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		<title>By: John Abramson</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Abramson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 23:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plural : platypuses</description>
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		<title>By: John Abramson</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Abramson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 23:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought it was always platypie, but I was wrong!
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		<title>By: hi</title>
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		<dc:creator>hi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 18:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>freakin beast</description>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intelligent design my ass. </description>
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		<title>By: Christ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 08:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i proudly submit the mantis shrimp. It changes color, sees thousands of times more color than humans, can see a form of light that electrophysicists theorized only in the 90s, and at 20cm has the striking power of a rifle bullet. it also creates luminous cavitation pulses that it uses to stun and kill pretty much anything that irritates it. best of all, it uses &#039;siege defecation&#039; to basically s**t enemies out of their burrows and steal them.

[Moderator&#039;s note: edited the cuss word.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i proudly submit the mantis shrimp. It changes color, sees thousands of times more color than humans, can see a form of light that electrophysicists theorized only in the 90s, and at 20cm has the striking power of a rifle bullet. it also creates luminous cavitation pulses that it uses to stun and kill pretty much anything that irritates it. best of all, it uses &#8216;siege defecation&#8217; to basically s**t enemies out of their burrows and steal them.</p>
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		<title>By: latgrk</title>
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		<dc:creator>latgrk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 03:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Platypi and platypuses make sense as Latin and English pluralizations. However, attempting Greek does not.

Yes, platypus is a pseudo-Latin bastardization of the Greek words platys and pous. However, we do not use the word platyspous, we decided to force it to conform to Latin standards and get rid of the extra &#039;s&#039; and &#039;o&#039; to make it easier to use. As a &#039;Latin&#039; word, it is logical to follow Latin conjugation.

Obviously using standard English to pluralize has its benefits (particularly ease).

Trying to return it to Greek before fusing them again would not result in platypodes anyway... (there is an fault in the process of only pluralizing one word and dropping less letters)

As for anyone trying to argue the chronological superiority of the Greek language coming first, I am sure that the hypothetical Proto-Indo-European language has claim there, so perhaps we should persue ancient possibilities for our endings?

Where does Neatorama come up with the &#039;real Greek plural&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Platypi and platypuses make sense as Latin and English pluralizations. However, attempting Greek does not.</p>
<p>Yes, platypus is a pseudo-Latin bastardization of the Greek words platys and pous. However, we do not use the word platyspous, we decided to force it to conform to Latin standards and get rid of the extra &#8216;s&#8217; and &#8216;o&#8217; to make it easier to use. As a &#8216;Latin&#8217; word, it is logical to follow Latin conjugation.</p>
<p>Obviously using standard English to pluralize has its benefits (particularly ease).</p>
<p>Trying to return it to Greek before fusing them again would not result in platypodes anyway&#8230; (there is an fault in the process of only pluralizing one word and dropping less letters)</p>
<p>As for anyone trying to argue the chronological superiority of the Greek language coming first, I am sure that the hypothetical Proto-Indo-European language has claim there, so perhaps we should persue ancient possibilities for our endings?</p>
<p>Where does Neatorama come up with the &#8216;real Greek plural&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: esteban</title>
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		<dc:creator>esteban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 03:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ johnny effin n00b this isn&#039;t a forum for you to &quot;m2af&quot; not that I would know what that means...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ johnny effin n00b this isn&#8217;t a forum for you to &#8220;m2af&#8221; not that I would know what that means&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: gianluca</title>
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		<dc:creator>gianluca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 01:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being the -us suffix latin, and of the fist declination, shouldn&#039;t the plural being -- correctly -- platypi ? That&#039;s not greek.</description>
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		<title>By: Dick Kaplan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dick Kaplan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 23:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We saw a platypus exhibit in the Sidney Aquarium  in Darling Harbour. In the adjacent tanks were hundreds of kinds of fish (including large sharks) -- all coexisting peacefully. The platypus however, ate every other little critter (mostly small crustaceans) in his tank  NONSTOP! The sharks just swam around. He was a mean one, that platypus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We saw a platypus exhibit in the Sidney Aquarium  in Darling Harbour. In the adjacent tanks were hundreds of kinds of fish (including large sharks) &#8212; all coexisting peacefully. The platypus however, ate every other little critter (mostly small crustaceans) in his tank  NONSTOP! The sharks just swam around. He was a mean one, that platypus.</p>
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		<title>By: Marvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 22:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a huge fan of weird animals. Although, I suppose it&#039;s all in what you are familiar with... Maybe humans are the weirdest animals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a huge fan of weird animals. Although, I suppose it&#8217;s all in what you are familiar with&#8230; Maybe humans are the weirdest animals.</p>
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		<title>By: greek</title>
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		<dc:creator>greek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 22:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is that supposed to impress? as long as it doesnt have higher intellectual abilities like dolphins or apes, i dont really think this is special for anybody but scientist. its just a freak of nature .. big deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is that supposed to impress? as long as it doesnt have higher intellectual abilities like dolphins or apes, i dont really think this is special for anybody but scientist. its just a freak of nature .. big deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica Simpson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 21:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Platypus? I thought it was pronounced platymapus.</description>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James,

In a word, no. These venom proteins (peptides) are thought to have mostly evolved from genes of the host animal that have duplicated, become expressed only in the venomous glands, then diverged to become more toxic. I mention this in my article (Jen linked it above, or click on my name above this comment).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,</p>
<p>In a word, no. These venom proteins (peptides) are thought to have mostly evolved from genes of the host animal that have duplicated, become expressed only in the venomous glands, then diverged to become more toxic. I mention this in my article (Jen linked it above, or click on my name above this comment).</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 19:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t it seem likely that perhaps the platypus has some sort of key mutation which allows them to acquire genes from other creatures in their environment more easily?  

