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	<title>Comments on: 5 Ways to Turn a Liberal Into a Conservative (At Least Until the Hangover Sets In)</title>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Lin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/crux/2012/04/20/five-ways-to-turn-a-liberal-into-a-conservative-at-least-until-the-hangover-sets-in/#comment-2524</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy Lin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2013 07:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article is either an attempt at a nuanced satire, or the ranting of a truly insane mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is either an attempt at a nuanced satire, or the ranting of a truly insane mind.</p>
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		<title>By: drlarrymitchell</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/crux/2012/04/20/five-ways-to-turn-a-liberal-into-a-conservative-at-least-until-the-hangover-sets-in/#comment-2507</link>
		<dc:creator>drlarrymitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2013 22:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but you sound stupid while doing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but you sound stupid while doing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam i am</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/crux/2012/04/20/five-ways-to-turn-a-liberal-into-a-conservative-at-least-until-the-hangover-sets-in/#comment-2477</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam i am</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the liberals and conservatives spit insults at each other Washington is raping us all. Its obvious their divide and conquer ploy is working beautifully.

Divided we fall, and now we&#039;ve all fallen so low we are all licking the boots of our new Orwellian overlords.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the liberals and conservatives spit insults at each other Washington is raping us all. Its obvious their divide and conquer ploy is working beautifully.</p>
<p>Divided we fall, and now we&#8217;ve all fallen so low we are all licking the boots of our new Orwellian overlords.</p>
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		<title>By: YeaRight</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/crux/2012/04/20/five-ways-to-turn-a-liberal-into-a-conservative-at-least-until-the-hangover-sets-in/#comment-1083</link>
		<dc:creator>YeaRight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 20:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conservative and liberal &quot;terms&quot;? What?

Of course I can already guess they called &quot;civil rights&quot; liberal and &quot;authority&quot; conservative. What about how conservatives completely disregard scientific &quot;authority&quot; on global warming and what about how pro-lifers think fetuses need &quot;civil rights&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conservative and liberal &#8220;terms&#8221;? What?</p>
<p>Of course I can already guess they called &#8220;civil rights&#8221; liberal and &#8220;authority&#8221; conservative. What about how conservatives completely disregard scientific &#8220;authority&#8221; on global warming and what about how pro-lifers think fetuses need &#8220;civil rights&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: olympus Mons</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/crux/2012/04/20/five-ways-to-turn-a-liberal-into-a-conservative-at-least-until-the-hangover-sets-in/#comment-1082</link>
		<dc:creator>olympus Mons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 10:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that we are at it…

Being a liberal is a leftover of the Paleolithic, forager, societies and (in very liberal particularly) is the remaining of those Paleolithic tribes that were “Cad “societies (Cads vs Dads). Humans were stuck in the Paleolithic for 150,000 years so the brand of these “Cads” in our epigenetics is still very large. Cads, lived (event today like the yonomano) in groups and are called Cads because “it takes a village” to raise their children (very low parental effort, they like to do other stuff) instead of a family and actually leave of the work of others (mostly women which provide 85% of calorie intake)  and in time of scarceness they just decide to “spread the wealth” naturally of the other tribes (they pillage)… You get the picture.

Then it came the Neolithic (10,000 Ya), the farmers, and the “Dads”  took over the planet.  That’s when the “conservative” took over the planet. They knew that if they work hard (screw effort discounting!) they “stayed the course” most often than not they could harvest the result. So conservatives, sorry Neolithic farmers, knew that you “reap what you sow” and that it takes a “family to raise a child”  (hence the Dad) not a village and so forth... you get the picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that we are at it…</p>
<p>Being a liberal is a leftover of the Paleolithic, forager, societies and (in very liberal particularly) is the remaining of those Paleolithic tribes that were “Cad “societies (Cads vs Dads). Humans were stuck in the Paleolithic for 150,000 years so the brand of these “Cads” in our epigenetics is still very large. Cads, lived (event today like the yonomano) in groups and are called Cads because “it takes a village” to raise their children (very low parental effort, they like to do other stuff) instead of a family and actually leave of the work of others (mostly women which provide 85% of calorie intake)  and in time of scarceness they just decide to “spread the wealth” naturally of the other tribes (they pillage)… You get the picture.</p>
<p>Then it came the Neolithic (10,000 Ya), the farmers, and the “Dads”  took over the planet.  That’s when the “conservative” took over the planet. They knew that if they work hard (screw effort discounting!) they “stayed the course” most often than not they could harvest the result. So conservatives, sorry Neolithic farmers, knew that you “reap what you sow” and that it takes a “family to raise a child”  (hence the Dad) not a village and so forth&#8230; you get the picture.</p>
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		<title>By: olympus Mons</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/crux/2012/04/20/five-ways-to-turn-a-liberal-into-a-conservative-at-least-until-the-hangover-sets-in/#comment-1081</link>
		<dc:creator>olympus Mons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 09:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oddly enough not a single comment about Jonathan Haid’s work:

a)	Liberals use only two of the five moral pillars that humans seem to share all around the planet, therefore a conservative is just a more complex being then a liberal.
b)	Of all the 5 socio-politic groups  (very liberal, liberal, moderates, conservative , very conservative) the only ones… the only ones… that cannot adequately represent the other groups point of view are the liberals and very liberals.
c)	Others have identify that liberals are dominated by a larger ACC (anterior cingulated cortex) and amongst other things ACC is responsible for “Effort discounting”. Meaning, “if its difficult then I don’t want to do it”.

