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		<title>By: Allyson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/12/01/interdisciplinarity/comment-page-1/#comment-201536</link>
		<dc:creator>Allyson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 22:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You see Phillip, she&#039;s sleeping with a member of the faculty/band, and is therefore not a musician/philosopher. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You see Phillip, she&#8217;s sleeping with a member of the faculty/band, and is therefore not a musician/philosopher. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Yvette</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/12/01/interdisciplinarity/comment-page-1/#comment-201130</link>
		<dc:creator>Yvette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 15:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m currently a PhD who does a good amount of public science outreach as a hobby because I rather enjoy it (writing for magazines and the like).  When I applied to graduate school everyone told me flat out this was a liability instead of an asset because it would be seen as me not being &quot;focused&quot; enough on my future research.

Luckily I got into graduate school for a great program in Europe where people tend to be more well rounded, but my advisers were right in their predictions in that I never got into a graduate program in the USA (whereas in Europe several were interested, although in some interviews the public outreach WAS addressed as a liability even here).  It just worried me that a field that de facto relies on taxpayer money would consider someone interested in explaining science as such a bad thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m currently a PhD who does a good amount of public science outreach as a hobby because I rather enjoy it (writing for magazines and the like).  When I applied to graduate school everyone told me flat out this was a liability instead of an asset because it would be seen as me not being &#8220;focused&#8221; enough on my future research.</p>
<p>Luckily I got into graduate school for a great program in Europe where people tend to be more well rounded, but my advisers were right in their predictions in that I never got into a graduate program in the USA (whereas in Europe several were interested, although in some interviews the public outreach WAS addressed as a liability even here).  It just worried me that a field that de facto relies on taxpayer money would consider someone interested in explaining science as such a bad thing.</p>
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		<title>By: piscator</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/12/01/interdisciplinarity/comment-page-1/#comment-201126</link>
		<dc:creator>piscator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 14:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since &#039;jack of all trades and master of none&#039; is a standard expression, it is clear the same logic can and does hold outside academia.

Without evaluation of the actual quality of research, there is little reason to gripe about breadth or depth. A crummy paper doesn&#039;t become good because it is interdisciplinary. 
Writing five bad papers on five separate topics does not make you better than someone writing five good papers on one topic.

It is true that brilliant, radical and foundational insights may come from another discipline. And it is also true that the truly great people (thinking of people like Maldacena, Weinberg, Wilczek, Witten, etc) leave contributions in many disciplines. But the converse isn&#039;t true. This is the Galileo fallacy - Galileo&#039;s ideas were rejected, my ideas are rejected, therefore I am Galileo - and writing papers across different areas does not a great thinker make.

