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	<title>Comments on: Turning Japanese, or, How to Change Your Self&#8217;s Ethnicity in Just 1 Week</title>
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		<title>By: Vickie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vickie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 00:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes yes yes. This is what I&#039;ve been saying to all those &quot;do-gooders&quot; who show up in Hawaii and immediately start instructing everyone on Political Correctness and how we all are supposed to do the &quot;asian-american&quot; and all the other contrived mainland naming games. 

In Hawaii (a VERY Asian place) we are all alike. WE choose to rattle off our ancestries because we are proud of them - &quot;Filipino-chinese-Hawaiian, what are you?&quot; is a common conversation as a point of connection. Because we don&#039;t see what mainlanders see. If you think one week in Japan changed you, consider what a decade or two does to a mainland Caucasian who moves there. We look at all the handwringing about PC with some confusion. Few people in Hawaii feel they need to be &quot;protected&quot; by not mentioning what their race is. In fact, when we get that lecture, we are slightly annoyed. The message to someone in Hawaii when we hear about using those hyphenated -american phrases is that somehow the person speaking is criticizing the ancestry as if there is something wrong with it. &quot;Don&#039;t let her know she&#039;s Japanese, she might get offended!&quot; 

And YES - this has to do with adaptation. Once you live in Hawaii for even a month you begin to understand the saying, &quot;we are all related.&quot; The baseline shifts and you are always surrounded by a multitude of multi-culturally mixed people. More than 50% if all new marriages in Hawaii are multi-racial. So no one gets to claim victimhood. (Although some do try, and often those are agitators from the outside. Or those who have a hidden agenda.) 

I was in shock when I moved to the mainland after 4 decades in Hawaii. I&#039;m caucasian, but it was shocking to see so many white faces. My kids are part-Hawaiian and one of them is very dark because she surfs all the time. She also carries my red hair gene, so that makes for an interesting and exotic picture. But in Hawaii that&#039;s normal. They call it &quot;ehu hair.&quot; My theory is that there are many Hawaiians with the red hair gene because as some UH studies show the Vikings may have  had an outpost there circa 900 AD,  and the Viking Ship project is studying that now as well... www.kilts.co.nz/longship.htm

Adaptation? We are all one. We all descended from the explorers and wanderers from around the planet. Perhaps we recognize each other after a time in proximity because we recognize our own relatives through the mask of different eyes and skin/hair colors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes yes yes. This is what I&#8217;ve been saying to all those &#8220;do-gooders&#8221; who show up in Hawaii and immediately start instructing everyone on Political Correctness and how we all are supposed to do the &#8220;asian-american&#8221; and all the other contrived mainland naming games. </p>
<p>In Hawaii (a VERY Asian place) we are all alike. WE choose to rattle off our ancestries because we are proud of them &#8211; &#8220;Filipino-chinese-Hawaiian, what are you?&#8221; is a common conversation as a point of connection. Because we don&#8217;t see what mainlanders see. If you think one week in Japan changed you, consider what a decade or two does to a mainland Caucasian who moves there. We look at all the handwringing about PC with some confusion. Few people in Hawaii feel they need to be &#8220;protected&#8221; by not mentioning what their race is. In fact, when we get that lecture, we are slightly annoyed. The message to someone in Hawaii when we hear about using those hyphenated -american phrases is that somehow the person speaking is criticizing the ancestry as if there is something wrong with it. &#8220;Don&#8217;t let her know she&#8217;s Japanese, she might get offended!&#8221; </p>
<p>And YES &#8211; this has to do with adaptation. Once you live in Hawaii for even a month you begin to understand the saying, &#8220;we are all related.&#8221; The baseline shifts and you are always surrounded by a multitude of multi-culturally mixed people. More than 50% if all new marriages in Hawaii are multi-racial. So no one gets to claim victimhood. (Although some do try, and often those are agitators from the outside. Or those who have a hidden agenda.) </p>
<p>I was in shock when I moved to the mainland after 4 decades in Hawaii. I&#8217;m caucasian, but it was shocking to see so many white faces. My kids are part-Hawaiian and one of them is very dark because she surfs all the time. She also carries my red hair gene, so that makes for an interesting and exotic picture. But in Hawaii that&#8217;s normal. They call it &#8220;ehu hair.&#8221; My theory is that there are many Hawaiians with the red hair gene because as some UH studies show the Vikings may have  had an outpost there circa 900 AD,  and the Viking Ship project is studying that now as well&#8230; <a href="http://www.kilts.co.nz/longship.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.kilts.co.nz/longship.htm</a></p>
<p>Adaptation? We are all one. We all descended from the explorers and wanderers from around the planet. Perhaps we recognize each other after a time in proximity because we recognize our own relatives through the mask of different eyes and skin/hair colors.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2012 22:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the Cool observations of mental adaptation and the mention of the time frames in which the adaptations occurred both in the authors writing and guest responders.  I wonder if the changes are age related ...the younger you are the faster you adapt? I also wonder if living in a large city would change the impact?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the Cool observations of mental adaptation and the mention of the time frames in which the adaptations occurred both in the authors writing and guest responders.  I wonder if the changes are age related &#8230;the younger you are the faster you adapt? I also wonder if living in a large city would change the impact?</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2012 15:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my wife and i were reared in los angeles cal.  we as very adults lived in dominican republic for 6 months, living as  dominicanos (with some, not much, money.) i had lived in argentina for nearly 3 years as an argentine and annually returned for two months to renew my castellano, che.  i easily adapt to my environment.

