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	<title>Comments on: Let Loose the Coyotes? Chicago Embraces Rat-Hunting Predators</title>
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		<title>By: plutosdad</title>
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		<dc:creator>plutosdad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 15:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow I was just thinking about this (I live in Chicago). I saw a hawk carrying a pigeon out my back door recently, and was wondering if we should import cats to eliminate the rats. 

I&#039;ve read Moscow is overrun with wild dogs, and they like having them because they keep the rats down. Which is weird because there are signs all over here saying to pick up after your dog because the feces attracts rats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow I was just thinking about this (I live in Chicago). I saw a hawk carrying a pigeon out my back door recently, and was wondering if we should import cats to eliminate the rats. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read Moscow is overrun with wild dogs, and they like having them because they keep the rats down. Which is weird because there are signs all over here saying to pick up after your dog because the feces attracts rats.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonh Constanteik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonh Constanteik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 01:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lionel may be a name in design trains for a long period.They&#039;ve a lot of several dimensions and styles for everyone. Along with the company dating again on the early 1900&#039;s, they may be nevertheless a widely used selection for a lot of. They&#039;ve had their share of problems, nevertheless they are still here and here to stay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lionel may be a name in design trains for a long period.They&#8217;ve a lot of several dimensions and styles for everyone. Along with the company dating again on the early 1900&#8242;s, they may be nevertheless a widely used selection for a lot of. They&#8217;ve had their share of problems, nevertheless they are still here and here to stay.</p>
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		<title>By: Mama coyote</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mama coyote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 13:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get so tired of people yelling &quot;rabies&quot; in the same breath as coyotes.  Please read this 2008 study on rabies.  http://www.coyoterescue.org/JAVMA-rabies.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get so tired of people yelling &#8220;rabies&#8221; in the same breath as coyotes.  Please read this 2008 study on rabies.  <a href="http://www.coyoterescue.org/JAVMA-rabies.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.coyoterescue.org/JAVMA-rabies.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: HP</title>
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		<dc:creator>HP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 04:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Late to the party.)

Just in the last few years, I&#039;ve seen plenty of coyotes (and signs of coyotes) in suburban Cincinnati and southwest Ohio valley. Unfortunately, most of the coyotes I&#039;ve seen have been reduced to bloody smears along the side of the Interstate, but I have seen a few actively hunting, especially after a snowfall at dusk.

Personally, I wouldn&#039;t mind seeing the reintroduction of the &quot;painter&quot; (i.e. &lt;i&gt;Puma concolor ssp.&lt;/i&gt;) that once ruled the Ohio Valley. The urban deer are out of control, and there&#039;s no way to reasonably cull deer that live in urban and suburban areas.

