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	<title>Comments on: Did a Guy Find a Cure for Cancer Using Pie Tins and Hot Dogs?</title>
	<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/discoblog/2008/04/16/did-a-guy-find-the-cure-for-cancer-using-pie-tins-and-hot-dogs/</link>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lawrence B. Ebert</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/discoblog/2008/04/16/did-a-guy-find-the-cure-for-cancer-using-pie-tins-and-hot-dogs/#comment-6546</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawrence B. Ebert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 03:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of --Who cares if you have to expend more energy to burn the fuel if it is renewable energy you are expending.   --, why expend the energy to separate H2 and O2?  The process of separation is NOT 100% efficient, so you might as well use the energy from the wind turbine directly!  The response to your query is that you are adding an extra, inefficient, step for no reason.  Returning to the "hot dog" matter, one notes that the other "inventors" on the U.S. case are all medical doctors, presumably hoping to profit from the patent, if it issues.  The one "metal" tested was (well-known) colloidal gold, passed off as gold nanoparticles for public relations purposes.  As to the rf matter, ablation techniques were already well-known.  There remains no excuse for the trickery with the non-metallic copper sulfate.  Merely a hoax for the rubes.  "Discover" ought to know better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of &#8211;Who cares if you have to expend more energy to burn the fuel if it is renewable energy you are expending.   &#8211;, why expend the energy to separate H2 and O2?  The process of separation is NOT 100% efficient, so you might as well use the energy from the wind turbine directly!  The response to your query is that you are adding an extra, inefficient, step for no reason.  Returning to the &#8220;hot dog&#8221; matter, one notes that the other &#8220;inventors&#8221; on the U.S. case are all medical doctors, presumably hoping to profit from the patent, if it issues.  The one &#8220;metal&#8221; tested was (well-known) colloidal gold, passed off as gold nanoparticles for public relations purposes.  As to the rf matter, ablation techniques were already well-known.  There remains no excuse for the trickery with the non-metallic copper sulfate.  Merely a hoax for the rubes.  &#8220;Discover&#8221; ought to know better.</p>
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		<title>By: cheyenne</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/discoblog/2008/04/16/did-a-guy-find-the-cure-for-cancer-using-pie-tins-and-hot-dogs/#comment-6543</link>
		<dc:creator>cheyenne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/discoblog/2008/04/16/did-a-guy-find-the-cure-for-cancer-using-pie-tins-and-hot-dogs/#comment-6543</guid>
		<description>so did he make a cure for cancer with hot dogs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so did he make a cure for cancer with hot dogs?</p>
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		<title>By: rjs08</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/discoblog/2008/04/16/did-a-guy-find-the-cure-for-cancer-using-pie-tins-and-hot-dogs/#comment-6541</link>
		<dc:creator>rjs08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 05:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/discoblog/2008/04/16/did-a-guy-find-the-cure-for-cancer-using-pie-tins-and-hot-dogs/#comment-6541</guid>
		<description>So I understand that you can't break the laws of thermodynamics to get a wash on energy produced versus energy expended.  But perhaps someone with a better grasp on engineering can quell my curiosity.  Who cares if you have to expend more energy to burn the fuel if it is renewable energy you are expending.  For example:  I noted that John Kanzius' rf machine needed about 200 watts to generate the radio frequency that would cause the saltwater to separate the H and O2 molecules and to ignite the H.  So if you were to apply this to a vehicle for instance.  A wind turbine can generate 200 watts at 8 meters per second or perhaps less.  Why couldn't you rig up a scoop and turbine in a vehicle designed to generate the same and augment it with solar cells on the roof and perhaps Lithium ion or other batteries to store excess energy?  With this combination or other more innovative ideas, it wouldn't matter if you were using more energy to create the H burn would you?  You would have a constant fuel supply as long as you were generating 200 watts of power capable of running the RF machine.  Please respond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I understand that you can&#8217;t break the laws of thermodynamics to get a wash on energy produced versus energy expended.  But perhaps someone with a better grasp on engineering can quell my curiosity.  Who cares if you have to expend more energy to burn the fuel if it is renewable energy you are expending.  For example:  I noted that John Kanzius&#8217; rf machine needed about 200 watts to generate the radio frequency that would cause the saltwater to separate the H and O2 molecules and to ignite the H.  So if you were to apply this to a vehicle for instance.  A wind turbine can generate 200 watts at 8 meters per second or perhaps less.  Why couldn&#8217;t you rig up a scoop and turbine in a vehicle designed to generate the same and augment it with solar cells on the roof and perhaps Lithium ion or other batteries to store excess energy?  With this combination or other more innovative ideas, it wouldn&#8217;t matter if you were using more energy to create the H burn would you?  You would have a constant fuel supply as long as you were generating 200 watts of power capable of running the RF machine.  Please respond.</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence B. Ebert</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/discoblog/2008/04/16/did-a-guy-find-the-cure-for-cancer-using-pie-tins-and-hot-dogs/#comment-6539</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawrence B. Ebert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 04:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/discoblog/2008/04/16/did-a-guy-find-the-cure-for-cancer-using-pie-tins-and-hot-dogs/#comment-6539</guid>
		<description>Of --which he tested out with a copper sulfate-injected hot dog. If you’re hungry for details about how it works (or for a radio-cooked hot dog), read the patent; basically, the metal got hot, the rest of the doggie stayed cold.-- one notes copper sulfate is NOT a metal, and the hot dog got "hot" because of the metallic thermocouple in it.  When "60 Minutes" explicitly makes bogus statements on national television, one might hope
Discover would notice.

