  It is one of the most powerful anti-racist books ever written.  That is one of the reasons it was controversial and banned in many libraries and schools shortly after it was  first published!  I cannot remember the name of the black literary professor who I heard on NPR several years ago who said he frequently travels all over the country to appear before local school boards who want to ban the book to tell them they have it all wrong,  however well intentioned they think they are. The irony is that many readers got the anti-racist message back then and objected, and many today do not and therefore object for the opposite reason.  No &quot;historical context&quot; is really needed, only good literary discussion and sensitive guidance from teachers at the middle or high school level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who has read Huckleberry Finn should realize that Twain used the word &#8220;nigger&#8221; to show how absurd the stereotype is!  It is one of the most powerful anti-racist books ever written.  That is one of the reasons it was controversial and banned in many libraries and schools shortly after it was  first published!  I cannot remember the name of the black literary professor who I heard on NPR several years ago who said he frequently travels all over the country to appear before local school boards who want to ban the book to tell them they have it all wrong,  however well intentioned they think they are. The irony is that many readers got the anti-racist message back then and objected, and many today do not and therefore object for the opposite reason.  No &#8220;historical context&#8221; is really needed, only good literary discussion and sensitive guidance from teachers at the middle or high school level.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/01/06/bad-words/comment-page-1/#comment-151389</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 20:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>psmith,

It&#039;s often easier to point out a false dichotomy than it is to figure out what appropriate actions should be taken in a particular situation -- but thanks.

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>psmith,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s often easier to point out a false dichotomy than it is to figure out what appropriate actions should be taken in a particular situation &#8212; but thanks.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: psmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>psmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 17:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mike, well spotted. I accept that any problem statement in the form of either ... or ... is often a false dichotomy (embarrassed grin).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike, well spotted. I accept that any problem statement in the form of either &#8230; or &#8230; is often a false dichotomy (embarrassed grin).</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 15:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Actions to help the recovery from a deep injustice or respecting the accuracy of a text?&quot;

Ah, the tyranny of the &#039;or&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Actions to help the recovery from a deep injustice or respecting the accuracy of a text?&#8221;</p>
<p>Ah, the tyranny of the &#8216;or&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Somebody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Somebody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 13:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing of substance to add. Just picking nits: &quot;bowlderize&quot; should be &quot;bowdlerize&quot;. No?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing of substance to add. Just picking nits: &#8220;bowlderize&#8221; should be &#8220;bowdlerize&#8221;. No?</p>
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		<title>By: psmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>psmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 08:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@#4, Alan McDonald, thanks for that link. I thought that summed it up well.
@#15, réalta fuar, you say 
&lt;i&gt;I suspect that very few black students are actually upset by the use of “that” word&lt;/i&gt;. 

You entirely underestimate the depth of pain caused by racism. This is a hurt that will take a long time to subside. Every insensitive remark or behaviour stirs it back into life and prolongs the healing process.
We help the healing process when we take affirmative measures to respect the hurts caused by racism.
It comes down to a simple equation, which is more important? Actions to help the recovery from a deep injustice or respecting the accuracy of a text?
Having lived for a long time in a deeply racist country I can appreciate the importance of respecting racial sensitivities in every little way as an important way in which I can contribute to the healing process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@#4, Alan McDonald, thanks for that link. I thought that summed it up well.<br />
@#15, réalta fuar, you say<br />
<i>I suspect that very few black students are actually upset by the use of “that” word</i>. </p>
<p>You entirely underestimate the depth of pain caused by racism. This is a hurt that will take a long time to subside. Every insensitive remark or behaviour stirs it back into life and prolongs the healing process.<br />
We help the healing process when we take affirmative measures to respect the hurts caused by racism.<br />
It comes down to a simple equation, which is more important? Actions to help the recovery from a deep injustice or respecting the accuracy of a text?<br />
Having lived for a long time in a deeply racist country I can appreciate the importance of respecting racial sensitivities in every little way as an important way in which I can contribute to the healing process.</p>
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		<title>By: jonesing</title>
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		<dc:creator>jonesing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 04:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moshe gets it right with respect to changing connotations and usage when it comes to the &quot;n&quot; word. It&#039;s a much more loaded term now than it was in Twain&#039;s day when it was regarded as a culturally appropriate term for people of color in some circles.