As a long-time cat owner and ailurophile, I must say that there are &lt;i&gt;plenty&lt;/i&gt; of reasons to keep your cats indoors at all times, and coyotes are way down the list. I&#039;m confident that the primary predator of outdoor domestic cats is still the deadly Five-Door Hatchback. Keeping cats indoors will automatically add five years to their life -- more, if you give them plenty of exercise and play time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Late to the party.)</p>
<p>Just in the last few years, I&#8217;ve seen plenty of coyotes (and signs of coyotes) in suburban Cincinnati and southwest Ohio valley. Unfortunately, most of the coyotes I&#8217;ve seen have been reduced to bloody smears along the side of the Interstate, but I have seen a few actively hunting, especially after a snowfall at dusk.</p>
<p>Personally, I wouldn&#8217;t mind seeing the reintroduction of the &#8220;painter&#8221; (i.e. <i>Puma concolor ssp.</i>) that once ruled the Ohio Valley. The urban deer are out of control, and there&#8217;s no way to reasonably cull deer that live in urban and suburban areas.</p>
<p>As a long-time cat owner and ailurophile, I must say that there are <i>plenty</i> of reasons to keep your cats indoors at all times, and coyotes are way down the list. I&#8217;m confident that the primary predator of outdoor domestic cats is still the deadly Five-Door Hatchback. Keeping cats indoors will automatically add five years to their life &#8212; more, if you give them plenty of exercise and play time.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonbon57</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonbon57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 20:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Introducing wildlife into urban areas?  Really?  Excuse me, weren&#039;t the animals here first?  Urban wildlife is essential to our eco-system.  If you don&#039;t want them around you control the feed source. Urban wildlife only thrive where there is a good food source.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Introducing wildlife into urban areas?  Really?  Excuse me, weren&#8217;t the animals here first?  Urban wildlife is essential to our eco-system.  If you don&#8217;t want them around you control the feed source. Urban wildlife only thrive where there is a good food source.</p>
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		<title>By: hahaha</title>
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		<dc:creator>hahaha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The legacy of daley ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The legacy of daley &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Toothen Klaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toothen Klaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 07:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not up the ante and bring in some wolves from Upper Michigan and Minnesota?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not up the ante and bring in some wolves from Upper Michigan and Minnesota?</p>
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		<title>By: Marion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 12:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 31 --- Keep the cats inside, I don&#039;t want your mangy feline crapping in my yard and yowling all night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 31 &#8212; Keep the cats inside, I don&#8217;t want your mangy feline crapping in my yard and yowling all night.</p>
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		<title>By: rjs</title>
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		<dc:creator>rjs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 11:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>someone’s going to learn some lessons about unintended consequences…they’re a real problem in NE ohio; killing a number of puppies &amp; cats; i had 6 of my cats taken by coyotes over the past 2 years…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>someone’s going to learn some lessons about unintended consequences…they’re a real problem in NE ohio; killing a number of puppies & cats; i had 6 of my cats taken by coyotes over the past 2 years…</p>
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		<title>By: Wile. E. Coyote</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wile. E. Coyote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 09:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a coyote, I&#039;m getting a kick out of these replies.  Seriously, we coyotes are native to north America, not an introduced species, and we take pretty good care of our ecosystems.  We hunt rats and mice, possum and raccoon, without mercy.  We also take out feral cats and rabbits, both species introduced to this country, both doing enormous damage if not controlled.  We do not eat the songbirds out of bushes and trees.  We will kill smaller dogs but as a service to all.  Their yipping is offensive.  As for humans, you neither taste nice, nor do we have the capacity for swallowing you whole, which is the whole joy of little rodents.  Hmm, crunchy.  You should watch out for your own dogs, half wolf, and evolved to roam in packs and take much larger prey than us coyotes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a coyote, I&#8217;m getting a kick out of these replies.  Seriously, we coyotes are native to north America, not an introduced species, and we take pretty good care of our ecosystems.  We hunt rats and mice, possum and raccoon, without mercy.  We also take out feral cats and rabbits, both species introduced to this country, both doing enormous damage if not controlled.  We do not eat the songbirds out of bushes and trees.  We will kill smaller dogs but as a service to all.  Their yipping is offensive.  As for humans, you neither taste nice, nor do we have the capacity for swallowing you whole, which is the whole joy of little rodents.  Hmm, crunchy.  You should watch out for your own dogs, half wolf, and evolved to roam in packs and take much larger prey than us coyotes.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 05:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live within sight of Los Angeles City Hall and occasionally see coyotes on my morning walks or at dusk.   My neighbor across the street just gave me a photo of one in the vacant lot next to my house.

While they do kill the occasional small dog (which we call &quot;coyote bait&quot;) or cat, they also do an excellent job of keeping the opossum population under control.   They were here first, and I am happy to share my neighborhood with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live within sight of Los Angeles City Hall and occasionally see coyotes on my morning walks or at dusk.   My neighbor across the street just gave me a photo of one in the vacant lot next to my house.</p>
<p>While they do kill the occasional small dog (which we call &#8220;coyote bait&#8221;) or cat, they also do an excellent job of keeping the opossum population under control.   They were here first, and I am happy to share my neighborhood with them.</p>
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		<title>By: A. Lurker</title>
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		<dc:creator>A. Lurker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 02:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Props to you in Chicago! Our neighborhood here in Denver has at least one coyote and we have lots of foxes; mice in the garage are a thing of the past and they&#039;re beautiful animals to live with. High order predators are a sign of a healthy ecosystem.

