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	<title>Comments on: Crocs Chow Down on Invasive Toads, Instantly Regret It</title>
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		<title>By: Darr Sandberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darr Sandberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 02:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the word went out that cane toad liver was &quot;Nature&#039;s viagra - ten times better than rhino horn&quot; - they&#039;d be hunted to extinction in a year or two.

Bad joke aside, given how good we are as a species at driving anything useful to extinction - finding a real use for cane toads or strawberry guava wood is worth looking into.

And if scientists could/would prove that climate change is going to wipe out hops - driving up the cost of beer, middle america would be so Stop-Global-Warming-Now in a week, it&#039;d be scary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the word went out that cane toad liver was &#8220;Nature&#8217;s viagra &#8211; ten times better than rhino horn&#8221; &#8211; they&#8217;d be hunted to extinction in a year or two.</p>
<p>Bad joke aside, given how good we are as a species at driving anything useful to extinction &#8211; finding a real use for cane toads or strawberry guava wood is worth looking into.</p>
<p>And if scientists could/would prove that climate change is going to wipe out hops &#8211; driving up the cost of beer, middle america would be so Stop-Global-Warming-Now in a week, it&#8217;d be scary.</p>
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		<title>By: Franny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Franny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 00:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article is confusing &quot;introduced species&quot; with &quot;biocontrol&quot;.  Biocontrols are used regularly around the world to control harmful invasive species. Modern biocontrols are carefully investigated by scientists with backgrounds in entomology, botany, ecology, and other related fields of expertise. For instance, the proposed biocontrol insect for strawberry guava in Hawaii has undergone 15 years of research in Brazil and Hawaii, and has been tested against 81 species of plants found in Hawaii.  The insect is considered highly specialized - meaning it has evolved such a close relationship with its host plant that even when infesting a strawberry guava right next to its cousin, the common guava, it will not infect the common guava.  The insect does not even eat the plant, rather, it causes the plant to form galls, requiring the plant to put energy into making the galls and thus less energy into fruiting and spreading.  Laws in Hawaii, as in other places that employ biocontrols, have required extensive federal and state reviews and no less than 6 permits are needed to allow this release.

Cane toads, mongoose and other notorious introductions have given biocontrol an undeserved bad name.  These animals are considered &quot;generalists&quot; (meaning they eat a lot of stuff, and done&#039;t have that close individual relationship.  Such animals would never now be considered for biocontrol.  (Mongooses were introduced onto private land by cane farmers, without any research or testing.)  Since 1970, when these strict regulatory practices were adopted in Hawaii, over 100 biocontrols were released.  None have attacked non-target species, and some had spectacular success in combatting otherwise impossible invasives.  

The old stories about bad-news introduction give biocontrol a black eye, and take away a valuable resource from conservation groups, land managers, and farmers.  South Africa, New Zealand, and Australia all have records of very successful use of modern biocontrol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is confusing &#8220;introduced species&#8221; with &#8220;biocontrol&#8221;.  Biocontrols are used regularly around the world to control harmful invasive species. Modern biocontrols are carefully investigated by scientists with backgrounds in entomology, botany, ecology, and other related fields of expertise. For instance, the proposed biocontrol insect for strawberry guava in Hawaii has undergone 15 years of research in Brazil and Hawaii, and has been tested against 81 species of plants found in Hawaii.  The insect is considered highly specialized &#8211; meaning it has evolved such a close relationship with its host plant that even when infesting a strawberry guava right next to its cousin, the common guava, it will not infect the common guava.  The insect does not even eat the plant, rather, it causes the plant to form galls, requiring the plant to put energy into making the galls and thus less energy into fruiting and spreading.  Laws in Hawaii, as in other places that employ biocontrols, have required extensive federal and state reviews and no less than 6 permits are needed to allow this release.</p>
<p>Cane toads, mongoose and other notorious introductions have given biocontrol an undeserved bad name.  These animals are considered &#8220;generalists&#8221; (meaning they eat a lot of stuff, and done&#8217;t have that close individual relationship.  Such animals would never now be considered for biocontrol.  (Mongooses were introduced onto private land by cane farmers, without any research or testing.)  Since 1970, when these strict regulatory practices were adopted in Hawaii, over 100 biocontrols were released.  None have attacked non-target species, and some had spectacular success in combatting otherwise impossible invasives.  </p>
<p>The old stories about bad-news introduction give biocontrol a black eye, and take away a valuable resource from conservation groups, land managers, and farmers.  South Africa, New Zealand, and Australia all have records of very successful use of modern biocontrol.</p>
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		<title>By: Bees Become Terns&#8217; Protector from Bullies—Maybe &#124; Discoblog &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/discoblog/2008/06/06/crocs-chow-down-on-invasive-toads-instantly-regret-it/comment-page-1/#comment-10045</link>
		<dc:creator>Bees Become Terns&#8217; Protector from Bullies—Maybe &#124; Discoblog &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] another case from the &#8220;pitting one animal against another&#8221; file: Japanese conservationists want to use bees to protect terns from [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Forget the Pesticide, California Says—Just Send in Sterile Moths &#124; Discoblog &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/discoblog/2008/06/06/crocs-chow-down-on-invasive-toads-instantly-regret-it/comment-page-1/#comment-7355</link>
		<dc:creator>Forget the Pesticide, California Says—Just Send in Sterile Moths &#124; Discoblog &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] species out in the first place. But at least Californians haven&#8217;t gone down the dark path of sending in another invasive species to kill the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] species out in the first place. But at least Californians haven&#8217;t gone down the dark path of sending in another invasive species to kill the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Warner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Warner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many of today&#039;s &quot;invasive species&quot; came from consciously imported stock.  Think Kudzu vines.  Think buckthorn &amp; honeysuckle, as ones I fight weekly.  English sparrows drive blue birds from my front yard, just when I need all the insect eating birds I can find.  I understand that gray squirrels do a lot of damage in England, Scotland and Wales.