to both of us after a few wks the dominicanos were no longer dark. they looked like me/us so to speak. i didn&#039;t see dominicanos as &quot;caucasian&quot; but rather i thought i looked like them.  she  had a hard time adjusting to the culture (i.e., poverty) but slowly she was becoming dominicana.

same thing happened to me in argentina as a young man; i didn&#039;t know any spanish when i moved there.  i learned castellano porteno in bs as, then moved to the North. after a while i began to speak castellano like &quot;a native&quot; which confused a lot of argentines because i was obviously a native, i looked like them (and they looked like me) but i wasn&#039;t &quot;quite an argentino&quot; from their neighborhood/city/province because of my accent.  all in 3 months.

todavia, soy argentino. chevere</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my wife and i were reared in los angeles cal.  we as very adults lived in dominican republic for 6 months, living as  dominicanos (with some, not much, money.) i had lived in argentina for nearly 3 years as an argentine and annually returned for two months to renew my castellano, che.  i easily adapt to my environment.</p>
<p>to both of us after a few wks the dominicanos were no longer dark. they looked like me/us so to speak. i didn&#8217;t see dominicanos as &#8220;caucasian&#8221; but rather i thought i looked like them.  she  had a hard time adjusting to the culture (i.e., poverty) but slowly she was becoming dominicana.</p>
<p>same thing happened to me in argentina as a young man; i didn&#8217;t know any spanish when i moved there.  i learned castellano porteno in bs as, then moved to the North. after a while i began to speak castellano like &#8220;a native&#8221; which confused a lot of argentines because i was obviously a native, i looked like them (and they looked like me) but i wasn&#8217;t &#8220;quite an argentino&#8221; from their neighborhood/city/province because of my accent.  all in 3 months.</p>
<p>todavia, soy argentino. chevere</p>
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		<title>By: floodmouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>floodmouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2012 13:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In university, my research work in history was on white missionaries working among a population of Native Americans.  I also did some reading about missionaries in China, and just a smattering about missionaries in Africa.  It was commonly reported that the white children of missionaries, going to school surrounded by Native American or Chinese faces, would regarding themselves as the ones who were different, and their classmates as the ones who were normal.  (This sometimes upset the missionaries, who didn&#039;t want their kids &quot;going native.&quot;)  I also visited Kenya once.  Unfortunately I can&#039;t say I had a full immersion experience, since I was surrounded mostly by a white tour group, but I did have the experience of starting to appreciate differences I had never noticed before among black Africans (faces, body types, and personality).  

