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	<title>Comments on: Good News/Bad News: Nobel Edition</title>
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		<title>By: Phillip Helbig</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2012/01/13/good-newsbad-news-nobel-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-220343</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Helbig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 11:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;A national costume is perfectly acceptable also in Stockholm, and was used e.g. by Abdus Salam &lt;/I&gt;

IIRC, Salam created some problems for the protocol folks when he showed up with more than one wife.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>A national costume is perfectly acceptable also in Stockholm, and was used e.g. by Abdus Salam </i></p>
<p>IIRC, Salam created some problems for the protocol folks when he showed up with more than one wife.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Helbig</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2012/01/13/good-newsbad-news-nobel-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-220341</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Helbig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 11:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;&quot;I am reliably informed that a regular tuxedo is not good enough; you need to go full white tie and tails. (Interestingly, the Peace Prize is more casual; black tie or “national costume” is perfectly acceptable.)&quot;&lt;/I&gt;

I don&#039;t know if this is the reason, but Norway is a bit more laid back than Sweden.  Sweden was (and to some extent still is) a major industrial country (especially in relation to its small population) while Norway was a poor neighbour living mainly from fishing until oil was discovered in the North Sea.  (As a result, it has a negative national debt, i.e. a surplus of about 50 billion (for a population of 4 million).  Most of the oil money goes into a national pension fund.)  Also, the fact that Sweden hasn&#039;t had a war in a couple of hundred years means that more traditions have held on.  In other countries, as a reaction to the (bad) past, there was a tendency to get rid of everything associated with it, whether or not it was bad in itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;I am reliably informed that a regular tuxedo is not good enough; you need to go full white tie and tails. (Interestingly, the Peace Prize is more casual; black tie or “national costume” is perfectly acceptable.)&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if this is the reason, but Norway is a bit more laid back than Sweden.  Sweden was (and to some extent still is) a major industrial country (especially in relation to its small population) while Norway was a poor neighbour living mainly from fishing until oil was discovered in the North Sea.  (As a result, it has a negative national debt, i.e. a surplus of about 50 billion (for a population of 4 million).  Most of the oil money goes into a national pension fund.)  Also, the fact that Sweden hasn&#8217;t had a war in a couple of hundred years means that more traditions have held on.  In other countries, as a reaction to the (bad) past, there was a tendency to get rid of everything associated with it, whether or not it was bad in itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Carroll</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2012/01/13/good-newsbad-news-nobel-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-220221</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Carroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 02:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The anthropic principle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The anthropic principle.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Kirshner</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2012/01/13/good-newsbad-news-nobel-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-220208</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Kirshner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 23:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How come Miss &quot;Universe&quot; is always from Earth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How come Miss &#8220;Universe&#8221; is always from Earth?</p>
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		<title>By: KWK</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2012/01/13/good-newsbad-news-nobel-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-220165</link>
		<dc:creator>KWK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 20:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Nobel ceremony attendees should take their &quot;national costume&quot; cues from the Miss Universe pageant.  I&#039;d have paid good money to see Dr. Perlmutter, Dr. Schmidt, or Dr. Riess show up in this:
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/211818/20110911/miss-universe-2011-u-s-voted-contestants.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Nobel ceremony attendees should take their &#8220;national costume&#8221; cues from the Miss Universe pageant.  I&#8217;d have paid good money to see Dr. Perlmutter, Dr. Schmidt, or Dr. Riess show up in this:<br />
<a href="http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/211818/20110911/miss-universe-2011-u-s-voted-contestants.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/211818/20110911/miss-universe-2011-u-s-voted-contestants.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Eunoia</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2012/01/13/good-newsbad-news-nobel-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-220016</link>
		<dc:creator>Eunoia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 09:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shame that the TBBT video cannot be seen from Germany, due to some obscure rights issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame that the TBBT video cannot be seen from Germany, due to some obscure rights issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Larsson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2012/01/13/good-newsbad-news-nobel-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-219977</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Larsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 04:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A national costume is perfectly acceptable also in Stockholm, and was used e.g. by Abdus Salam &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqC92-T2WUg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;(watch)&lt;/a&gt;. A military gala uniform is also ok.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A national costume is perfectly acceptable also in Stockholm, and was used e.g. by Abdus Salam <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqC92-T2WUg" rel="nofollow">(watch)</a>. A military gala uniform is also ok.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne C. Hanna</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2012/01/13/good-newsbad-news-nobel-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-219891</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne C. Hanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 18:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here we go, maybe *this* is the American national costume:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/01/14/episode-ccxci-maybe-the-puritans-werent-all-bad/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here we go, maybe *this* is the American national costume:</p>
<p><a href="http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/01/14/episode-ccxci-maybe-the-puritans-werent-all-bad/" rel="nofollow">http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/01/14/episode-ccxci-maybe-the-puritans-werent-all-bad/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anne C. Hanna</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2012/01/13/good-newsbad-news-nobel-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-219631</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne C. Hanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 13:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JR, that tie looks to me like it&#039;s some kind of iridescent red/blue combo, color-distorted by the low quality of that photograph.  I suspect it probably would look more normal in person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JR, that tie looks to me like it&#8217;s some kind of iridescent red/blue combo, color-distorted by the low quality of that photograph.  I suspect it probably would look more normal in person.</p>
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		<title>By: Kati</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2012/01/13/good-newsbad-news-nobel-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-219565</link>
		<dc:creator>Kati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 06:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Anne C. Hanna above:  &quot;If I ever win a Nobel, I’m going in a suit, not a fucking dress.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Anne C. Hanna above:  &#8220;If I ever win a Nobel, I’m going in a suit, not a fucking dress.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Kirshner</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2012/01/13/good-newsbad-news-nobel-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-219553</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Kirshner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 04:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian is a deuteranope.  Do not mock, or follow, his color choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian is a deuteranope.  Do not mock, or follow, his color choices.</p>
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		<title>By: JR</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2012/01/13/good-newsbad-news-nobel-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-219525</link>
		<dc:creator>JR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 00:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian&#039;s rocking the best tie:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shaw2006astro.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian&#8217;s rocking the best tie:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shaw2006astro.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shaw2006astro.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anne C. Hanna</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2012/01/13/good-newsbad-news-nobel-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-219469</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne C. Hanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 20:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good question, Douglas.  I wonder if it would be possible to convince them that it&#039;s a T-shirt and jeans.  Or maybe a Revolutionary War uniform complete with a tricorn hat?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question, Douglas.  I wonder if it would be possible to convince them that it&#8217;s a T-shirt and jeans.  Or maybe a Revolutionary War uniform complete with a tricorn hat?</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Clowe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2012/01/13/good-newsbad-news-nobel-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-219455</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas Clowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 19:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what is the US national costume that one could wear instead?</description>
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		<title>By: Anne C. Hanna</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2012/01/13/good-newsbad-news-nobel-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-219444</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne C. Hanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 18:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...while ladies should be dressed in an evening gown.&quot;