At least in physics, work that sets out to be broad (&#039;Today I am going to write an inter(sub)disciplinary paper&#039;) on the whole does not seem to me that good. The best work of this kind is where the link has emerged by naturally following good ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since &#8216;jack of all trades and master of none&#8217; is a standard expression, it is clear the same logic can and does hold outside academia.</p>
<p>Without evaluation of the actual quality of research, there is little reason to gripe about breadth or depth. A crummy paper doesn&#8217;t become good because it is interdisciplinary.<br />
Writing five bad papers on five separate topics does not make you better than someone writing five good papers on one topic.</p>
<p>It is true that brilliant, radical and foundational insights may come from another discipline. And it is also true that the truly great people (thinking of people like Maldacena, Weinberg, Wilczek, Witten, etc) leave contributions in many disciplines. But the converse isn&#8217;t true. This is the Galileo fallacy &#8211; Galileo&#8217;s ideas were rejected, my ideas are rejected, therefore I am Galileo &#8211; and writing papers across different areas does not a great thinker make.</p>
<p>At least in physics, work that sets out to be broad (&#8216;Today I am going to write an inter(sub)disciplinary paper&#8217;) on the whole does not seem to me that good. The best work of this kind is where the link has emerged by naturally following good ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 20:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew Melnyk, thanks for that clarification.  I will update the post to point to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew Melnyk, thanks for that clarification.  I will update the post to point to it.</p>
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		<title>By: C</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/12/01/interdisciplinarity/comment-page-1/#comment-200688</link>
		<dc:creator>C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 19:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Ernst&#039;s description of the reasons for which his wife was denied tenure, then I think the department made a horrible decision. Is it sexism?  Hard to say.  Maybe it&#039;s just a case where a bad decision was made that negatively impacted a female candidate for tenure and it just happens to be the case that the department&#039;s bad judgment never negatively impacts male candidates for reasons that have nothing to do with the sex of the candidate.  (It would be nice if somebody could confirm whether Ernst&#039;s account of the department&#039;s reasons for denying tenure is accurate, but I understand why Prof. Melnyk wouldn&#039;t want to comment on the recent decision to deny tenure.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Ernst&#8217;s description of the reasons for which his wife was denied tenure, then I think the department made a horrible decision. Is it sexism?  Hard to say.  Maybe it&#8217;s just a case where a bad decision was made that negatively impacted a female candidate for tenure and it just happens to be the case that the department&#8217;s bad judgment never negatively impacts male candidates for reasons that have nothing to do with the sex of the candidate.  (It would be nice if somebody could confirm whether Ernst&#8217;s account of the department&#8217;s reasons for denying tenure is accurate, but I understand why Prof. Melnyk wouldn&#8217;t want to comment on the recent decision to deny tenure.)</p>
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		<title>By: Interdisciplinarity &#124; Cosmic Variance &#124; University of Missouri</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/12/01/interdisciplinarity/comment-page-1/#comment-200683</link>
		<dc:creator>Interdisciplinarity &#124; Cosmic Variance &#124; University of Missouri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 18:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Andrew Melnyk</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/12/01/interdisciplinarity/comment-page-1/#comment-200681</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Melnyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 18:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am the department chair whose views my colleague Zac Ernst purports to represent in the passage quoted above.  I would like to correct a factual error.  When Zac was hired, before I was department chair, his CV showed forthcoming or published papers in action theory, game theory, logic, and philosophy of science; and his job talk to the department was a paper in ethics.  Far from being unhappy with Zac’s research record, I was an enthusiastic supporter of hiring him (together with his wife) and was delighted when they accepted our offer.  In light of my strong support for hiring Zac, it would have been bizarre if, after I became department chair a year later, I had said that “it would be very difficult for [him] to get tenure with such research breadth”.  And in fact I told him no such thing, explicitly or otherwise.  What I did tell him, since it is my view, is that some tenure evaluators are looking for evidence of a focused research program, but are also looking for evidence of breadth; the ideal research record would have both focus and breadth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am the department chair whose views my colleague Zac Ernst purports to represent in the passage quoted above.  I would like to correct a factual error.  When Zac was hired, before I was department chair, his CV showed forthcoming or published papers in action theory, game theory, logic, and philosophy of science; and his job talk to the department was a paper in ethics.  Far from being unhappy with Zac’s research record, I was an enthusiastic supporter of hiring him (together with his wife) and was delighted when they accepted our offer.  In light of my strong support for hiring Zac, it would have been bizarre if, after I became department chair a year later, I had said that “it would be very difficult for [him] to get tenure with such research breadth”.  And in fact I told him no such thing, explicitly or otherwise.  What I did tell him, since it is my view, is that some tenure evaluators are looking for evidence of a focused research program, but are also looking for evidence of breadth; the ideal research record would have both focus and breadth.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh T.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/12/01/interdisciplinarity/comment-page-1/#comment-200680</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 18:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The essay from Prof Ernst is an interesting read. Ignoring his obvious bias, it sounds like a rather blatant case of sexism. Is there any venue for redress for people denied tenure? Is there any chance of success if one filed a discrimination lawsuit? I don&#039;t know the answers, nor do I know if there is any precedent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The essay from Prof Ernst is an interesting read. Ignoring his obvious bias, it sounds like a rather blatant case of sexism. Is there any venue for redress for people denied tenure? Is there any chance of success if one filed a discrimination lawsuit? I don&#8217;t know the answers, nor do I know if there is any precedent.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/12/01/interdisciplinarity/comment-page-1/#comment-200650</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 16:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post begins with the facts reversed: it indicates that Ernst is now at the University of Wisconsin and formerly of the University of Missouri, but the reverse is true: Ernst and Chant were at the University of Wisconsin years ago as graduate students, and are now (still) at the University of Missouri.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post begins with the facts reversed: it indicates that Ernst is now at the University of Wisconsin and formerly of the University of Missouri, but the reverse is true: Ernst and Chant were at the University of Wisconsin years ago as graduate students, and are now (still) at the University of Missouri.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 06:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reverse problem does exist, though: people who are multidisciplinary and are credited with far too much brilliance because others are unable to judge them in all their fields. The paleontologist George G. Simpson wrote about attending a conference in honor of  his friend, the paleontologist and philosopher Pierre Teilhard de Chardin. In chatting with other attendees Simpson found that the other paleontologists agreed with him that Teilhard wasn&#039;t all that good in paleontology, but he still must be brilliant because - look at all the great philosophers who are attending the conference. But then Simpson talked with the philosophers, who told him that Teilhard wasn&#039;t a very good philosopher but he must still be brilliant - look at all the great paleontologists attending this conference!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reverse problem does exist, though: people who are multidisciplinary and are credited with far too much brilliance because others are unable to judge them in all their fields. The paleontologist George G. Simpson wrote about attending a conference in honor of  his friend, the paleontologist and philosopher Pierre Teilhard de Chardin. In chatting with other attendees Simpson found that the other paleontologists agreed with him that Teilhard wasn&#8217;t all that good in paleontology, but he still must be brilliant because &#8211; look at all the great philosophers who are attending the conference. But then Simpson talked with the philosophers, who told him that Teilhard wasn&#8217;t a very good philosopher but he must still be brilliant &#8211; look at all the great paleontologists attending this conference!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/12/01/interdisciplinarity/comment-page-1/#comment-200397</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 21:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, just to be clear, it seems like Ernst--according to his CV and the school website--is still at the University of Missouri, and he got his PhD from Wisconsin. Which means he still works with the colleagues he&#039;s criticized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, just to be clear, it seems like Ernst&#8211;according to his CV and the school website&#8211;is still at the University of Missouri, and he got his PhD from Wisconsin. Which means he still works with the colleagues he&#8217;s criticized.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Helbig</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/12/01/interdisciplinarity/comment-page-1/#comment-200393</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Helbig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 21:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know nothing about the case above (haven&#039;t even read up on it yet), but here&#039;s a thought: Is it clear that it is sexism, or could it be that they were hard on her because her spouse already had tenure and didn&#039;t want to be seen as doing a favour to a married couple?  (Not that this is any more excusable, of course, though on the other hand giving someone tenure, or a permanent job, just because they are married to the right person is equally absurd, despite the fact that many people actually suggest this as a solution to the two-body problem.)  In other words, if she had tenure first, would they have been just as hard on him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know nothing about the case above (haven&#8217;t even read up on it yet), but here&#8217;s a thought: Is it clear that it is sexism, or could it be that they were hard on her because her spouse already had tenure and didn&#8217;t want to be seen as doing a favour to a married couple?  (Not that this is any more excusable, of course, though on the other hand giving someone tenure, or a permanent job, just because they are married to the right person is equally absurd, despite the fact that many people actually suggest this as a solution to the two-body problem.)  In other words, if she had tenure first, would they have been just as hard on him?</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Helbig</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/12/01/interdisciplinarity/comment-page-1/#comment-200392</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Helbig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 21:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@11: I&#039;ve read ZATAOMM three times and  twice.  I rarely read books more than once.  In the prolog to ZATAOMM, Pirsig remarks that the manuscript was rejected by something like 120 publishers before one publisher accepted it, thinking it would ruin him financially but that accepting such good manuscripts, whether or not they would be commercially viable, was what he went into publishing for in the first place.  The book turned out to be a best-seller.

