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		<title>By: Christopher Ryan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/crux/2011/12/07/bursting-the-bubble-of-human-intelligence/#comment-2526</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Apr 2013 02:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Citing Zak above, as well as some other comments here, aren&#039;t you framing this in a self-serving way? That is, the &quot;accomplishments&quot; you&#039;re valuing are presumably things like cities, pyramids, computers, etc. But how do they stack up against a million years of species survival without major adaptation having been necessary? And have these &quot;accomplishments&quot; really done a lot to improve the quality of life for the average human being? That&#039;s very debatable. So, our survival is in doubt, our planet is suffocating in the stink we&#039;ve created, and even our greatest triumphs hold unintended consequences that paint us further into the corner. I see evidence of cleverness, but not a lot of true intelligence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Citing Zak above, as well as some other comments here, aren&#8217;t you framing this in a self-serving way? That is, the &#8220;accomplishments&#8221; you&#8217;re valuing are presumably things like cities, pyramids, computers, etc. But how do they stack up against a million years of species survival without major adaptation having been necessary? And have these &#8220;accomplishments&#8221; really done a lot to improve the quality of life for the average human being? That&#8217;s very debatable. So, our survival is in doubt, our planet is suffocating in the stink we&#8217;ve created, and even our greatest triumphs hold unintended consequences that paint us further into the corner. I see evidence of cleverness, but not a lot of true intelligence.</p>
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		<title>By: zak</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/crux/2011/12/07/bursting-the-bubble-of-human-intelligence/#comment-2487</link>
		<dc:creator>zak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 05:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does nobody seem to get that the only reason we value intelligence is because it&#039;s all we&#039;ve got. A cheetah thinks that it&#039;s the fastest land animal, and probably doesn&#039;t think much of us, because we&#039;re so frigging slow. A blue whale doesn&#039;t think much of us, because it&#039;s way bigger than us. We value intelligence because it&#039;s ALL WE&#039;VE GOT. A crocodile that hasn&#039;t changed in tens of millions of years isn&#039;t smart at all, and is WAY more successful that we&#039;ll ever be. We will last a total of about 300,000 years. Crocs will be around for millions of years to come (unless the climate change we create does away with them because the sex of the babies is determined by temperature). Lots of organisms are WAY more successful than we&#039;ll ever be, and it&#039;s not because they&#039;re intelligent. It&#039;s because they DON&#039;T need to adapt. Great White Sharks, Crocs, etc. Not too bright, but they don&#039;t need to be. When you have jaws and speed and a sense of smell like a shark, you don&#039;t need to be smart. When you&#039;re can go A YEAR without eating (which a croc can do), you don&#039;t need intelligence. We value intelligence because it&#039;s all we&#039;ve got, but it in NO WAY helps an organism succeed. So, get over yourself homo-sapiens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does nobody seem to get that the only reason we value intelligence is because it&#8217;s all we&#8217;ve got. A cheetah thinks that it&#8217;s the fastest land animal, and probably doesn&#8217;t think much of us, because we&#8217;re so frigging slow. A blue whale doesn&#8217;t think much of us, because it&#8217;s way bigger than us. We value intelligence because it&#8217;s ALL WE&#8217;VE GOT. A crocodile that hasn&#8217;t changed in tens of millions of years isn&#8217;t smart at all, and is WAY more successful that we&#8217;ll ever be. We will last a total of about 300,000 years. Crocs will be around for millions of years to come (unless the climate change we create does away with them because the sex of the babies is determined by temperature). Lots of organisms are WAY more successful than we&#8217;ll ever be, and it&#8217;s not because they&#8217;re intelligent. It&#8217;s because they DON&#8217;T need to adapt. Great White Sharks, Crocs, etc. Not too bright, but they don&#8217;t need to be. When you have jaws and speed and a sense of smell like a shark, you don&#8217;t need to be smart. When you&#8217;re can go A YEAR without eating (which a croc can do), you don&#8217;t need intelligence. We value intelligence because it&#8217;s all we&#8217;ve got, but it in NO WAY helps an organism succeed. So, get over yourself homo-sapiens.</p>
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		<title>By: daedalus2u</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/crux/2011/12/07/bursting-the-bubble-of-human-intelligence/#comment-273</link>
		<dc:creator>daedalus2u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 02:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It takes two entities with compatible “theory of mind” to communicate.  All that can be communicated are mental concepts.  The mental concept of the first party must be translated into the data stream of language (by what I call a “theory of mind”), the resulting data stream must then be up-converted back into mental concepts with the “theory of mind” of the second party.  If those mental concepts cannot be shared, then communication is not possible.  

