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	<title>Comments on: NASA Gives Up on LISA</title>
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		<title>By: Was ist uns Grundlagenforschung wert? &#124; toumai`s banana-blog</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/04/06/nasa-gives-up-on-lisa/comment-page-1/#comment-161572</link>
		<dc:creator>Was ist uns Grundlagenforschung wert? &#124; toumai`s banana-blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 12:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] es dabei wieder die Forschung; ganz speziell die Grundlagenforschung. Dazu gehört zum Beispiel das LISA-Experiment (Laser Interferometer Space Antenna) bei dem mit speziellen Satelliten im Weltall nach Gravitationswellen gesucht werden soll. Aber auch [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] es dabei wieder die Forschung; ganz speziell die Grundlagenforschung. Dazu gehört zum Beispiel das LISA-Experiment (Laser Interferometer Space Antenna) bei dem mit speziellen Satelliten im Weltall nach Gravitationswellen gesucht werden soll. Aber auch [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Donkey Hoteee</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/04/06/nasa-gives-up-on-lisa/comment-page-1/#comment-161423</link>
		<dc:creator>Donkey Hoteee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2011 16:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just as I was thinking we might really do something new and significant ... another sign of America&#039;s decline slaps me in the face.

LISA won&#039;t go away, it&#039;s too important to science and our future. It will just go elsewhere; to other countries and private contractors, (maybe even American ones, but that&#039;s probably too much to hope for).

I hope all you extremely wealthy Americans are thoroughly enjoying those beautiful homes, private jets, fancy cars, massages, gourmet meals and other perks that the Bush tax cuts and a total lack of fiscal restraint and regulatory oversight have helped to finance.

I&#039;ve lost all respect for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just as I was thinking we might really do something new and significant &#8230; another sign of America&#8217;s decline slaps me in the face.</p>
<p>LISA won&#8217;t go away, it&#8217;s too important to science and our future. It will just go elsewhere; to other countries and private contractors, (maybe even American ones, but that&#8217;s probably too much to hope for).</p>
<p>I hope all you extremely wealthy Americans are thoroughly enjoying those beautiful homes, private jets, fancy cars, massages, gourmet meals and other perks that the Bush tax cuts and a total lack of fiscal restraint and regulatory oversight have helped to finance.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve lost all respect for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Exploring Time Travel, UFO&#039;s And AntiGravity - Just another nuspc.com Sites site &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Citing Cost, NASA Bows Out Of Two Astrophysics Projects, Including Building the Largest Scientific Instrument Ever</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/04/06/nasa-gives-up-on-lisa/comment-page-1/#comment-159699</link>
		<dc:creator>Exploring Time Travel, UFO&#039;s And AntiGravity - Just another nuspc.com Sites site &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Citing Cost, NASA Bows Out Of Two Astrophysics Projects, Including Building the Largest Scientific Instrument Ever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 04:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] there&#8217;s just not enough funding to go around. As physicist Sean Carroll points out over at Discover, the James Webb Space Telescope is gobbling up most of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Citing Cost, NASA Bows Out Of Two Astrophysics Projects, Including Building the Largest Scientific Instrument Ever &#124; Mutual Cognizance</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/04/06/nasa-gives-up-on-lisa/comment-page-1/#comment-159675</link>
		<dc:creator>Citing Cost, NASA Bows Out Of Two Astrophysics Projects, Including Building the Largest Scientific Instrument Ever &#124; Mutual Cognizance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 17:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] but there’s just not enough funding to go around. As physicist Sean Carroll points out over at Discover, the James Webb Space Telescope is gobbling up most of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Expecting to Fly (Let&#8217;s Get On With It)</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/04/06/nasa-gives-up-on-lisa/comment-page-1/#comment-159575</link>
		<dc:creator>Expecting to Fly (Let&#8217;s Get On With It)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2011 22:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are seen as too little, too late. Some people grumble that the JWST overspend has killed off other exciting missions. Others have speculated the mission may be cancelled altogether by the Republicans in Congress. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] are seen as too little, too late. Some people grumble that the JWST overspend has killed off other exciting missions. Others have speculated the mission may be cancelled altogether by the Republicans in Congress. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Too</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/04/06/nasa-gives-up-on-lisa/comment-page-1/#comment-159508</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2011 03:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, there&#039;s some pretty apocalyptic talk on this thread!  The US is finished, humankind is a writeoff, my dreams of greatness by proxy are irrepairably damaged, etc.

