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	<title>Comments on: Vatican Science: Pope Blames Male Infertility on&#8230;the Pill</title>
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		<title>By: Christina Viering</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina Viering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way too much steroids in foods!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way too much steroids in foods!</p>
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		<title>By: Tools ‹ Peace and Pot — WordPress &#171; Peace and Pot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tools ‹ Peace and Pot — WordPress &#171; Peace and Pot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] if we could just get the Pope to follow suit… Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Canadian Philosopher Wins Templeton Prize    [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In regard&#039;s to William&#039;s fish study, the article he cited was not actually a scientific paper... so I followed the link to the actual article, which linked to ANOTHER article which finally cited some actual scientific papers. After reading the abstracts to the studies it seems to suggest that a lot of the estrogen pollutants in the water may come from commercial livestock  practices rather than purely human sources. 

While stretching the results of these studies to include humans is, of course, fairly absurd, (It&#039;s difficult to transfer experimental results from rats to humans let alone fish to humans) it doesn&#039;t mean that the issue of the effects estrogen is having on fish and other aquatic wildlife should be taken lightly. You may not consider a fish&#039;s reproductive success to be as important as a human&#039;s, but the reality is we&#039;re all in this together (species-wise) so we should be taking care what goes into our waste water. This is not to say that getting rid of birth control is the answer, that&#039;s the pope&#039;s line of thought, I think.  Perhaps urging pharmaceutical companies to create a more fully metabolized hormonal supplement for birth control and choosing to eat livestock that isn&#039;t enhanced with steroids would help.

Just a suggestion :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In regard&#8217;s to William&#8217;s fish study, the article he cited was not actually a scientific paper&#8230; so I followed the link to the actual article, which linked to ANOTHER article which finally cited some actual scientific papers. After reading the abstracts to the studies it seems to suggest that a lot of the estrogen pollutants in the water may come from commercial livestock  practices rather than purely human sources. </p>
<p>While stretching the results of these studies to include humans is, of course, fairly absurd, (It&#8217;s difficult to transfer experimental results from rats to humans let alone fish to humans) it doesn&#8217;t mean that the issue of the effects estrogen is having on fish and other aquatic wildlife should be taken lightly. You may not consider a fish&#8217;s reproductive success to be as important as a human&#8217;s, but the reality is we&#8217;re all in this together (species-wise) so we should be taking care what goes into our waste water. This is not to say that getting rid of birth control is the answer, that&#8217;s the pope&#8217;s line of thought, I think.  Perhaps urging pharmaceutical companies to create a more fully metabolized hormonal supplement for birth control and choosing to eat livestock that isn&#8217;t enhanced with steroids would help.</p>
<p>Just a suggestion <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/discoblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Warning All Competitive Male Cyclists: Less than 5% of Your Sperm May Be Normal &#124; Discoblog &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warning All Competitive Male Cyclists: Less than 5% of Your Sperm May Be Normal &#124; Discoblog &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Holy Crops! Pope Backs Genetically Modified Foods &#124; Discoblog &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holy Crops! Pope Backs Genetically Modified Foods &#124; Discoblog &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: skeptic</title>
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		<dc:creator>skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 06:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the fertility clinic advert posted by &quot;VAS REVERSAL&quot; would gladly have you all take away your fertility, so that you can pay them later to get it back.  their advice is very, very unprofessional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the fertility clinic advert posted by &#8220;VAS REVERSAL&#8221; would gladly have you all take away your fertility, so that you can pay them later to get it back.  their advice is very, very unprofessional.</p>
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		<title>By: skeptic</title>
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		<dc:creator>skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 06:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is not just the pope.  Buddhists who believe in cause and effect might also suspect something that has been added to the water.  If you don&#039;t care, go ahead a drink up but it is selfish to subject everyone else to it.  By the way, telling someone to take a pill used to mean the doctor didn&#039;t consider your problem bad enough to think harder about.  today, it might means, take the pill, because you are so ugly no one wants to have kids who look like you.  the media of course, also tells you you are ugly.  so, both pharmacy and media agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is not just the pope.  Buddhists who believe in cause and effect might also suspect something that has been added to the water.  If you don&#8217;t care, go ahead a drink up but it is selfish to subject everyone else to it.  By the way, telling someone to take a pill used to mean the doctor didn&#8217;t consider your problem bad enough to think harder about.  today, it might means, take the pill, because you are so ugly no one wants to have kids who look like you.  the media of course, also tells you you are ugly.  so, both pharmacy and media agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Rockne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rockne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 10:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The hormones in plastics and pesticides’ are the main culprit in fish.
As usual the Pope is misrepresenting the facts to fit his agenda. But what else would one expect from a good Hitler youth the things we learn in childhood stay with us for life eugenics anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hormones in plastics and pesticides’ are the main culprit in fish.<br />
As usual the Pope is misrepresenting the facts to fit his agenda. But what else would one expect from a good Hitler youth the things we learn in childhood stay with us for life eugenics anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: CA Vasectomy Reversal</title>
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		<dc:creator>CA Vasectomy Reversal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you, Jill.  This has nothing to do with human fertility, I suppose.  Contraceptive pills may have effect on hormones in the body but do they really cause male infertility? 

-Martin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you, Jill.  This has nothing to do with human fertility, I suppose.  Contraceptive pills may have effect on hormones in the body but do they really cause male infertility? </p>
<p>-Martin</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, William, but the studies you are quoting discuss the feminizing affects of sewage water effluent on FISH not humans. This may or may not have anything to do with HUMAN fertility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, William, but the studies you are quoting discuss the feminizing affects of sewage water effluent on FISH not humans. This may or may not have anything to do with HUMAN fertility.</p>
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