How does Sean know that replacing the &quot;n&quot; word with a more culturally appropriate term would be &quot;massively unfair&quot; to Twain? I have a feeling that if Twain was aware how the term has morphed over time and understood the political/cultural sensitivities surrounding it today, he would likely give some thought to the issue... perhaps even agree to a less inflammatory term. Like most authors, rather than holding out for a &quot;must word&quot; he would likely be more keen to have his work widely read. Editing of texts/editions goes on all the time. 

The term &quot;slave&quot; could be used along with a footnote stating plainly what the original term was. An explanation for the decision could also be included in a preface for example. That way students would &#039;get it&#039; without having to read the &quot;n&quot; word in racially mixed classroom settings. Sure it&#039;s nice to think that kids would be able to neatly slot it all into historical perspective and be culturally hip about it, but I&#039;m afraid that is rather naive given the incendiary nature of the word and the type of emotion it stirs up. 

réalta fuar says that &quot;few black students are actually upset by the use of “that” word&quot;... hmm, depends on the circumstances and who is using it. Depends also on the reception, and you can be sure the presence of the word in Huck Finn would provoke reactions in the classroom. 

The impatience with PC attitudes can unfortunately become a knee-jerk tendency across-the-board if there is any perceived move to sanitize.  On the whole censorship is a lousy idea, but there are cases such as this where the benefits of making the book widely accessible outweigh the value of retaining &quot;that word&quot; at all costs within the main body of the text. Contrary to a few commentators above, I don&#039;t believe that such a modification would radically compromise the power of Twain&#039;s message. As with most things, there just needs to be a little flexibility and common sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moshe gets it right with respect to changing connotations and usage when it comes to the &#8220;n&#8221; word. It&#8217;s a much more loaded term now than it was in Twain&#8217;s day when it was regarded as a culturally appropriate term for people of color in some circles.</p>
<p>How does Sean know that replacing the &#8220;n&#8221; word with a more culturally appropriate term would be &#8220;massively unfair&#8221; to Twain? I have a feeling that if Twain was aware how the term has morphed over time and understood the political/cultural sensitivities surrounding it today, he would likely give some thought to the issue&#8230; perhaps even agree to a less inflammatory term. Like most authors, rather than holding out for a &#8220;must word&#8221; he would likely be more keen to have his work widely read. Editing of texts/editions goes on all the time. </p>
<p>The term &#8220;slave&#8221; could be used along with a footnote stating plainly what the original term was. An explanation for the decision could also be included in a preface for example. That way students would &#8216;get it&#8217; without having to read the &#8220;n&#8221; word in racially mixed classroom settings. Sure it&#8217;s nice to think that kids would be able to neatly slot it all into historical perspective and be culturally hip about it, but I&#8217;m afraid that is rather naive given the incendiary nature of the word and the type of emotion it stirs up. </p>
<p>réalta fuar says that &#8220;few black students are actually upset by the use of “that” word&#8221;&#8230; hmm, depends on the circumstances and who is using it. Depends also on the reception, and you can be sure the presence of the word in Huck Finn would provoke reactions in the classroom. </p>
<p>The impatience with PC attitudes can unfortunately become a knee-jerk tendency across-the-board if there is any perceived move to sanitize.  On the whole censorship is a lousy idea, but there are cases such as this where the benefits of making the book widely accessible outweigh the value of retaining &#8220;that word&#8221; at all costs within the main body of the text. Contrary to a few commentators above, I don&#8217;t believe that such a modification would radically compromise the power of Twain&#8217;s message. As with most things, there just needs to be a little flexibility and common sense.</p>
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		<title>By: réalta fuar</title>