We&#039;ve always known about other, simpler organisms that can pass/acquire genetic material from other organisms (virii and bacteria, for example).... and the recent discoveries about how children acquire genetic material via cells passed through the mother in utero would seem to indicate that&#039;s it highly possible for complex organisms as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t it seem likely that perhaps the platypus has some sort of key mutation which allows them to acquire genes from other creatures in their environment more easily?  </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve always known about other, simpler organisms that can pass/acquire genetic material from other organisms (virii and bacteria, for example)&#8230;. and the recent discoveries about how children acquire genetic material via cells passed through the mother in utero would seem to indicate that&#8217;s it highly possible for complex organisms as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Welsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Welsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 19:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Paul, just like Chuck Norris. The platypus is the Chuck Norris of the Monotreme world, and that&#039;s why there is only one other species left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Paul, just like Chuck Norris. The platypus is the Chuck Norris of the Monotreme world, and that&#8217;s why there is only one other species left.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 19:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Platypus can kill you in 80 different ways with its venom, and a further 45 ways using only his thumbs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Platypus can kill you in 80 different ways with its venom, and a further 45 ways using only his thumbs.</p>
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		<title>By: alleycatsphinx</title>
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		<dc:creator>alleycatsphinx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 19:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be really curious about the meta-genetics of this species. Does it perhaps have an unusually high mutation rate (and how does the structure of it&#039;s genes effect this?)

I&#039;m sure there are more surprises within this animal, seeing so many on its surface.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be really curious about the meta-genetics of this species. Does it perhaps have an unusually high mutation rate (and how does the structure of it&#8217;s genes effect this?)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there are more surprises within this animal, seeing so many on its surface.</p>
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		<title>By: HoneyBadger</title>
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		<dc:creator>HoneyBadger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 18:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honey Badger is much more of a bad ass. Look him up on youtube.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honey Badger is much more of a bad ass. Look him up on youtube.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Welsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Welsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey all, 

Thanks for reading and commenting. 

@RobertE: I tried really hard to find a good place to link to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mj6TXGIT0A#t=0m31s but couldn&#039;t :(

@Grant I love your nitpicking, thanks! For more detail on the approach used to identify these genes, visit Grant&#039;s site: http://sciblogs.co.nz/code-for-life/2010/10/07/finding-platypus-venom/

Thanks all!

Jen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey all, </p>
<p>Thanks for reading and commenting. </p>
<p>@RobertE: I tried really hard to find a good place to link to this: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mj6TXGIT0A#t=0m31s" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mj6TXGIT0A#t=0m31s</a> but couldn&#8217;t <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/discoblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Grant I love your nitpicking, thanks! For more detail on the approach used to identify these genes, visit Grant&#8217;s site: <a href="http://sciblogs.co.nz/code-for-life/2010/10/07/finding-platypus-venom/" rel="nofollow">http://sciblogs.co.nz/code-for-life/2010/10/07/finding-platypus-venom/</a></p>
<p>Thanks all!</p>
<p>Jen</p>
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		<title>By: TechyDad</title>
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		<dc:creator>TechyDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Robert E,

Whenever I see a story about a platypus, I think of Phineas and Ferb.

80 different toxins in their venom? Curse you, Perry the Platypus!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Robert E,</p>
<p>Whenever I see a story about a platypus, I think of Phineas and Ferb.</p>
<p>80 different toxins in their venom? Curse you, Perry the Platypus!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 02:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more tidbit that I mentioned in my own article reviewing Warren’s paper (see link on my name): platypuses have no corpus callosum, although this is apparently also true of marsupials.

I wouldn&#039;t say that they have found 80 venoms — yet. The thing about their work is that rather than obtain supplies of the venom and try figure out the poisons in it, they built on the newly sequenced platypus genome sequence by screened for genes expressed in the venomous gland and compared them with known venom proteins (or peptides) from other species. These candidate venoms still need to be tested. What they have so far are ~80 &lt;i&gt;genes&lt;/i&gt; coding for things (closely) resembling venoms in other species. Nit-pickery :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more tidbit that I mentioned in my own article reviewing Warren’s paper (see link on my name): platypuses have no corpus callosum, although this is apparently also true of marsupials.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t say that they have found 80 venoms — yet. The thing about their work is that rather than obtain supplies of the venom and try figure out the poisons in it, they built on the newly sequenced platypus genome sequence by screened for genes expressed in the venomous gland and compared them with known venom proteins (or peptides) from other species. These candidate venoms still need to be tested. What they have so far are ~80 <i>genes</i> coding for things (closely) resembling venoms in other species. Nit-pickery <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/discoblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Brian Too</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I humbly submit the plural form of Platypudden.  It sounds delicious and will soon be on the menu at Krusty Burger!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I humbly submit the plural form of Platypudden.  It sounds delicious and will soon be on the menu at Krusty Burger!</p>
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		<title>By: Tomato Addict</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomato Addict</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Platypudii?

It&#039;s interesting that this venom has so many toxins, and I wonder if the platypus is immune to many of them. This might be the result of an evolutionary arms-race among male platypi to have more lethal venom, and be less susceptible to the venom of competing males.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Platypudii?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting that this venom has so many toxins, and I wonder if the platypus is immune to many of them. This might be the result of an evolutionary arms-race among male platypi to have more lethal venom, and be less susceptible to the venom of competing males.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert E</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/discoblog/2010/10/13/the-platypus-can-poison-you-80-different-ways/comment-page-1/#comment-49666</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Completely irrelevant to anything, but whenever I see a story on the platypus I always think of the opening disclaimer to the movie &quot;Dogma&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely irrelevant to anything, but whenever I see a story on the platypus I always think of the opening disclaimer to the movie &#8220;Dogma&#8221;</p>
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