The Loop is a richer place for having invited the World back in. Keep it going. (Gosh, how I miss that town.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Props to you in Chicago! Our neighborhood here in Denver has at least one coyote and we have lots of foxes; mice in the garage are a thing of the past and they&#8217;re beautiful animals to live with. High order predators are a sign of a healthy ecosystem.</p>
<p>The Loop is a richer place for having invited the World back in. Keep it going. (Gosh, how I miss that town.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Welsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Welsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 15:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all, 

Glad to see we&#039;ve started a little discussion here. I want to thank #13 Johnathan for re-iterating some of the important points I made in the actual article. The funny part was that the animal control claimed that they were introduced on purpose, while that just isn&#039;t true!

The animals ARE a part of the Urban Coyote Ecology and Management project, as both Johnathan and I mentioned, and they were already in the cities and suburbs. By tracking them, we get a better idea of where they range, which would hopefully help us keep an eye out for areas where keeping a pet outside might not be a great idea. Each coyote has a specific territory, so it&#039;s easy to know where they are likely to be. 

Thanks for reading and commenting, all! 

Jen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all, </p>
<p>Glad to see we&#8217;ve started a little discussion here. I want to thank #13 Johnathan for re-iterating some of the important points I made in the actual article. The funny part was that the animal control claimed that they were introduced on purpose, while that just isn&#8217;t true!</p>
<p>The animals ARE a part of the Urban Coyote Ecology and Management project, as both Johnathan and I mentioned, and they were already in the cities and suburbs. By tracking them, we get a better idea of where they range, which would hopefully help us keep an eye out for areas where keeping a pet outside might not be a great idea. Each coyote has a specific territory, so it&#8217;s easy to know where they are likely to be. </p>
<p>Thanks for reading and commenting, all! </p>
<p>Jen</p>
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		<title>By: Hal P.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hal P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 11:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with #19.
The collars should have sound effects of the Road Runner blasting away from the Wiley one.
Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with #19.<br />
The collars should have sound effects of the Road Runner blasting away from the Wiley one.<br />
Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Timfromtexas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timfromtexas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 09:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, they are the future human population control experiment. With humans multiplying like rabbits and rodents and the country turning into a police state, they will be a great weapon in crowd and population control</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, they are the future human population control experiment. With humans multiplying like rabbits and rodents and the country turning into a police state, they will be a great weapon in crowd and population control</p>
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		<title>By: Pyre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pyre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 08:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget while you&#039;re wondering how much of a danger coyotes are that pet and stray dogs tend to injure and kill more people per year, and these are the kind that we keep in the house.

25 fatal dog attacks so far in 2010.  Good thing we don&#039;t keep coyotes in our houses.

#16.  2 people in the history of record keeping as a fatal attack from a coyote.  Perhaps we should re-evaluate what kind of pets we keep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget while you&#8217;re wondering how much of a danger coyotes are that pet and stray dogs tend to injure and kill more people per year, and these are the kind that we keep in the house.</p>
<p>25 fatal dog attacks so far in 2010.  Good thing we don&#8217;t keep coyotes in our houses.</p>
<p>#16.  2 people in the history of record keeping as a fatal attack from a coyote.  Perhaps we should re-evaluate what kind of pets we keep.</p>
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		<title>By: davefromoregon</title>
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		<dc:creator>davefromoregon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 01:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Out here, we have lots of coyotes in the city, no rats, and lots of lost cat signs. As someone mentioned, they have adapted to people over the years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out here, we have lots of coyotes in the city, no rats, and lots of lost cat signs. As someone mentioned, they have adapted to people over the years.</p>
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		<title>By: Willie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Willie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 23:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And just how many have been dispatched to the neighborhood where that rat Rahm Emmanuel now resides?