I appreciate Mr. Changizi&#039;s post for bringing to my attention the neuropsychological basis for this phenomenon.  As a recovering liberal arts major, I read Discover magazine partly to learn the science behind things I already think I know - and to disillusion myself about the rest.  Thank you to everyone for sharing all their personal experiences of travel.  It&#039;s interesting to hear about places I&#039;ve never been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In university, my research work in history was on white missionaries working among a population of Native Americans.  I also did some reading about missionaries in China, and just a smattering about missionaries in Africa.  It was commonly reported that the white children of missionaries, going to school surrounded by Native American or Chinese faces, would regarding themselves as the ones who were different, and their classmates as the ones who were normal.  (This sometimes upset the missionaries, who didn&#8217;t want their kids &#8220;going native.&#8221;)  I also visited Kenya once.  Unfortunately I can&#8217;t say I had a full immersion experience, since I was surrounded mostly by a white tour group, but I did have the experience of starting to appreciate differences I had never noticed before among black Africans (faces, body types, and personality).  </p>
<p>I appreciate Mr. Changizi&#8217;s post for bringing to my attention the neuropsychological basis for this phenomenon.  As a recovering liberal arts major, I read Discover magazine partly to learn the science behind things I already think I know &#8211; and to disillusion myself about the rest.  Thank you to everyone for sharing all their personal experiences of travel.  It&#8217;s interesting to hear about places I&#8217;ve never been.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaviani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaviani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 13:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SNAP, Naomi!  Yes, Discover blogs are turning into shill stations these days.  That this is flippantly fetishized makes it that much more dubious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SNAP, Naomi!  Yes, Discover blogs are turning into shill stations these days.  That this is flippantly fetishized makes it that much more dubious.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 01:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, I was also just in Tokyo for a week.  For me, I never really thought different faces looked alike.  Instead, my adaptations were all based around the tiny little cultural norms of the train system.  Immediately getting on the left side of an escalator.  Scrambling for a seat when folks got up to get off at the next stop.  Lining up neatly on the edges of the doors so that people getting off the train could exit more swiftly.   Learn that &quot;person entry&quot; on a train meant that someone had likely committed suicide.... (or &quot;Chuo-cide&quot; as my host derisively called it, as the Chuo rapid express was the favorite target of suicidal people because it was the fastest train in Tokyo proper.)

I&#039;ll never ride the DC Metro or BART the same way again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, I was also just in Tokyo for a week.  For me, I never really thought different faces looked alike.  Instead, my adaptations were all based around the tiny little cultural norms of the train system.  Immediately getting on the left side of an escalator.  Scrambling for a seat when folks got up to get off at the next stop.  Lining up neatly on the edges of the doors so that people getting off the train could exit more swiftly.   Learn that &#8220;person entry&#8221; on a train meant that someone had likely committed suicide&#8230;. (or &#8220;Chuo-cide&#8221; as my host derisively called it, as the Chuo rapid express was the favorite target of suicidal people because it was the fastest train in Tokyo proper.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll never ride the DC Metro or BART the same way again.</p>
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		<title>By: Hansa Schnyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hansa Schnyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 12:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The exact same thing happened to me when I went to Japan for a semester. Gradually Japanese faces reminded me of friends back home (- Japanese baseline + Caucasian baseline). 
But the oddest and most unpleasant part was, the longer my stay continued the bigger my nose grew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The exact same thing happened to me when I went to Japan for a semester. Gradually Japanese faces reminded me of friends back home (- Japanese baseline + Caucasian baseline).<br />
But the oddest and most unpleasant part was, the longer my stay continued the bigger my nose grew.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Licht</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Licht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 20:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It goes without saying that Japanese people still regarded you as ... &quot;other.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It goes without saying that Japanese people still regarded you as &#8230; &#8220;other.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: naomi</title>
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		<dc:creator>naomi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 15:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flashy title designed to lure readers in? Check. Common knowledge being touted as  &quot;mind-blowing&quot;? Check. Soft science and overstated stories from the author&#039;s life designed to make this science easy enough for the unwashed masses to understand? Check. Promotion of the author&#039;s own book? Check.

As I suspected, it&#039;s the rom-com of science writing. Yawn...

And by the way, Mr. Changizi, my skin does not look &quot;uncolorey-to-me.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flashy title designed to lure readers in? Check. Common knowledge being touted as  &#8220;mind-blowing&#8221;? Check. Soft science and overstated stories from the author&#8217;s life designed to make this science easy enough for the unwashed masses to understand? Check. Promotion of the author&#8217;s own book? Check.</p>
<p>As I suspected, it&#8217;s the rom-com of science writing. Yawn&#8230;</p>
<p>And by the way, Mr. Changizi, my skin does not look &#8220;uncolorey-to-me.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 02:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, looking Robert-DeNiroish, that&#039;s a good category. The same thing happened to me in Thailand. And even with food. At first, every soup tasted kind of the same to me (too spiiicyy!!!) but after a while I learned to manage the spiciness and appreciate the different variations of soups much more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, looking Robert-DeNiroish, that&#8217;s a good category. The same thing happened to me in Thailand. And even with food. At first, every soup tasted kind of the same to me (too spiiicyy!!!) but after a while I learned to manage the spiciness and appreciate the different variations of soups much more.</p>
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