My hypothesis is that when two humans meet, they do a Turing Test to see if their respective “theory of mind” are close enough that they can understand each other and communicate.  If they are not close enough, then xenophobia is triggered via the uncanny valley effect.  

If you fail the Turing Test, it is as if you are not a human being.  Having a compatible “theory of  mind” that is sufficient to understand the other is the implicit definition of humanity that people unconsciously use.  This is why some humans can treat those they hate as objects.  To bigots and racists, the objects of their bigotry are non-human objects who lack the capacity to express human attributes such as love, respect, trust, honor.  

http://daedalus2u.blogspot.com/2010/03/physiology-behind-xenophobia.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It takes two entities with compatible “theory of mind” to communicate.  All that can be communicated are mental concepts.  The mental concept of the first party must be translated into the data stream of language (by what I call a “theory of mind”), the resulting data stream must then be up-converted back into mental concepts with the “theory of mind” of the second party.  If those mental concepts cannot be shared, then communication is not possible.  </p>
<p>My hypothesis is that when two humans meet, they do a Turing Test to see if their respective “theory of mind” are close enough that they can understand each other and communicate.  If they are not close enough, then xenophobia is triggered via the uncanny valley effect.  </p>
<p>If you fail the Turing Test, it is as if you are not a human being.  Having a compatible “theory of  mind” that is sufficient to understand the other is the implicit definition of humanity that people unconsciously use.  This is why some humans can treat those they hate as objects.  To bigots and racists, the objects of their bigotry are non-human objects who lack the capacity to express human attributes such as love, respect, trust, honor.  </p>
<p><a href="http://daedalus2u.blogspot.com/2010/03/physiology-behind-xenophobia.html" rel="nofollow">http://daedalus2u.blogspot.com/2010/03/physiology-behind-xenophobia.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jess Tauber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jess Tauber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 07:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: 9- The Chomskyan Revolution??? You have to be kidding me! C&#039;s star has been on the wane for decades, as he keeps reinventing his  &#039;theory&#039; every couple of years, usually in reaction to the discoveries of others. Read something about Functionalism in linguistics, will ya? As for universal grammar, its boundaries have been chipped away to such a degree that there is little left you might recognize from earlier incarnations.

My own research concerns iconicity in language. The diehard Chomskyan will declare that Language is symbolic (because of Saussurean arbitrariness delinking form from semantic content). But even in languages as poor in &#039;sound symbolism&#039; as English and most European languages still have tons of other iconic formations not involving sound-meaning.

There are languages by the hundreds out there where iconicity far outweighs symbolicity, as well as those where Peircean indexicality outweighs both symbolicity and iconicity. Chomsky didn&#039;t bother in any real sense to try to gauge the real range of properties across the spectrum of currently living human languages- he simply assumed, from his limited knowledge base, that all languages MUST be similar underlyingly, and then tried to get the rest of the world to believe it too. Most successfully, I might add. For a while.... But when you flip-flop intellectually as much as Chomsky has (which would put Mitt Romney to shame had he been a linguist and not a politician), you start to lose adherents. Trying to destroy your students who see things a bit differently doesn&#039;t win you fans either.

But I digress.  Some of the iconic properties of human languages point in an interesting direction with regard to the origins and evolution of same. The first has to do with the nature of phonemic mappings to meaning.  If one examines many thousands of onomatopes and ideophones across different languages, language families, language types, and geographical regions some mapping preferences emerge. One set links articulatory positions to meanings, and interestingly this relates to the anatomy and function of the articulators at those positions nonlinguistically. Thus it appears that humans exapted the existing materials processing functions of the oral and airway passages to communication- this shouldn&#039;t be too much of a surprise,  since this is seen with other animals when they adapt existing external articulators to communication (usually this involves physical reduction of the organ, rendering it less able to perform its original function, but this also facilitates its use in the new one).