And, they&#039;ll need a few dozen more when Axelrod gets back to Chitown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And just how many have been dispatched to the neighborhood where that rat Rahm Emmanuel now resides?</p>
<p>And, they&#8217;ll need a few dozen more when Axelrod gets back to Chitown.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 18:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why they are doing this intro and other wildlife intro&#039;s is so we can eliminate hunting then eliminate gun use. Why would you need a gun if the animals are keeping themselves under control-not over populating per say.
the us goverment thinks they have the &quot;answer&quot; to controling animals, diseases, people. But nature always is smarter and unpredictable. Here in Colorado, western slope,  a friend witnessed the divsion of wildlife killing hundreds of Elk because one elk in the herd had wastings (spelling?) disease. Now why would you kill all animals in the herd when some probably would not get the disease therefore the good  genes wouldn&#039;t be passed on to better the Elk populations. Humans think they are &quot;God all Mighty!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why they are doing this intro and other wildlife intro&#8217;s is so we can eliminate hunting then eliminate gun use. Why would you need a gun if the animals are keeping themselves under control-not over populating per say.<br />
the us goverment thinks they have the &#8220;answer&#8221; to controling animals, diseases, people. But nature always is smarter and unpredictable. Here in Colorado, western slope,  a friend witnessed the divsion of wildlife killing hundreds of Elk because one elk in the herd had wastings (spelling?) disease. Now why would you kill all animals in the herd when some probably would not get the disease therefore the good  genes wouldn&#8217;t be passed on to better the Elk populations. Humans think they are &#8220;God all Mighty!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Different Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Different Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 18:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you did not kill the cats you would not have any problems with mice. The problem is that the Chicago people are stupid and cruel. Cats make mice go away and add beauty to any city.&quot;

Are you kidding? You must of not have seen many feral cats. &quot;Add beauty to any city&quot; lol OK cat lady.

How are Chicago people stupid and cruel for having Coyotes? How are these cats any different? How are Coyotes any more dangerous than the coon and possums that we already have in the area? I&#039;ve seen rabid racoons infect many dogs in my area of Chicago to where they had to be put down.... how are Coyotes any worse than that?

I think these Coyotes are fine, i&#039;ve seen them around my neighborhood and nobody has had any problems with them that we havn&#039;t had already with the other animals in the area. If you can&#039;t watch your pets or let cats roam  the neighborhood its your own fault for not paying attention if they attack it as there is already PLENTY of danger before Coyotes returned to this area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you did not kill the cats you would not have any problems with mice. The problem is that the Chicago people are stupid and cruel. Cats make mice go away and add beauty to any city.&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you kidding? You must of not have seen many feral cats. &#8220;Add beauty to any city&#8221; lol OK cat lady.</p>
<p>How are Chicago people stupid and cruel for having Coyotes? How are these cats any different? How are Coyotes any more dangerous than the coon and possums that we already have in the area? I&#8217;ve seen rabid racoons infect many dogs in my area of Chicago to where they had to be put down&#8230;. how are Coyotes any worse than that?</p>
<p>I think these Coyotes are fine, i&#8217;ve seen them around my neighborhood and nobody has had any problems with them that we havn&#8217;t had already with the other animals in the area. If you can&#8217;t watch your pets or let cats roam  the neighborhood its your own fault for not paying attention if they attack it as there is already PLENTY of danger before Coyotes returned to this area.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 17:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please people, think of the roadrunners.</description>
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		<title>By: Burnsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Burnsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 17:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry, Chicago is prepared for this. They&#039;ve lined up a fabulous type of gorilla that thrives on coyote meat. And when wintertime rolls around, the gorillas simply freeze to death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry, Chicago is prepared for this. They&#8217;ve lined up a fabulous type of gorilla that thrives on coyote meat. And when wintertime rolls around, the gorillas simply freeze to death.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 17:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to Live in Chicago near the Argyle L Stop until the summer of &#039;04 and my apartment  backed onto a graveyeardwhere I observed/heard a fairly large and active pack of coyotes ( I know they typically aren&#039;t &quot;pack&quot; animals the way wolves are, but there were somewhere between 6 and a dozen visible together and apparently cooperating from time to time)  between those guys and the falcons nesting in the eaves of the old Uptown theatre down the street, I never saw a single rat in a neighborhood overflowing with restaurants and the kinds of rat-attractive trash they tend to make</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to Live in Chicago near the Argyle L Stop until the summer of &#8217;04 and my apartment  backed onto a graveyeardwhere I observed/heard a fairly large and active pack of coyotes ( I know they typically aren&#8217;t &#8220;pack&#8221; animals the way wolves are, but there were somewhere between 6 and a dozen visible together and apparently cooperating from time to time)  between those guys and the falcons nesting in the eaves of the old Uptown theatre down the street, I never saw a single rat in a neighborhood overflowing with restaurants and the kinds of rat-attractive trash they tend to make</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 17:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recommend the idiot releasing these coyotes into populated areas and saying &quot;He’s not going to pick up your children&quot; go read this website: http://varmintal.com/attac.htm