When are we going to realize that importing a species from one area into another, for _any_ reason, is simply asking for trouble?  In Wiconsin we are getting into promoting purple loose strife beetles to cut back the growth of this (very pretty but) nasty wetland destruter.  Remains to be seen yet if we got it right, or what else the beetles will decide to eat.  Some people think that they understnd the interactions in nature today.  But it&#039;s a pretty complicated ecosystem world out there.

Jay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of today&#8217;s &#8220;invasive species&#8221; came from consciously imported stock.  Think Kudzu vines.  Think buckthorn &#038; honeysuckle, as ones I fight weekly.  English sparrows drive blue birds from my front yard, just when I need all the insect eating birds I can find.  I understand that gray squirrels do a lot of damage in England, Scotland and Wales.</p>
<p>When are we going to realize that importing a species from one area into another, for _any_ reason, is simply asking for trouble?  In Wiconsin we are getting into promoting purple loose strife beetles to cut back the growth of this (very pretty but) nasty wetland destruter.  Remains to be seen yet if we got it right, or what else the beetles will decide to eat.  Some people think that they understnd the interactions in nature today.  But it&#8217;s a pretty complicated ecosystem world out there.</p>
<p>Jay</p>
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		<title>By: Alyson Irvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alyson Irvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hawaii should know better.   They also imported the cane toads, they imported the mongoose, and they had a rabbit problem from imported rabbits.  You would think they would have learned by now how badly things can go when one tries to introduce one species to control another.  Frankly, in light of their historical failure in that regard, I am shocked they would even be considering it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hawaii should know better.   They also imported the cane toads, they imported the mongoose, and they had a rabbit problem from imported rabbits.  You would think they would have learned by now how badly things can go when one tries to introduce one species to control another.  Frankly, in light of their historical failure in that regard, I am shocked they would even be considering it.</p>
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		<title>By: Carole McIntyre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carole McIntyre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back in the Fifties, there was an &quot;innovation&quot; in livestock fencing.  It was multiflora rose, said to be &quot;horse-high, bull strong, and hog-tight.&quot;  Plant this along fencerows, and forget about setting replacement posts and repairing wire.

Except. . . it seeds through pips that pass through birds&#039; digestive tracts unchanged, and the thorny exuberant bushes will sprout anywhere: in the middle of pastures, in hayfields.  It&#039;s a bear to get rid of, too.  Even goats won&#039;t eat it.  Fifty years after its introduction it&#039;s an outright problem, and has been for most of those fifty years.

I&#039;m sorry for the crocs, although they&#039;re not my favorite species.  But the lesson to be learned covers both the cane toads and the multiflora: unintended consequences of introducing strange species will get you, every time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in the Fifties, there was an &#8220;innovation&#8221; in livestock fencing.  It was multiflora rose, said to be &#8220;horse-high, bull strong, and hog-tight.&#8221;  Plant this along fencerows, and forget about setting replacement posts and repairing wire.</p>
<p>Except. . . it seeds through pips that pass through birds&#8217; digestive tracts unchanged, and the thorny exuberant bushes will sprout anywhere: in the middle of pastures, in hayfields.  It&#8217;s a bear to get rid of, too.  Even goats won&#8217;t eat it.  Fifty years after its introduction it&#8217;s an outright problem, and has been for most of those fifty years.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry for the crocs, although they&#8217;re not my favorite species.  But the lesson to be learned covers both the cane toads and the multiflora: unintended consequences of introducing strange species will get you, every time.</p>
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		<title>By: Curtis Mills</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curtis Mills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sounds like a cautionary tale for GMOs, (genetically modified food).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds like a cautionary tale for GMOs, (genetically modified food).</p>
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