See more at ipbiz.blogspot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of &#8211;which he tested out with a copper sulfate-injected hot dog. If you’re hungry for details about how it works (or for a radio-cooked hot dog), read the patent; basically, the metal got hot, the rest of the doggie stayed cold.&#8211; one notes copper sulfate is NOT a metal, and the hot dog got &#8220;hot&#8221; because of the metallic thermocouple in it.  When &#8220;60 Minutes&#8221; explicitly makes bogus statements on national television, one might hope<br />
Discover would notice.</p>
<p>See more at ipbiz.blogspot.</p>
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		<title>By: asdf</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/discoblog/2008/04/16/did-a-guy-find-the-cure-for-cancer-using-pie-tins-and-hot-dogs/#comment-6538</link>
		<dc:creator>asdf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 00:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/discoblog/2008/04/16/did-a-guy-find-the-cure-for-cancer-using-pie-tins-and-hot-dogs/#comment-6538</guid>
		<description>wow.........
this would be AMAZING if it would come true some day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
this would be AMAZING if it would come true some day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Smith</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/discoblog/2008/04/16/did-a-guy-find-the-cure-for-cancer-using-pie-tins-and-hot-dogs/#comment-6537</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/discoblog/2008/04/16/did-a-guy-find-the-cure-for-cancer-using-pie-tins-and-hot-dogs/#comment-6537</guid>
		<description>Thanks for keeping a little journalistic integrity by adding this -

"The big problem is targeting only the cancer cells. Curley mentions that his goal is to find a way for the nanoparticles to bind only the cancer cells, but this is a serious challenge. People have already been trying to target chemo drugs for many years with limited success."

The 60 mins piece was irresponsible journalism and dangerous to boot. God bless Mr. Kanzius for being a proactive cancer patient, but if he was not, this story would be getting zero play. This has yet to prove anything new, and the challenges it presents are still the same as any proposed targeted treatment faces - how to only target cancer cells and avoid any side affects. Sure, sign me up to be infused with nano particles.

This is a great story from the angle of Mr. Kanzius' cancer. And my beef is not with him or the team trying to develop something here. My beef is with the media t large for labeling this a cure... Arsenic kills 100% of cancers cells in a petri dish also.  It is time the media and journalist start being a little critical of the medical and scientific claims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for keeping a little journalistic integrity by adding this -</p>
<p>&#8220;The big problem is targeting only the cancer cells. Curley mentions that his goal is to find a way for the nanoparticles to bind only the cancer cells, but this is a serious challenge. People have already been trying to target chemo drugs for many years with limited success.&#8221;</p>
<p>The 60 mins piece was irresponsible journalism and dangerous to boot. God bless Mr. Kanzius for being a proactive cancer patient, but if he was not, this story would be getting zero play. This has yet to prove anything new, and the challenges it presents are still the same as any proposed targeted treatment faces - how to only target cancer cells and avoid any side affects. Sure, sign me up to be infused with nano particles.</p>
<p>This is a great story from the angle of Mr. Kanzius&#8217; cancer. And my beef is not with him or the team trying to develop something here. My beef is with the media t large for labeling this a cure&#8230; Arsenic kills 100% of cancers cells in a petri dish also.  It is time the media and journalist start being a little critical of the medical and scientific claims.</p>
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