We are going through a &lt;i&gt;temporary&lt;/i&gt; financial problem.  Most likely.  It&#039;s not like the world hasn&#039;t faced problems before and considerable numbers of those were far, far worse than now.  All we have to do is exile all the irresponsible financial types and hope there are more than a dozen left to keep the system running (hah!).

If LISA has merit it will be back, though perhaps in a different form.

Meanwhile I maintain that proven successful and productive projects are what need to be protected and nurtured at this time.  Bleeding edge projects with a 50-95% chance of failing are a waste of time and political capital during a financial pinch.  Especially if they are expensive to begin with and very likely to overrun their initial budgets.  By a lot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, there&#8217;s some pretty apocalyptic talk on this thread!  The US is finished, humankind is a writeoff, my dreams of greatness by proxy are irrepairably damaged, etc.</p>
<p>We are going through a <i>temporary</i> financial problem.  Most likely.  It&#8217;s not like the world hasn&#8217;t faced problems before and considerable numbers of those were far, far worse than now.  All we have to do is exile all the irresponsible financial types and hope there are more than a dozen left to keep the system running (hah!).</p>
<p>If LISA has merit it will be back, though perhaps in a different form.</p>
<p>Meanwhile I maintain that proven successful and productive projects are what need to be protected and nurtured at this time.  Bleeding edge projects with a 50-95% chance of failing are a waste of time and political capital during a financial pinch.  Especially if they are expensive to begin with and very likely to overrun their initial budgets.  By a lot!</p>
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		<title>By: Here and There &#124; Cosmic Variance &#124; moregoodstuff.info</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/04/06/nasa-gives-up-on-lisa/comment-page-1/#comment-159462</link>
		<dc:creator>Here and There &#124; Cosmic Variance &#124; moregoodstuff.info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2011 06:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to the post about NASA giving up on LISA, more official words have come from NASA itself. (The original posts here and elsewhere were based [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Radhakrishna</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/04/06/nasa-gives-up-on-lisa/comment-page-1/#comment-159448</link>
		<dc:creator>Radhakrishna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2011 02:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is sad. LISA is one of the ambitious project. Crunch of money should not stop the project. If the same was the case with some of the ambitious project of earlier times - building of  accelerators, sending men to moon, launching of various space crafts, establishing Hubble, Chandra and other powerful telescopes, sequencing genes ... , we the mankind would be the looser. Let Obama and his men stop funding heavily on defence and divert them to Science projects like LISA so that our understanding of the universe and nature to reach new frontiers. 
Krishna</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is sad. LISA is one of the ambitious project. Crunch of money should not stop the project. If the same was the case with some of the ambitious project of earlier times &#8211; building of  accelerators, sending men to moon, launching of various space crafts, establishing Hubble, Chandra and other powerful telescopes, sequencing genes &#8230; , we the mankind would be the looser. Let Obama and his men stop funding heavily on defence and divert them to Science projects like LISA so that our understanding of the universe and nature to reach new frontiers.<br />
Krishna</p>
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		<title>By: Here and There &#124; Cosmic Variance &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/04/06/nasa-gives-up-on-lisa/comment-page-1/#comment-159444</link>
		<dc:creator>Here and There &#124; Cosmic Variance &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2011 01:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to the post about NASA giving up on LISA, more official words have come from NASA itself. (The original posts here and elsewhere were based [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Linkfest, 13 April</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/04/06/nasa-gives-up-on-lisa/comment-page-1/#comment-159267</link>
		<dc:creator>Linkfest, 13 April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 20:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of gravitational wave observatory LISA, as well as X-ray mission IXO. Sean Carroll talked about it on Cosmic Variance, Steinn Sigurdsson gives his thoughts here (and here).There&#8217;s a good ol&#8217; Pluto fight on [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of gravitational wave observatory LISA, as well as X-ray mission IXO. Sean Carroll talked about it on Cosmic Variance, Steinn Sigurdsson gives his thoughts here (and here).There&#8217;s a good ol&#8217; Pluto fight on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: One O&#8217;Clock Daily &#8211; Wednesday Science Links &#171; Intellectual Pornography</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/04/06/nasa-gives-up-on-lisa/comment-page-1/#comment-159266</link>
		<dc:creator>One O&#8217;Clock Daily &#8211; Wednesday Science Links &#171; Intellectual Pornography</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 20:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Space-based gravitational wave observatory plan abandoned by NASA after budget cuts [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chanda</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/04/06/nasa-gives-up-on-lisa/comment-page-1/#comment-159102</link>
		<dc:creator>Chanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 20:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay people, just thought I&#039;d point out that LISA isn&#039;t cancelled, for a few reasons, starting with the fact that it was never guaranteed in the first place by NASA or the ESA, and ending with the fact that essentially the ESA dumped NASA because of how tiny NASA&#039;s budget is. &lt;b&gt;And&lt;/b&gt; if you bother to properly read the President&#039;s budget request for NASA for the last couple of years along with this year&#039;s, you&#039;ll see that JWST isn&#039;t actually sucking up all the money. Blame Wall Street/Afghanistan/your money-sucking economy-destroying cause of the week. The entire agency is being shrunk to the tune of about $2.2 billion over the next few years. That&#039;s not JWST. That&#039;s some people thinking that we can &quot;win the future&quot; by defunding pure science. (Thankfully the people who funded CERN when the WWW was invented were not this stupid.)