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		<dc:creator>réalta fuar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 01:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect that very few black students are actually upset by the use of &quot;that&quot; word.  At least no more upset than Twain intended everyone of any decency to  be  by his deliberate use of exactly the language he wanted.  To censor what this reader believes is the finest American novel ever written is worse than a travesty, it&#039;s criminal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect that very few black students are actually upset by the use of &#8220;that&#8221; word.  At least no more upset than Twain intended everyone of any decency to  be  by his deliberate use of exactly the language he wanted.  To censor what this reader believes is the finest American novel ever written is worse than a travesty, it&#8217;s criminal.</p>
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		<title>By: spyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>spyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 22:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We Americans are a nation of sanitary bumpkins.  This constant striving to sanitize all of our lives--to make convenience the operative watchword of the now--is a path of self-ridicule that is only matched by the blatant hypocrisy that is present.  Clean up our books and language so we won&#039;t have to think about stuff.  Clean up movies and tv so we won&#039;t have to think about stuff.  But, leave our personal stuff alone (we currently have a number one movie based on the implied misuse of the word &quot;Fockers?&quot;).  I can&#039;t remember the French philosopher&#039;s name from an essay i read many years ago, but he argued that countries  (the world in the 1890s) could be described by rooms in a house, and the US was most certainly the bathroom.  Changing Mark Twain is more a matter of getting the right toilet paper, than it is a matter of actual thinking.  Shame is too nice a phrase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We Americans are a nation of sanitary bumpkins.  This constant striving to sanitize all of our lives&#8211;to make convenience the operative watchword of the now&#8211;is a path of self-ridicule that is only matched by the blatant hypocrisy that is present.  Clean up our books and language so we won&#8217;t have to think about stuff.  Clean up movies and tv so we won&#8217;t have to think about stuff.  But, leave our personal stuff alone (we currently have a number one movie based on the implied misuse of the word &#8220;Fockers?&#8221;).  I can&#8217;t remember the French philosopher&#8217;s name from an essay i read many years ago, but he argued that countries  (the world in the 1890s) could be described by rooms in a house, and the US was most certainly the bathroom.  Changing Mark Twain is more a matter of getting the right toilet paper, than it is a matter of actual thinking.  Shame is too nice a phrase.</p>
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		<title>By: Toivo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toivo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 22:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My understanding was that the problem isn&#039;t just that students are upset, but that counties, states and schools ban the books outright so teachers don&#039;t have the option of using the books, or students the option of reading the book at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My understanding was that the problem isn&#8217;t just that students are upset, but that counties, states and schools ban the books outright so teachers don&#8217;t have the option of using the books, or students the option of reading the book at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Moshe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moshe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 19:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually have the opposite impulse. There is nothing wrong with reading literature in translation, as long as it is true to the original (of course, it may not be). You can contemplate translating from e.g. contemporary French to contemporary English, or similarly from 19th century English to 21st century English. 

Thinking about it this way, the question is whether a more faithful translation is to preserve the combination of letters (or sounds) of the original, or do we want to  preserve a deeper meaning of the work. In my mind, translating 19th century &quot;nigger&quot; to 21st century &quot;nigger&quot; may not be a particularly good translation, as the connotations the word acquired since Mark Twain&#039;s time deforms the original meaning of the word. 