Times have changed.  A few years ago, someone was awarded a doctorate for a thesis involving Pirsig&#039;s work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@11: I&#8217;ve read ZATAOMM three times and  twice.  I rarely read books more than once.  In the prolog to ZATAOMM, Pirsig remarks that the manuscript was rejected by something like 120 publishers before one publisher accepted it, thinking it would ruin him financially but that accepting such good manuscripts, whether or not they would be commercially viable, was what he went into publishing for in the first place.  The book turned out to be a best-seller.</p>
<p>Times have changed.  A few years ago, someone was awarded a doctorate for a thesis involving Pirsig&#8217;s work.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew LaPine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/12/01/interdisciplinarity/comment-page-1/#comment-200356</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew LaPine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This quote seems to be reveal some assumptions about modern academia, namely that the point is to collect data, rather than to produce people. Generalists might be better for producing virtuous people, but certainly not for mythical progress of the data machine we call the modern project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This quote seems to be reveal some assumptions about modern academia, namely that the point is to collect data, rather than to produce people. Generalists might be better for producing virtuous people, but certainly not for mythical progress of the data machine we call the modern project.</p>
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		<title>By: Iluzun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iluzun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 17:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To &#039;stir the pot&#039; a bit.  The book, Lila, by Robert Pirsig (Zen &amp; the Art of Motorcycle 
Maintenance), deals w/such phenomenon &amp; his frustration w/such.  Certainly, a broad &amp; intelligent thinker, Mr. Pirsig&#039;s wide scope &amp; range, propelled by a tempestuous nature, ultimately put him @odds w/acedemia &#039;silos&#039;.  An excellent read....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To &#8216;stir the pot&#8217; a bit.  The book, Lila, by Robert Pirsig (Zen &amp; the Art of Motorcycle<br />
Maintenance), deals w/such phenomenon &amp; his frustration w/such.  Certainly, a broad &amp; intelligent thinker, Mr. Pirsig&#8217;s wide scope &amp; range, propelled by a tempestuous nature, ultimately put him @odds w/acedemia &#8216;silos&#8217;.  An excellent read&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Square Peg</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/12/01/interdisciplinarity/comment-page-1/#comment-200335</link>
		<dc:creator>Square Peg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 16:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree with this post more. After several postdocs at well-reputed institutions I have been repeatedly denied jobs I was shortlisted for on the basis that my research is too broad. My confidants and advisors all tell me that my breadth is a good thing and is one of the real strengths of my research -- but behind closed doors they also warn me that this is the reason why I am having difficulty landing a permanent job. 