The headline of this blog entry significantly exaggerates what is going on. The real facts of what happens next are here: http://lisa.nasa.gov/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay people, just thought I&#8217;d point out that LISA isn&#8217;t cancelled, for a few reasons, starting with the fact that it was never guaranteed in the first place by NASA or the ESA, and ending with the fact that essentially the ESA dumped NASA because of how tiny NASA&#8217;s budget is. <b>And</b> if you bother to properly read the President&#8217;s budget request for NASA for the last couple of years along with this year&#8217;s, you&#8217;ll see that JWST isn&#8217;t actually sucking up all the money. Blame Wall Street/Afghanistan/your money-sucking economy-destroying cause of the week. The entire agency is being shrunk to the tune of about $2.2 billion over the next few years. That&#8217;s not JWST. That&#8217;s some people thinking that we can &#8220;win the future&#8221; by defunding pure science. (Thankfully the people who funded CERN when the WWW was invented were not this stupid.)</p>
<p>The headline of this blog entry significantly exaggerates what is going on. The real facts of what happens next are here: <a href="http://lisa.nasa.gov/" rel="nofollow">http://lisa.nasa.gov/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Smith</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/04/06/nasa-gives-up-on-lisa/comment-page-1/#comment-158978</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2011 17:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you think the cancellation of the LISA is bad, can you believe that while scouting talent for a science documentary I want to make explaining my theories about time displacement.

I was arrested and put on trial for child molestation. (Los Angeles County). 

Regardless, I ‘am still going forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you think the cancellation of the LISA is bad, can you believe that while scouting talent for a science documentary I want to make explaining my theories about time displacement.</p>
<p>I was arrested and put on trial for child molestation. (Los Angeles County). </p>
<p>Regardless, I ‘am still going forward.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/04/06/nasa-gives-up-on-lisa/comment-page-1/#comment-158924</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2011 22:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let them outsource LISA to bring the cost down.Stop funding wars.Who needs them anyway???</description>
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		<title>By: pat b</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/04/06/nasa-gives-up-on-lisa/comment-page-1/#comment-158903</link>
		<dc:creator>pat b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2011 16:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the reason the JWST is eating cosmology missions is because it was designed as an all or nothing mission.  The design is a monster, it is way beyond anyone&#039;s capabilities, and it&#039;s consuming all observatory dollars.  I will note for the record that a spare Hubble Mirror is available. It&#039;s sitting in the Air and Space Museum.  A decent approach would take that spare mirror, mount it into a
Hubble Frame, put some modern electronics in it and send it up to GEO-Sync orbit.

Yes it would be unservicable, but, we know many of the bugs, we could put it on a Delta 4 heavy, and
let it do Long look missions, which would be relatively easy.  This spacecraft could be built for 2-3 hundred million and flown and operated for no more then $500Million.  Sitting in GEO, it could talk to a dedicated ground station so it wouldn&#039;t need TDRSS time and it wouldn&#039;t need heavy comms management.  

With that kind of Stare Time it could work IR, UV and Deep Field and hunt for planetary signal.