It documents numerous attacks on children and even deaths from coyotes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recommend the idiot releasing these coyotes into populated areas and saying &#8220;He’s not going to pick up your children&#8221; go read this website: <a href="http://varmintal.com/attac.htm" rel="nofollow">http://varmintal.com/attac.htm</a></p>
<p>It documents numerous attacks on children and even deaths from coyotes.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce in Denver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce in Denver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#14 Jonathon.

Thanks for providing that good information about coyotes. There have been enough Wolf and Mountain Lion introduction programs in several western states, that it&#039;s easy for people to just assume, coyote introduction is going on in the Chicago area also. You&#039;re right about the deer too. Hell, in Iowa, the Mountain Lions introduced into the state won&#039;t even hunt deer, they go for the rural farmers pet dogs and cats instead! So more deer-auto accidents every year, AND if you&#039;re a farmer, you have to keep a pack of hounds instead of just one or two dogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#14 Jonathon.</p>
<p>Thanks for providing that good information about coyotes. There have been enough Wolf and Mountain Lion introduction programs in several western states, that it&#8217;s easy for people to just assume, coyote introduction is going on in the Chicago area also. You&#8217;re right about the deer too. Hell, in Iowa, the Mountain Lions introduced into the state won&#8217;t even hunt deer, they go for the rural farmers pet dogs and cats instead! So more deer-auto accidents every year, AND if you&#8217;re a farmer, you have to keep a pack of hounds instead of just one or two dogs.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce in Denver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce in Denver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#7

I grew up on a farm in western Iowa, and farmers who kept several cats around the farm, always had much less of a rodent problem getting into their granaries.  So cats who are not pampered house pets will catch plenty of rats and mice. I&#039;ve observed it for myself. I have a farm cat from Iowa at my home in east Denver Colorado in a dense urban neighborhood since this last summer. He&#039;s brought in more dead mice from outside than birds. (He&#039;s also killed a few juvenile rabbits too)  So even though I like the idea of GPS tagging coyote&#039;s so their urban setting behavior can be tracked and studied closer, I do not buy into the nonsense that increasing coyote populations is necessary to reduce the rodent population in urban areas. Coyote&#039;s will go for the easier prey first, abandoned house cats and small dogs every time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#7</p>
<p>I grew up on a farm in western Iowa, and farmers who kept several cats around the farm, always had much less of a rodent problem getting into their granaries.  So cats who are not pampered house pets will catch plenty of rats and mice. I&#8217;ve observed it for myself. I have a farm cat from Iowa at my home in east Denver Colorado in a dense urban neighborhood since this last summer. He&#8217;s brought in more dead mice from outside than birds. (He&#8217;s also killed a few juvenile rabbits too)  So even though I like the idea of GPS tagging coyote&#8217;s so their urban setting behavior can be tracked and studied closer, I do not buy into the nonsense that increasing coyote populations is necessary to reduce the rodent population in urban areas. Coyote&#8217;s will go for the easier prey first, abandoned house cats and small dogs every time.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I attended a presentation on urban coyotes given by Chris Anchor, Wildlife Biologist, Forest Preserve District of Cook County.  Chris has worked with the coyote population in Cook County for many years.  

