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	<title>Comments on: NCBI ROFL: And the grossest study award goes to&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: showmethedata</title>
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		<dc:creator>showmethedata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 01:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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Can you provide a reference for the study you mention that shows that &quot;statistically speaking condoms are only fractionally more effective than withdrawal for as a contraceptive method&quot;?

PS: I use condoms regularly, think they are important, yet still find this paper funny in a gross sort of way.  I guess that makes me a &quot;knee-squeezing twit&quot;, although I&#039;m not exactly sure how it affects my ability to use a condom properly.</description>
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Can you provide a reference for the study you mention that shows that &#8220;statistically speaking condoms are only fractionally more effective than withdrawal for as a contraceptive method&#8221;?</p>
<p>PS: I use condoms regularly, think they are important, yet still find this paper funny in a gross sort of way.  I guess that makes me a &#8220;knee-squeezing twit&#8221;, although I&#8217;m not exactly sure how it affects my ability to use a condom properly.</p>
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		<title>By: dr. frueisata</title>
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		<dc:creator>dr. frueisata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How wrong you are, Sir. Condoms ARE by far the most gross thing ever. They are 27.2% grosser than raw sewage when taken from reproductive-health centers. I would provide you with the citation but it would be easier to direct you to look in your pantaloons for an example of inflated and misrepresented statistics.

Good Day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How wrong you are, Sir. Condoms ARE by far the most gross thing ever. They are 27.2% grosser than raw sewage when taken from reproductive-health centers. I would provide you with the citation but it would be easier to direct you to look in your pantaloons for an example of inflated and misrepresented statistics.</p>
<p>Good Day!</p>
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		<title>By: figleaf</title>
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		<dc:creator>figleaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want to go all judgmental here but this is actually pretty critical public-health information.  I mean, yeah, it sounds a little squicky but if you think about it it&#039;s not even as gross as stuff the average public sanitation worker, sewage-treatment plant operator, or even (yikes!) some restaurant inspectors (yikes!!) have to put up with every day.

But consider for a moment that on the one hand condoms are the primary contraception method for first-time and short-term relationships.  Then reflect on recent findings that statistically speaking condoms are only fractionally more effective than withdrawal for  as a contraceptive method.  Now look at those reliability statistics and reflect that condoms are the only recommended means of protection from sexually transmitted disease.

Consider finally that the same knee-squeezing twits who snark about condom-use research are often at greatest risk of using condoms incorrectly when, or perhaps I should say if, they ever find themselves in a situation where condoms are most frequently used.  And ask yourself if this line of research, however &quot;gross,&quot; it&#039;s really all that floor-rollingly funny.

Knowing that there&#039;s a reported 7.9% rate of condoms breaking or slipping off, and that (by rough inference) in half the cases where failure or slippage occurs there&#039;s measurable body fluid intermixture is worth a little mockery.

Anyway, despite my crabby response to your editorial stance I&#039;m actually glad to have learned about this study through Discoblog.  I hope it encourages further research.  It&#039;s kind of an important subject. So thanks.

figleaf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want to go all judgmental here but this is actually pretty critical public-health information.  I mean, yeah, it sounds a little squicky but if you think about it it&#8217;s not even as gross as stuff the average public sanitation worker, sewage-treatment plant operator, or even (yikes!) some restaurant inspectors (yikes!!) have to put up with every day.</p>
<p>But consider for a moment that on the one hand condoms are the primary contraception method for first-time and short-term relationships.  Then reflect on recent findings that statistically speaking condoms are only fractionally more effective than withdrawal for  as a contraceptive method.  Now look at those reliability statistics and reflect that condoms are the only recommended means of protection from sexually transmitted disease.</p>
<p>Consider finally that the same knee-squeezing twits who snark about condom-use research are often at greatest risk of using condoms incorrectly when, or perhaps I should say if, they ever find themselves in a situation where condoms are most frequently used.  And ask yourself if this line of research, however &#8220;gross,&#8221; it&#8217;s really all that floor-rollingly funny.</p>
<p>Knowing that there&#8217;s a reported 7.9% rate of condoms breaking or slipping off, and that (by rough inference) in half the cases where failure or slippage occurs there&#8217;s measurable body fluid intermixture is worth a little mockery.</p>
<p>Anyway, despite my crabby response to your editorial stance I&#8217;m actually glad to have learned about this study through Discoblog.  I hope it encourages further research.  It&#8217;s kind of an important subject. So thanks.</p>
<p>figleaf</p>
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