It seems that increasingly departments and individual researchers are playing fetch with whatever funding agencies decide to throw into the field. One way to halt the trend of ever increasing specialization is to de-compartmentalize funding agencies such as the NSF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree with this post more. After several postdocs at well-reputed institutions I have been repeatedly denied jobs I was shortlisted for on the basis that my research is too broad. My confidants and advisors all tell me that my breadth is a good thing and is one of the real strengths of my research &#8212; but behind closed doors they also warn me that this is the reason why I am having difficulty landing a permanent job. </p>
<p>It seems that increasingly departments and individual researchers are playing fetch with whatever funding agencies decide to throw into the field. One way to halt the trend of ever increasing specialization is to de-compartmentalize funding agencies such as the NSF.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 16:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its a good thing people like John Von Neumann weren&#039;t subjected to the limited constraints of todays academia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its a good thing people like John Von Neumann weren&#8217;t subjected to the limited constraints of todays academia.</p>
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		<title>By: David Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 12:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem of a biophysicist working in the biology department or the physics department might be solved by creating a fully fledged biophysics department. At least biophysics is a large field that might justify its own department. One idea might be to have a scientists&#039; interdisciplinary department that accommodates excellence in small interdisciplinary domains (applications of physics to archaeology?) or extremely multidisciplinary domains (collaborations of 5 or more traditional departments?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem of a biophysicist working in the biology department or the physics department might be solved by creating a fully fledged biophysics department. At least biophysics is a large field that might justify its own department. One idea might be to have a scientists&#8217; interdisciplinary department that accommodates excellence in small interdisciplinary domains (applications of physics to archaeology?) or extremely multidisciplinary domains (collaborations of 5 or more traditional departments?).</p>
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		<title>By: Rhys</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 10:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This touches a nerve for me; my interests wander quite a bit, and once I finish a project, I tend to feel like working on something completely different rather than starting another closely-related piece of work.  Evidently this might count against me at some point.