 I would like to contribute a few items for consideration.  Several posters have made statements that are misleading or downright wrong. I would encourage anyone who is interested in this topic to visit the website at the bottom of this message.

1.  The idea that coyotes were INTRODUCED to the Chicago Metropolitan Area to control the rodent/mice/deer population...is downright silly.  There is no need to INTRODUCE these animals--they subside in Chicago, have subsided in Chicago for many years,  and will continue to be part of the urban fabric into the forseeable future.  They do not need us to introduce them to Urban environments; they choose--and have the skills--to thrive here.  Anyone who has an opportunity to look at maps of radio-collared coyotes (see link below) will be stunned by the number of coyotes in the CMA and their habitat.  (Chicago residents:  There is probably a coyote on your property as you read this message. If coyotes can survive around the drainage basin at the Schaumberg IKEA, they can probably make it in your neighborhood.)

2.  That said, the ubiquity of the coyote population in the CMA should demonstrate that coyotes and humans (and their pets) live side-by-side comfortably.  The idea that coyotes will eat humans is bilgewater.  On the contrary, 99% of coyotes are afraid of humans; it&#039;s the 1% that is intentionally fed by the local ignoramous that ends up biting said ignoramus.  If you do not leave food outside and shield your compost pile you (and your pet/small child) will probably be fine.  You are more likely to be bit by a stray dog or cat than by a coyote.

3.  Coyote do not control the deer population--they cannot take down deer.  While they do attack fawns (and slow down the deer population a bit), they are not the wolves you&#039;ve seen on the Discovery Channel.  In contrast, it is true that coyotes have dramatically altered the range and number of red fox living in the Chicago area.  For further reading, please see:
http://urbancoyoteresearch.com/index.htm   or http://urbancoyoteresearch.com/UrbanCoyoteManagementPDF.pdf  Happy reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I attended a presentation on urban coyotes given by Chris Anchor, Wildlife Biologist, Forest Preserve District of Cook County.  Chris has worked with the coyote population in Cook County for many years.  </p>
<p> I would like to contribute a few items for consideration.  Several posters have made statements that are misleading or downright wrong. I would encourage anyone who is interested in this topic to visit the website at the bottom of this message.</p>
<p>1.  The idea that coyotes were INTRODUCED to the Chicago Metropolitan Area to control the rodent/mice/deer population&#8230;is downright silly.  There is no need to INTRODUCE these animals&#8211;they subside in Chicago, have subsided in Chicago for many years,  and will continue to be part of the urban fabric into the forseeable future.  They do not need us to introduce them to Urban environments; they choose&#8211;and have the skills&#8211;to thrive here.  Anyone who has an opportunity to look at maps of radio-collared coyotes (see link below) will be stunned by the number of coyotes in the CMA and their habitat.  (Chicago residents:  There is probably a coyote on your property as you read this message. If coyotes can survive around the drainage basin at the Schaumberg IKEA, they can probably make it in your neighborhood.)</p>
<p>2.  That said, the ubiquity of the coyote population in the CMA should demonstrate that coyotes and humans (and their pets) live side-by-side comfortably.  The idea that coyotes will eat humans is bilgewater.  On the contrary, 99% of coyotes are afraid of humans; it&#8217;s the 1% that is intentionally fed by the local ignoramous that ends up biting said ignoramus.  If you do not leave food outside and shield your compost pile you (and your pet/small child) will probably be fine.  You are more likely to be bit by a stray dog or cat than by a coyote.</p>
<p>3.  Coyote do not control the deer population&#8211;they cannot take down deer.  While they do attack fawns (and slow down the deer population a bit), they are not the wolves you&#8217;ve seen on the Discovery Channel.  In contrast, it is true that coyotes have dramatically altered the range and number of red fox living in the Chicago area.  For further reading, please see:<br />
<a href="http://urbancoyoteresearch.com/index.htm" rel="nofollow">http://urbancoyoteresearch.com/index.htm</a>   or <a href="http://urbancoyoteresearch.com/UrbanCoyoteManagementPDF.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://urbancoyoteresearch.com/UrbanCoyoteManagementPDF.pdf</a>  Happy reading.</p>
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		<title>By: mari</title>
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		<dc:creator>mari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have a ready opinion/answer to this coyote introduction in cities  per se although it appears they are already there, albeit on the outskirts.