Editing for content, which is oftentimes also unpleasant, is a different story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually have the opposite impulse. There is nothing wrong with reading literature in translation, as long as it is true to the original (of course, it may not be). You can contemplate translating from e.g. contemporary French to contemporary English, or similarly from 19th century English to 21st century English. </p>
<p>Thinking about it this way, the question is whether a more faithful translation is to preserve the combination of letters (or sounds) of the original, or do we want to  preserve a deeper meaning of the work. In my mind, translating 19th century &#8220;nigger&#8221; to 21st century &#8220;nigger&#8221; may not be a particularly good translation, as the connotations the word acquired since Mark Twain&#8217;s time deforms the original meaning of the word. </p>
<p>Editing for content, which is oftentimes also unpleasant, is a different story.</p>
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		<title>By: Sha-Ron Rhodes Cassel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sha-Ron Rhodes Cassel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 19:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On what precipice do we now stand in relation to George Orwell’s “1984”?  Protagonist Winston Smith works for the “Ministry of Truth”, which revises historical records in order to make the Party omniscient and always correct.  Mind control disguised as temperance for the better good is still mind control.  With such behavior, we stand the chance of misinformation becoming fact.  

I clicked the additional link (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tomchivers/100050346/mark-twain-huckleberry-finn-and-nigger-jim-sense-or-censorship/) and was moved by its attempt to get people to read the book in the first place.  I’m an African-American born in Alabama and have not changed my stance that this is a hugely dumb move.  Yes, it’s painful to read. But, isn’t that partly the point.  Discomfort stirs you to move.  Let today’s youth read the book in it original, raw form and obtain some sort of reaction to engage in society and make sure that things are never that bad again. Cleansing this gem will keep their minds submerged in the stagnant water of apathy in which this generation dwells.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On what precipice do we now stand in relation to George Orwell’s “1984”?  Protagonist Winston Smith works for the “Ministry of Truth”, which revises historical records in order to make the Party omniscient and always correct.  Mind control disguised as temperance for the better good is still mind control.  With such behavior, we stand the chance of misinformation becoming fact.  </p>
<p>I clicked the additional link (<a href="http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tomchivers/100050346/mark-twain-huckleberry-finn-and-nigger-jim-sense-or-censorship/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tomchivers/100050346/mark-twain-huckleberry-finn-and-nigger-jim-sense-or-censorship/</a>) and was moved by its attempt to get people to read the book in the first place.  I’m an African-American born in Alabama and have not changed my stance that this is a hugely dumb move.  Yes, it’s painful to read. But, isn’t that partly the point.  Discomfort stirs you to move.  Let today’s youth read the book in it original, raw form and obtain some sort of reaction to engage in society and make sure that things are never that bad again. Cleansing this gem will keep their minds submerged in the stagnant water of apathy in which this generation dwells.</p>
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		<title>By: bystander</title>
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		<dc:creator>bystander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 19:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I can see why blacks might consider &quot;nigger&quot; to be offensive, I find their vehemence hypocritical. Anybody who has spent time around blacks, especially younger ones, knows that they use it themselves incessantly. It is even used as an offhand term of endearment. To get upset about its use in a period classic is just ridiculous. Mr. Clemens, after all, was raising awareness of the plight of slaves in the deep South during the 1860s. I think they should praise the work not denounce it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I can see why blacks might consider &#8220;nigger&#8221; to be offensive, I find their vehemence hypocritical. Anybody who has spent time around blacks, especially younger ones, knows that they use it themselves incessantly. It is even used as an offhand term of endearment. To get upset about its use in a period classic is just ridiculous. Mr. Clemens, after all, was raising awareness of the plight of slaves in the deep South during the 1860s. I think they should praise the work not denounce it.</p>
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		<title>By: Devon Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devon Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 19:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is ridiculous. That book sheds a little light on the idiocy of how African-American&#039;s &amp; American Indians were treated at the time. Removing the n-word and &quot;injun&quot; (altho I think injun is just an accent and not a slur?), removes the power of the idiocy. If you don&#039;t see the stupidity of how they treated them, you lose out on learning why racism is wrong. So if they&#039;re starting to hide it, they&#039;ll forget it, they&#039;ll never teach it, and then the next generation will be doomed to repeat the history we learned from.