I see the sexist dress code is still in full swing.  If I ever win a Nobel, I&#039;m going in a suit, not a fucking dress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;while ladies should be dressed in an evening gown.&#8221;</p>
<p>I see the sexist dress code is still in full swing.  If I ever win a Nobel, I&#8217;m going in a suit, not a fucking dress.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Carroll</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2012/01/13/good-newsbad-news-nobel-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-219441</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Carroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 18:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I ever get my own TV show, mocking Brian&#039;s fashion choices will be high on my list of priorities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I ever get my own TV show, mocking Brian&#8217;s fashion choices will be high on my list of priorities.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Schmidt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2012/01/13/good-newsbad-news-nobel-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-219439</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 18:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still get the rock pile at the top of the hill which my Subaru with good clearance comfortably clears. Feel a little left out not being derided by Sheldon though....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still get the rock pile at the top of the hill which my Subaru with good clearance comfortably clears. Feel a little left out not being derided by Sheldon though&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Kirshner</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2012/01/13/good-newsbad-news-nobel-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-219438</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Kirshner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 18:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few technical comments:

Members of the High-Z Team all sent our (metric) dimensions to the Swedish Tuxedo Warehouse (actually a very posh shop called Hans Allde) and were fitted on arrival.  

These are frock coats, not tuxedos.  Don&#039;t try to outfit a wedding party in Stockholm during Nobel week -- they are sold out!

Women can choose their own outfits.  It would be a good thing, and not just from the fashion point of view, if there were more women winning these prizes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few technical comments:</p>
<p>Members of the High-Z Team all sent our (metric) dimensions to the Swedish Tuxedo Warehouse (actually a very posh shop called Hans Allde) and were fitted on arrival.  </p>
<p>These are frock coats, not tuxedos.  Don&#8217;t try to outfit a wedding party in Stockholm during Nobel week &#8212; they are sold out!</p>
<p>Women can choose their own outfits.  It would be a good thing, and not just from the fashion point of view, if there were more women winning these prizes.</p>
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		<title>By: Physicalist</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2012/01/13/good-newsbad-news-nobel-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-219417</link>
		<dc:creator>Physicalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 17:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I remember the Nobel Laureate parking spots on the Berkeley campus.  Does anyone else do that?</description>
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