However, coyotes are vectors for giardia (a parasite passed through fecal contamination of water) in the Western portion of our country.  A friend in Montana caught it twice  - every camper there knows to boil stream water etc.

Now, on the East Coast urban foxes carry giardia according to my vet who said he sees 6-7 new cases of giardia in dogs in his practice per week.  Why do I bother to mention this???  Last winter I came down with giardia from unknown sources.  I had to research the symptoms on the internet, go to my GI doc, ask for a test (he thought I was nuts until the test results came back positive).

Just one more possible public health problem from the introduction of coyotes, although rats are probably (ugh) a bigger problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have a ready opinion/answer to this coyote introduction in cities  per se although it appears they are already there, albeit on the outskirts.</p>
<p>However, coyotes are vectors for giardia (a parasite passed through fecal contamination of water) in the Western portion of our country.  A friend in Montana caught it twice  &#8211; every camper there knows to boil stream water etc.</p>
<p>Now, on the East Coast urban foxes carry giardia according to my vet who said he sees 6-7 new cases of giardia in dogs in his practice per week.  Why do I bother to mention this???  Last winter I came down with giardia from unknown sources.  I had to research the symptoms on the internet, go to my GI doc, ask for a test (he thought I was nuts until the test results came back positive).</p>
<p>Just one more possible public health problem from the introduction of coyotes, although rats are probably (ugh) a bigger problem.</p>
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		<title>By: sharon, israel</title>
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		<dc:creator>sharon, israel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you did not kill the cats you would not have any problems with mice. The problem is  that the Chicago people are stupid and cruel. Cats make mice go away and add beauty to any city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you did not kill the cats you would not have any problems with mice. The problem is  that the Chicago people are stupid and cruel. Cats make mice go away and add beauty to any city.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Trowbridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Trowbridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 05:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pyre&#039;s (#7) point about bird populations is worth emphasizing. A 1999 study in San Diego found a correlation (positive) between coyote and bird populations, due to the reduction of the feral cat population.

&quot;The study also found that in small canyons where the coyote was absent, there was an increase in mid-sized predators such as cats, and a drastic decline in diversity or elimination of scrub-breeding birds. But in the larger canyons where coyotes were still present, the
scrub-breeding birds were also present.&quot;

Also, Google &quot;mesopredator&quot; and &quot;apex predator&quot; for more related to this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pyre&#8217;s (#7) point about bird populations is worth emphasizing. A 1999 study in San Diego found a correlation (positive) between coyote and bird populations, due to the reduction of the feral cat population.</p>
<p>&#8220;The study also found that in small canyons where the coyote was absent, there was an increase in mid-sized predators such as cats, and a drastic decline in diversity or elimination of scrub-breeding birds. But in the larger canyons where coyotes were still present, the<br />
scrub-breeding birds were also present.&#8221;</p>
<p>Also, Google &#8220;mesopredator&#8221; and &#8220;apex predator&#8221; for more related to this.</p>
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