Secondly, the form/meaning mappings form a coherent system, in terms of the phonological features of the phonemes- labials and dentals (diffuse feature) oppose velars and palatals (compact), labials and velars (grave) oppose dentals and palatals (acute). Interestingly, labials then connect to palatals, and dentals to velars, indicating a tetrahedral symmetry here. There is also an opposition depending on even/odd syllable count- a phoneme in the first will have a partially opposite sense to the same phoneme in the second. This all begins to look like the result of a set of matrix operations.

In language typology, we see different ways of packing information into roots, words, phrases and clauses, and so on. Linguistics has discovered that such packing preferences evolve cyclically over time. This involves not just whether a language has affixes or clitics, but also word order,  prosody, even the size and composition of the phonological system, and much else. More matrix mechanics??

All this then ties together with iconicity, symbolicity, indexicality- Index-heavy languages, those with the most elaborate derivational and grammatical morphological systems (the latter esp. the case when there is a great amount of intermorphemic fusion) have the fewest numbers of ideophones and onomatopoeias. Conversely, the languages that are most icon-heavy have the least amount of fusion, and the fewest affixes. Symbol-heavy languages tend to be a mix of icons, symbols, and indexes. What is most interesting to me is that functionally, icons seem to oppose indexes. Thus this isn&#039;t some cline from primitive to advanced- it is a binary opposition constantly in flux. Icons focus on the external content of amessage, and tend to break up chunked transmissions. Indexes on the other hand help to chunk messages for transmission and efficient processing, and focus on the internal structure of the carriers of the messages. 

