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	<title>Comments on: Selection at work?</title>
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		<title>By: Dan Dare</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2006/02/selection-at-work/#comment-362</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Dare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 02:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right Greg, that could happen. But I was thinking that anything like that could be defeated by further advances in technology.
The reason we want contraception today is because our sex drive is stronger than our nurturing instinct. At least for many if not most people.
What if it was the other way around. If no-one cared much about sex, they just wanted kids. Then they wouldn&#039;t use contraceptives even if they were available. Improving the technology probably wouldn&#039;t even be attempted.
So a mutation that had that effect would be unstoppable even in an age of available contraception.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right Greg, that could happen. But I was thinking that anything like that could be defeated by further advances in technology.<br />
The reason we want contraception today is because our sex drive is stronger than our nurturing instinct. At least for many if not most people.<br />
What if it was the other way around. If no-one cared much about sex, they just wanted kids. Then they wouldn&#8217;t use contraceptives even if they were available. Improving the technology probably wouldn&#8217;t even be attempted.<br />
So a mutation that had that effect would be unstoppable even in an age of available contraception.</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2006/02/selection-at-work/#comment-361</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 01:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re Dan&#039;s comments and contra Boronx:
Perhaps seminal fluid that degrades latex?
Uterine walls unaffected by estrogen?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Dan&#8217;s comments and contra Boronx:<br />
Perhaps seminal fluid that degrades latex?<br />
Uterine walls unaffected by estrogen?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Dare</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2006/02/selection-at-work/#comment-360</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Dare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 19:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Pithlord, didn&#039;t see your comment.
Good question.
Maybe by then we will have space colonization or something.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Pithlord, didn&#8217;t see your comment.<br />
Good question.<br />
Maybe by then we will have space colonization or something.</p>
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		<title>By: razib</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2006/02/selection-at-work/#comment-359</link>
		<dc:creator>razib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>boronx, probably.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>boronx, probably.</p>
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		<title>By: Boronx</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2006/02/selection-at-work/#comment-358</link>
		<dc:creator>Boronx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 00:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My firm belief is that contraception has caused the stupid, lazy, forgetful or superstitious to increase in fitness relative to everyone else
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My firm belief is that contraception has caused the stupid, lazy, forgetful or superstitious to increase in fitness relative to everyone else</p>
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		<title>By: Pithlord</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2006/02/selection-at-work/#comment-357</link>
		<dc:creator>Pithlord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,
Does that mean Malthus will end up being right after all?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,<br />
Does that mean Malthus will end up being right after all?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Dare</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2006/02/selection-at-work/#comment-356</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Dare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 00:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I have always thought so too.
If you introduce a new challenge like chemical contraception, initially it devastates the population. But some individuals are resistant to it. Perhaps because of religious or philosophical reasons, perhaps because they just love kids and long for a big family. Anyway, even though the contraceptives are there, they chose not to use them.
End result: If any of that choice is heritable then these trends will be accentuated in the next generation. In time resistance of one form or another to contraception will emerge.
There is no difference here between contraception and the effects of a new insecticide or antibiotic. In time you will get resistance.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I have always thought so too.<br />
If you introduce a new challenge like chemical contraception, initially it devastates the population. But some individuals are resistant to it. Perhaps because of religious or philosophical reasons, perhaps because they just love kids and long for a big family. Anyway, even though the contraceptives are there, they chose not to use them.<br />
End result: If any of that choice is heritable then these trends will be accentuated in the next generation. In time resistance of one form or another to contraception will emerge.<br />
There is no difference here between contraception and the effects of a new insecticide or antibiotic. In time you will get resistance.</p>
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