This would leave money for LISA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the reason the JWST is eating cosmology missions is because it was designed as an all or nothing mission.  The design is a monster, it is way beyond anyone&#8217;s capabilities, and it&#8217;s consuming all observatory dollars.  I will note for the record that a spare Hubble Mirror is available. It&#8217;s sitting in the Air and Space Museum.  A decent approach would take that spare mirror, mount it into a<br />
Hubble Frame, put some modern electronics in it and send it up to GEO-Sync orbit.</p>
<p>Yes it would be unservicable, but, we know many of the bugs, we could put it on a Delta 4 heavy, and<br />
let it do Long look missions, which would be relatively easy.  This spacecraft could be built for 2-3 hundred million and flown and operated for no more then $500Million.  Sitting in GEO, it could talk to a dedicated ground station so it wouldn&#8217;t need TDRSS time and it wouldn&#8217;t need heavy comms management.  </p>
<p>With that kind of Stare Time it could work IR, UV and Deep Field and hunt for planetary signal.</p>
<p>This would leave money for LISA</p>
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		<title>By: oracle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/04/06/nasa-gives-up-on-lisa/comment-page-1/#comment-158896</link>
		<dc:creator>oracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2011 14:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous_Snowboarder,

You are completely wrong!!!

The problem is not that there is not enough money available for food, providing jobs and other important things the ordinary citizens need to improve their lives AND cool science.
The real problem is the addiction of the US governement to playing war games around the world which sucks all of the resources in like a big fat blackhole growing even bigger and fatter! 
Just cut the defense budget to an appropriate size; this will lead to an acceptable solution of all financal problems of the nation the ordinary citizens AND scientist can live with!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous_Snowboarder,</p>
<p>You are completely wrong!!!</p>
<p>The problem is not that there is not enough money available for food, providing jobs and other important things the ordinary citizens need to improve their lives AND cool science.<br />
The real problem is the addiction of the US governement to playing war games around the world which sucks all of the resources in like a big fat blackhole growing even bigger and fatter!<br />
Just cut the defense budget to an appropriate size; this will lead to an acceptable solution of all financal problems of the nation the ordinary citizens AND scientist can live with!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Thompson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/04/06/nasa-gives-up-on-lisa/comment-page-1/#comment-158893</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2011 13:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luckily NASA had enough money to put that dopey global warming satellite into space. Dumb stupid, idiot liberals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luckily NASA had enough money to put that dopey global warming satellite into space. Dumb stupid, idiot liberals.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous_Snowboarder</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/04/06/nasa-gives-up-on-lisa/comment-page-1/#comment-158830</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous_Snowboarder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 23:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ToughTimes - do you really, honestly, think that the American public are going to jump up and down and get behind you to fund a gravity wave detection project when we have nearly 20% &#039;under&#039;-employed? When they struggle to pay the supermarket bill let alone gas for the car? When we have $50 TRILLION in unfunded liabilities?   And @Dave, trying to say &#039;well we can cut all of this so we can spend on what I like&#039; is very much part of the problem and also ignoring the fundamental issue - the US is broke.   I&#039;ll step on some toes on this website but funding programs such as this one which are unlikely to offer any tangible improvement in the lives of the ordinary citizens is just not tenable anymore.  These and similar projects are luxuries which are now victims of across the board government largess the past 75 years.   Simply put, Grampa and Grandma, Mommy and Daddy spent our future and left us the tab.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ToughTimes &#8211; do you really, honestly, think that the American public are going to jump up and down and get behind you to fund a gravity wave detection project when we have nearly 20% &#8216;under&#8217;-employed? When they struggle to pay the supermarket bill let alone gas for the car? When we have $50 TRILLION in unfunded liabilities?   And @Dave, trying to say &#8216;well we can cut all of this so we can spend on what I like&#8217; is very much part of the problem and also ignoring the fundamental issue &#8211; the US is broke.   I&#8217;ll step on some toes on this website but funding programs such as this one which are unlikely to offer any tangible improvement in the lives of the ordinary citizens is just not tenable anymore.  These and similar projects are luxuries which are now victims of across the board government largess the past 75 years.   Simply put, Grampa and Grandma, Mommy and Daddy spent our future and left us the tab.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Cornish</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/04/06/nasa-gives-up-on-lisa/comment-page-1/#comment-158812</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Cornish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 19:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To paraphrase Mark Twain, reports of LISA&#039;s death are greatly exaggerated. The current LISA project within NASA has been instructed to stand-down, and the LISA International Science Team (which I was a member of) has been disbanded. But this is not the end of the story. NASA is not going to walk away from space based gravitational wave astronomy. The 2010 Decadal report for astrophysics strongly endorsed the LISA mission concept and its science goals, and NASA is expected to find ways to implement these recommendations. The way forward won&#039;t be easy, but expect to see a re-designed and re-named LISA project at NASA. The science opportunity is just too compelling to let die. It is not a question of if we see a gravitational wave detector in space, but when.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To paraphrase Mark Twain, reports of LISA&#8217;s death are greatly exaggerated. The current LISA project within NASA has been instructed to stand-down, and the LISA International Science Team (which I was a member of) has been disbanded. But this is not the end of the story. NASA is not going to walk away from space based gravitational wave astronomy. The 2010 Decadal report for astrophysics strongly endorsed the LISA mission concept and its science goals, and NASA is expected to find ways to implement these recommendations. The way forward won&#8217;t be easy, but expect to see a re-designed and re-named LISA project at NASA. The science opportunity is just too compelling to let die. It is not a question of if we see a gravitational wave detector in space, but when.</p>
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		<title>By: Heinrich Monroe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/04/06/nasa-gives-up-on-lisa/comment-page-1/#comment-158806</link>
		<dc:creator>Heinrich Monroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 18:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Suetonius April 7th, 2011 at 6:28 pm