Obviously a great deal had to have happened to create the neuroanatomical backdrop for all of the above, and not all of it likely happened at the same time. But we have millions of years between our split from the other apes to account for. It would be fascinating to know if our ancestors had all these capacities- perhaps in a few years we can clone some of these from old fossil bones or blood and find out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: 9- The Chomskyan Revolution??? You have to be kidding me! C&#8217;s star has been on the wane for decades, as he keeps reinventing his  &#8216;theory&#8217; every couple of years, usually in reaction to the discoveries of others. Read something about Functionalism in linguistics, will ya? As for universal grammar, its boundaries have been chipped away to such a degree that there is little left you might recognize from earlier incarnations.</p>
<p>My own research concerns iconicity in language. The diehard Chomskyan will declare that Language is symbolic (because of Saussurean arbitrariness delinking form from semantic content). But even in languages as poor in &#8216;sound symbolism&#8217; as English and most European languages still have tons of other iconic formations not involving sound-meaning.</p>
<p>There are languages by the hundreds out there where iconicity far outweighs symbolicity, as well as those where Peircean indexicality outweighs both symbolicity and iconicity. Chomsky didn&#8217;t bother in any real sense to try to gauge the real range of properties across the spectrum of currently living human languages- he simply assumed, from his limited knowledge base, that all languages MUST be similar underlyingly, and then tried to get the rest of the world to believe it too. Most successfully, I might add. For a while&#8230;. But when you flip-flop intellectually as much as Chomsky has (which would put Mitt Romney to shame had he been a linguist and not a politician), you start to lose adherents. Trying to destroy your students who see things a bit differently doesn&#8217;t win you fans either.</p>
<p>But I digress.  Some of the iconic properties of human languages point in an interesting direction with regard to the origins and evolution of same. The first has to do with the nature of phonemic mappings to meaning.  If one examines many thousands of onomatopes and ideophones across different languages, language families, language types, and geographical regions some mapping preferences emerge. One set links articulatory positions to meanings, and interestingly this relates to the anatomy and function of the articulators at those positions nonlinguistically. Thus it appears that humans exapted the existing materials processing functions of the oral and airway passages to communication- this shouldn&#8217;t be too much of a surprise,  since this is seen with other animals when they adapt existing external articulators to communication (usually this involves physical reduction of the organ, rendering it less able to perform its original function, but this also facilitates its use in the new one).</p>
<p>Secondly, the form/meaning mappings form a coherent system, in terms of the phonological features of the phonemes- labials and dentals (diffuse feature) oppose velars and palatals (compact), labials and velars (grave) oppose dentals and palatals (acute). Interestingly, labials then connect to palatals, and dentals to velars, indicating a tetrahedral symmetry here. There is also an opposition depending on even/odd syllable count- a phoneme in the first will have a partially opposite sense to the same phoneme in the second. This all begins to look like the result of a set of matrix operations.</p>
<p>In language typology, we see different ways of packing information into roots, words, phrases and clauses, and so on. Linguistics has discovered that such packing preferences evolve cyclically over time. This involves not just whether a language has affixes or clitics, but also word order,  prosody, even the size and composition of the phonological system, and much else. More matrix mechanics??</p>
<p>All this then ties together with iconicity, symbolicity, indexicality- Index-heavy languages, those with the most elaborate derivational and grammatical morphological systems (the latter esp. the case when there is a great amount of intermorphemic fusion) have the fewest numbers of ideophones and onomatopoeias. Conversely, the languages that are most icon-heavy have the least amount of fusion, and the fewest affixes. Symbol-heavy languages tend to be a mix of icons, symbols, and indexes. What is most interesting to me is that functionally, icons seem to oppose indexes. Thus this isn&#8217;t some cline from primitive to advanced- it is a binary opposition constantly in flux. Icons focus on the external content of amessage, and tend to break up chunked transmissions. Indexes on the other hand help to chunk messages for transmission and efficient processing, and focus on the internal structure of the carriers of the messages. </p>
<p>Obviously a great deal had to have happened to create the neuroanatomical backdrop for all of the above, and not all of it likely happened at the same time. But we have millions of years between our split from the other apes to account for. It would be fascinating to know if our ancestors had all these capacities- perhaps in a few years we can clone some of these from old fossil bones or blood and find out.</p>
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		<title>By: Amelie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/crux/2011/12/07/bursting-the-bubble-of-human-intelligence/#comment-271</link>
		<dc:creator>Amelie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 20:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite right about humans not seeing the life in other animals - except for humans who have actually worked with animals and learned about them. Everyone overlooks the fact that animals evolved to live in their resepctive ecosystems. Why would a squid need to learn algebra or make tools? How we define intelligence in the animal world is patently absurd and shows no respect towards the biosphere on Earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite right about humans not seeing the life in other animals &#8211; except for humans who have actually worked with animals and learned about them. Everyone overlooks the fact that animals evolved to live in their resepctive ecosystems. Why would a squid need to learn algebra or make tools? How we define intelligence in the animal world is patently absurd and shows no respect towards the biosphere on Earth.</p>
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		<title>By: amphiox</title>
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		<dc:creator>amphiox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 19:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Osward, it has already been demonstrated very convincingly that chimpanees, bonobos, elephants, dolphins, parrots, and crows are self aware, to a degree at least equivalent to that of a young human child of 2-3 years. At least.

Even the octopus might be as well.

And these are just the few species we have managed to test so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Osward, it has already been demonstrated very convincingly that chimpanees, bonobos, elephants, dolphins, parrots, and crows are self aware, to a degree at least equivalent to that of a young human child of 2-3 years. At least.</p>
<p>Even the octopus might be as well.</p>
<p>And these are just the few species we have managed to test so far.</p>
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		<title>By: Timmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 20:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is right to highlight the ways in which our perceptions of animal behavior and cognition may be prejudiced.  This is especially true if those prejudices might have deep roots in the natural ways in which we intuitively understand how other human beings are acting and behaving.  But, it does not follow from the existence of such prejudices that there is nothing qualitatively different about human cognition.

The &quot;radical&quot; hypothesis about the nature and origin of human language described in this piece seems to contradict well-established ideas about language acquisition in cognitive science, psychology, and linguistics.  Since the Chomskyean revolution, it is now widely accepted that there is a system of principles, rules, conditions, and properties common to all human languages.  A knowledge of this &quot;universal grammar&quot; (UG) is hard-wired into us: it is part of our innate, genetic endowment as human beings.  Moreover, the language faculty is unique to human beings; no other organisms are known to possess this mental organ.