It also reminds me of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_images_in_the_Soviet_Union&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Soviet&#039;s trying to censor their history&lt;/a&gt;. I don&#039;t see it as any different &#039;cause the principle&#039;s the same. 

Also ... what are they going to do with Uncle Tom&#039;s Cabin when they read it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is ridiculous. That book sheds a little light on the idiocy of how African-American&#8217;s &amp; American Indians were treated at the time. Removing the n-word and &#8220;injun&#8221; (altho I think injun is just an accent and not a slur?), removes the power of the idiocy. If you don&#8217;t see the stupidity of how they treated them, you lose out on learning why racism is wrong. So if they&#8217;re starting to hide it, they&#8217;ll forget it, they&#8217;ll never teach it, and then the next generation will be doomed to repeat the history we learned from.</p>
<p>It also reminds me of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_images_in_the_Soviet_Union" rel="nofollow">Soviet&#8217;s trying to censor their history</a>. I don&#8217;t see it as any different &#8217;cause the principle&#8217;s the same. </p>
<p>Also &#8230; what are they going to do with Uncle Tom&#8217;s Cabin when they read it?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 19:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Censorship of such a fantastic and insightful look into this nation&#039;s past is probably one of the stupidest ideas we&#039;ve had to date.

sarcasm
Of course, I wouldn&#039;t mind a bit if the powers that be decided to ban and burn all copies of A Tale of Two Cities. No person should ever have that atrocity as &#039;required reading&#039;...
/sarcasm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Censorship of such a fantastic and insightful look into this nation&#8217;s past is probably one of the stupidest ideas we&#8217;ve had to date.</p>
<p>sarcasm<br />
Of course, I wouldn&#8217;t mind a bit if the powers that be decided to ban and burn all copies of A Tale of Two Cities. No person should ever have that atrocity as &#8216;required reading&#8217;&#8230;<br />
/sarcasm</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Schmidt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 18:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we as a people let this kind of thing go and do not protest it then what is next? Will we say that a book is bad or sends the wrong message and have it burned or may be the writer. Does that also put free speech in jeopardy because we may offend some person or group? That word has been used rightly or wrongly for a long time and is still in use today by some, that does not mean that it should be only that it is. We cannot sanitize life and still have it worth living and sometimes being made to feel uncomfortable is not a bad thing that is life, just move on and get past it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we as a people let this kind of thing go and do not protest it then what is next? Will we say that a book is bad or sends the wrong message and have it burned or may be the writer. Does that also put free speech in jeopardy because we may offend some person or group? That word has been used rightly or wrongly for a long time and is still in use today by some, that does not mean that it should be only that it is. We cannot sanitize life and still have it worth living and sometimes being made to feel uncomfortable is not a bad thing that is life, just move on and get past it.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 18:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Changing words is more of a translation device, IMHO.  Label the book as a translation and let students know that the original has offensive language ... I bet they flock to read the original!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Changing words is more of a translation device, IMHO.  Label the book as a translation and let students know that the original has offensive language &#8230; I bet they flock to read the original!</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Helbig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phillip Helbig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 18:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This raises the following question concerning this and all works in the public domain: Since no-one holds the copyright, no-one can object on that basis.  But does this mean that one can edit any work to taste and offer it to the public?  If so, is it required to announce the editing in any way?

A different situation since he holds the copyright, but note that Steven Spielberg changed some things in a new edition of &lt;I&gt;ET&lt;/I&gt; to make them more politically correct.

When will we see a no-smoking version of, say, Casablanca?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This raises the following question concerning this and all works in the public domain: Since no-one holds the copyright, no-one can object on that basis.  But does this mean that one can edit any work to taste and offer it to the public?  If so, is it required to announce the editing in any way?</p>
<p>A different situation since he holds the copyright, but note that Steven Spielberg changed some things in a new edition of <i>ET</i> to make them more politically correct.</p>
<p>When will we see a no-smoking version of, say, Casablanca?</p>
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