&quot;Wildly productive of what? Breathless press releases announcing the discovery of yet another ball of gas or piece of rock? In fact, extrasolar planet “research” has about as much credibility as searches for a cure for cancer.&quot;

I just want to add my skepticism about extrasolar planet detection. This is, in general, a very good thing, and research is always good. But the holy grail, which is detection of an Earth-like planet, is somewhat of a yawner. Why? Well, because I&#039;d be *absolutely dumfounded* if one didn&#039;t exist. Given the enormous number of larger planets already found in a wide range of orbits, it&#039;s a little hard to conceive that smaller chunks aren&#039;t around in habitable zones. It&#039;s nice to find one, but it has the smell of flag-planting rather than science. LISA would probe entirely new science directions and tell us things that are really new, instead of just pointing at things that we really wouldn&#039;t be that surprised to find. I&#039;m after surprises, rather than checking off boxes. Yes, such a discovery would get you an above-the-fold news article, but then where are you after that?

There are a wide range of things that we&#039;d be absolutely dumfounded about if they didn&#039;t exist, and while chasing them down offers some sense of relief, one has to do some simple prioritization. Does anyone, in their wildest dreams, believe that Earth-like extrasolar planets DON&#039;T exist?

I guess if you find one, that&#039;s an obvious target for searches for life, but our knowledge about the formation of life is so incomplete, it&#039;s somewhat presumptuous to say that such targets should be restricted to Earth-like masses in habitable zones around middling-mass main sequence stars.

What am I missing here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Suetonius April 7th, 2011 at 6:28 pm</p>
<p>&#8220;Wildly productive of what? Breathless press releases announcing the discovery of yet another ball of gas or piece of rock? In fact, extrasolar planet “research” has about as much credibility as searches for a cure for cancer.&#8221;</p>
<p>I just want to add my skepticism about extrasolar planet detection. This is, in general, a very good thing, and research is always good. But the holy grail, which is detection of an Earth-like planet, is somewhat of a yawner. Why? Well, because I&#8217;d be *absolutely dumfounded* if one didn&#8217;t exist. Given the enormous number of larger planets already found in a wide range of orbits, it&#8217;s a little hard to conceive that smaller chunks aren&#8217;t around in habitable zones. It&#8217;s nice to find one, but it has the smell of flag-planting rather than science. LISA would probe entirely new science directions and tell us things that are really new, instead of just pointing at things that we really wouldn&#8217;t be that surprised to find. I&#8217;m after surprises, rather than checking off boxes. Yes, such a discovery would get you an above-the-fold news article, but then where are you after that?</p>
<p>There are a wide range of things that we&#8217;d be absolutely dumfounded about if they didn&#8217;t exist, and while chasing them down offers some sense of relief, one has to do some simple prioritization. Does anyone, in their wildest dreams, believe that Earth-like extrasolar planets DON&#8217;T exist?</p>
<p>I guess if you find one, that&#8217;s an obvious target for searches for life, but our knowledge about the formation of life is so incomplete, it&#8217;s somewhat presumptuous to say that such targets should be restricted to Earth-like masses in habitable zones around middling-mass main sequence stars.</p>
<p>What am I missing here?</p>
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