So, it seems highly unlikely that &quot;spoken language got structured via cultural evolution to sound like the events occurring among solid objects.&quot;  Our knowledge of language has properties that are unique to language and are not shared by other aspect of human thinking.  For example, the syntax of all human languages shows structure-dependency.  This means that operations on sentences (like the formation of a question) requires a knowledge of structural relationships within a sentence and not merely their linear order.  But, structure-dependency is not a property of other aspects of human thinking.  The uniqueness of linguistic principles like this suggests that our capacity for language comes from a distinct faculty that is, at least in some respects, qualitatively different from our other cognitive architecture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is right to highlight the ways in which our perceptions of animal behavior and cognition may be prejudiced.  This is especially true if those prejudices might have deep roots in the natural ways in which we intuitively understand how other human beings are acting and behaving.  But, it does not follow from the existence of such prejudices that there is nothing qualitatively different about human cognition.</p>
<p>The &#8220;radical&#8221; hypothesis about the nature and origin of human language described in this piece seems to contradict well-established ideas about language acquisition in cognitive science, psychology, and linguistics.  Since the Chomskyean revolution, it is now widely accepted that there is a system of principles, rules, conditions, and properties common to all human languages.  A knowledge of this &#8220;universal grammar&#8221; (UG) is hard-wired into us: it is part of our innate, genetic endowment as human beings.  Moreover, the language faculty is unique to human beings; no other organisms are known to possess this mental organ.</p>
<p>So, it seems highly unlikely that &#8220;spoken language got structured via cultural evolution to sound like the events occurring among solid objects.&#8221;  Our knowledge of language has properties that are unique to language and are not shared by other aspect of human thinking.  For example, the syntax of all human languages shows structure-dependency.  This means that operations on sentences (like the formation of a question) requires a knowledge of structural relationships within a sentence and not merely their linear order.  But, structure-dependency is not a property of other aspects of human thinking.  The uniqueness of linguistic principles like this suggests that our capacity for language comes from a distinct faculty that is, at least in some respects, qualitatively different from our other cognitive architecture.</p>
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		<title>By: Amos Zeeberg (Discover Web Editor)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amos Zeeberg (Discover Web Editor)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 16:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gary T: I don&#039;t think a species&#039; technological accomplishment is a good barometer of its intelligence. Humans were &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatomically_modern_humans&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;anatomically modern&quot;&lt;/a&gt; about 200k years ago. We&#039;ve changed genetically since then but not all that much -- still the same subspecies. But if you look at the technological achievement of humans 200k years ago, right up until the time of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_modernity&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;behavioral modernity&lt;/a&gt; (i.e., most of human history), you&#039;d think those people were a lot more like chimps than the people alive today. And that&#039;s demonstrably false.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gary T: I don&#8217;t think a species&#8217; technological accomplishment is a good barometer of its intelligence. Humans were <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatomically_modern_humans" rel="nofollow">&#8220;anatomically modern&#8221;</a> about 200k years ago. We&#8217;ve changed genetically since then but not all that much &#8212; still the same subspecies. But if you look at the technological achievement of humans 200k years ago, right up until the time of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_modernity" rel="nofollow">behavioral modernity</a> (i.e., most of human history), you&#8217;d think those people were a lot more like chimps than the people alive today. And that&#8217;s demonstrably false.</p>
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		<title>By: Osward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Osward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 08:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be self aware is the highest form of intelligence; until scientist can prove that an ape is truly self aware one cannot conclude that mans intelligence over other animals is merely of degree not of form.</description>
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		<title>By: Jim Dodds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Dodds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 04:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems right to me: the reverse Goldilocks Principle, obviously. It&#039;s also prudent to remember that we&#039;ve been around for several million years and we&#039;ve only been doing art and writing for several hundred thousand. It&#039;s not being able to do something. Neanderthals could have built a wheel, but no one saw any reason to do things differently than they were being done, and that&#039;s the flash point. What ever happened about those reports of a larger species of chimps in Africa that were using fire?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems right to me: the reverse Goldilocks Principle, obviously. It&#8217;s also prudent to remember that we&#8217;ve been around for several million years and we&#8217;ve only been doing art and writing for several hundred thousand. It&#8217;s not being able to do something. Neanderthals could have built a wheel, but no one saw any reason to do things differently than they were being done, and that&#8217;s the flash point. What ever happened about those reports of a larger species of chimps in Africa that were using fire?</p>
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