But on a more objective level:
I understand the argument for specialisation/depth --- that with our current state of knowledge, it is very hard to make significant progress any other way --- but does that mean *every* academic needs to be ultra-specialised?  Many academics spend an entire career without doing any ground-breaking work anyway, so perhaps it would be beneficial if some positions were instead taken up by broad thinkers, who can look at the bigger picture, and assist with cross-fertilisation of ideas etc., maybe without ever making any earth-shattering discoveries themselves.  Perhaps I am being idealistic, and this doesn&#039;t really work in practice...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This touches a nerve for me; my interests wander quite a bit, and once I finish a project, I tend to feel like working on something completely different rather than starting another closely-related piece of work.  Evidently this might count against me at some point.</p>
<p>But on a more objective level:<br />
I understand the argument for specialisation/depth &#8212; that with our current state of knowledge, it is very hard to make significant progress any other way &#8212; but does that mean *every* academic needs to be ultra-specialised?  Many academics spend an entire career without doing any ground-breaking work anyway, so perhaps it would be beneficial if some positions were instead taken up by broad thinkers, who can look at the bigger picture, and assist with cross-fertilisation of ideas etc., maybe without ever making any earth-shattering discoveries themselves.  Perhaps I am being idealistic, and this doesn&#8217;t really work in practice&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bee</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2011/12/01/interdisciplinarity/comment-page-1/#comment-200247</link>
		<dc:creator>Bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 08:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rarely have I found myself agreeing so much with one of your posts. 

The problem runs deeper than that. That academia passively and actively discourages interdisciplinarity has the effect that scientists get stuck in a discipline they once thought promising. Overspecialized as they are, the only choice they have is to continue to proclaim their research field is still promising. 

Specialization occurs naturally, in research as well as in ecological systems. It&#039;s a division of labor that allows to use resources best. But it&#039;s not useful to discover new resources. This often comes from making connections between different fields. &lt;a href=&quot;http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2009/08/four-stages-of-science.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;There&#039;s an interesting paper by Alexander Shneider&lt;/a&gt; who argues that science proceeds in 4 stages and specialization is one of them. That&#039;s of course a gross oversimplification of the complexity of knowledge discovery, but I think there&#039;s some truth in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rarely have I found myself agreeing so much with one of your posts. </p>
<p>The problem runs deeper than that. That academia passively and actively discourages interdisciplinarity has the effect that scientists get stuck in a discipline they once thought promising. Overspecialized as they are, the only choice they have is to continue to proclaim their research field is still promising. </p>
<p>Specialization occurs naturally, in research as well as in ecological systems. It&#8217;s a division of labor that allows to use resources best. But it&#8217;s not useful to discover new resources. This often comes from making connections between different fields. <a href="http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2009/08/four-stages-of-science.html" rel="nofollow">There&#8217;s an interesting paper by Alexander Shneider</a> who argues that science proceeds in 4 stages and specialization is one of them. That&#8217;s of course a gross oversimplification of the complexity of knowledge discovery, but I think there&#8217;s some truth in it.</p>
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