Just a couple of avenues that you could use to expand your research. Anyway, others already mentioned bias, didn´t they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oddly enough not a single comment about Jonathan Haid’s work:</p>
<p>a)	Liberals use only two of the five moral pillars that humans seem to share all around the planet, therefore a conservative is just a more complex being then a liberal.<br />
b)	Of all the 5 socio-politic groups  (very liberal, liberal, moderates, conservative , very conservative) the only ones… the only ones… that cannot adequately represent the other groups point of view are the liberals and very liberals.<br />
c)	Others have identify that liberals are dominated by a larger ACC (anterior cingulated cortex) and amongst other things ACC is responsible for “Effort discounting”. Meaning, “if its difficult then I don’t want to do it”.</p>
<p>Just a couple of avenues that you could use to expand your research. Anyway, others already mentioned bias, didn´t they?</p>
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		<title>By: PowerOfNow</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/crux/2012/04/20/five-ways-to-turn-a-liberal-into-a-conservative-at-least-until-the-hangover-sets-in/#comment-1080</link>
		<dc:creator>PowerOfNow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 17:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read part of the &quot;study&quot; this article refers too. It made this claim and stated it as a fact.

&quot;Conservatives blame poverty on self-indulgence and on a lack of moral standards....&quot;

Really???  Does this sound familiar? Those rich people with thier yachts. They don&#039;t have to work for all that money (self indulgence).  They are greedy and corrupt (lack of moral standards). These are generalizations of a liberal thinker. A premise just as incorrect as his.

This kind of generalization is not science. It is very biased and hurtful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read part of the &#8220;study&#8221; this article refers too. It made this claim and stated it as a fact.</p>
<p>&#8220;Conservatives blame poverty on self-indulgence and on a lack of moral standards&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Really???  Does this sound familiar? Those rich people with thier yachts. They don&#8217;t have to work for all that money (self indulgence).  They are greedy and corrupt (lack of moral standards). These are generalizations of a liberal thinker. A premise just as incorrect as his.</p>
<p>This kind of generalization is not science. It is very biased and hurtful.</p>
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		<title>By: Karin Cavanaugh</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/crux/2012/04/20/five-ways-to-turn-a-liberal-into-a-conservative-at-least-until-the-hangover-sets-in/#comment-1079</link>
		<dc:creator>Karin Cavanaugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 18:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would still be a democrat if the party hadn&#039;t begun embracing agendas that I as a Christian can no longer live with.  Even though I still agree with many of their other issues, I cannot vote for a party that endorses abortion.  I suspect this issue is at the heart of many conversions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would still be a democrat if the party hadn&#8217;t begun embracing agendas that I as a Christian can no longer live with.  Even though I still agree with many of their other issues, I cannot vote for a party that endorses abortion.  I suspect this issue is at the heart of many conversions.</p>
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		<title>By: Prentice</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/crux/2012/04/20/five-ways-to-turn-a-liberal-into-a-conservative-at-least-until-the-hangover-sets-in/#comment-1078</link>
		<dc:creator>Prentice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While reading throught all the comments on this article it dawned on me that Discover may be publishing the results of studies that can&quot;t be substantiated. This(in my opinion) is not good. As a publisher of a science based magazine the editors should be very careful and research these studies so as to be sure these articles are true and unbiased. Readers have strong feelings about their beliefs and they will generally let them be known. Articles like this one could cause Discover to lose quite a few subscriptions. Including my own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While reading throught all the comments on this article it dawned on me that Discover may be publishing the results of studies that can&#8221;t be substantiated. This(in my opinion) is not good. As a publisher of a science based magazine the editors should be very careful and research these studies so as to be sure these articles are true and unbiased. Readers have strong feelings about their beliefs and they will generally let them be known. Articles like this one could cause Discover to lose quite a few subscriptions. Including my own.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/crux/2012/04/20/five-ways-to-turn-a-liberal-into-a-conservative-at-least-until-the-hangover-sets-in/#comment-1077</link>
		<dc:creator>Tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 01:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a bunch of nonsense. As my father a scientist(Microbologist) says &quot;Crappy data in...crappy data out&quot;. And as a  scientist myself, an Ecologist; I can say this quoting of obviously &quot;unscientific&quot; study parameters is so broad as to have no merit whatsoever in the context of empirical data that could be deduced as facts! Really what it comes down to is that Chris Mooney is a Journalist first and formost and that alone; tells me that this put together writing is nothing but politcal spin fitting his political lean to push an politcal agenda that points to what politcal ideology is superior in rationality according to a preset of parameters designed to lean one way or the other given to what his spin is politcally!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a bunch of nonsense. As my father a scientist(Microbologist) says &#8220;Crappy data in&#8230;crappy data out&#8221;. And as a  scientist myself, an Ecologist; I can say this quoting of obviously &#8220;unscientific&#8221; study parameters is so broad as to have no merit whatsoever in the context of empirical data that could be deduced as facts! Really what it comes down to is that Chris Mooney is a Journalist first and formost and that alone; tells me that this put together writing is nothing but politcal spin fitting his political lean to push an politcal agenda that points to what politcal ideology is superior in rationality according to a preset of parameters designed to lean one way or the other given to what his spin is politcally!</p>
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