http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2006/04/religious-intolerance-in-the-usa/ Wed, 22 May 2013 18:12:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2006/04/religious-intolerance-in-the-usa/#comment-1157 razib Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:47:35 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2006/04/21/religious-intolerance-in-the-usa/#comment-1157 <i>why did we (hindus and buddhists) even come up? Islam has far more in common with christianity than it does with my religion...</i> if you are thinking in the sense of phenetics where you do a "character by character" comparison, or in a cladist sense in regards to "shared derived traits," sure. but most people don't know much about islam (especially the intolerant types) and so put it in the same box as the "idolaters." the people who can't distinguish between muslims and hindus probably don't consider catholics christian. why did we (hindus and buddhists) even come up? Islam has far more in common with christianity than it does with my religion…
if you are thinking in the sense of phenetics where you do a “character by character” comparison, or in a cladist sense in regards to “shared derived traits,” sure. but most people don’t know much about islam (especially the intolerant types) and so put it in the same box as the “idolaters.” the people who can’t distinguish between muslims and hindus probably don’t consider catholics christian.

]]> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2006/04/religious-intolerance-in-the-usa/#comment-1156 IndianCowboy Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:25:39 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2006/04/21/religious-intolerance-in-the-usa/#comment-1156 why did we (hindus and buddhists) even come up? Islam has far more in common with christianity than it does with my religion... why did we (hindus and buddhists) even come up? Islam has far more in common with christianity than it does with my religion…

]]> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2006/04/religious-intolerance-in-the-usa/#comment-1155 Jason Malloy Sat, 22 Apr 2006 04:25:05 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2006/04/21/religious-intolerance-in-the-usa/#comment-1155 Is this data from the GSS? I'd like to know the atheist %. Is this data from the GSS? I’d like to know the atheist %.

]]> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2006/04/religious-intolerance-in-the-usa/#comment-1154 SkookumPlanet Sat, 22 Apr 2006 04:04:56 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2006/04/21/religious-intolerance-in-the-usa/#comment-1154 One of my earliest political lessons from my dad. "When you ask people if they favor freedom of speech, 95% say yes. If you ask them if communists or Nazis should be allowed to speak publically in their community, about the same number say no." While I agree with the overall point, I also agree with the last sentence. When the NSF does its annual science literacy polling, 20% is roughly the number who think the sun revolves around the earth. One of my earliest political lessons from my dad. “When you ask people if they favor freedom of speech, 95% say yes. If you ask them if communists or Nazis should be allowed to speak publically in their community, about the same number say no.”
While I agree with the overall point, I also agree with the last sentence. When the NSF does its annual science literacy polling, 20% is roughly the number who think the sun revolves around the earth.

]]> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2006/04/religious-intolerance-in-the-usa/#comment-1153 razib Sat, 22 Apr 2006 01:06:44 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2006/04/21/religious-intolerance-in-the-usa/#comment-1153 joe, they didn't ask the question because the book explores <i>inter</i>relgious dynamics. i'm sure the % would be even higher. (note, if you asked people if they supported religious freedom they'd probably be 95% in favor, this is a case where this 25% is just dumber than normal and hyper-unintegrated in the principles they espouse) joe, they didn’t ask the question because the book explores interrelgious dynamics. i’m sure the % would be even higher.
(note, if you asked people if they supported religious freedom they’d probably be 95% in favor, this is a case where this 25% is just dumber than normal and hyper-unintegrated in the principles they espouse)

]]> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2006/04/religious-intolerance-in-the-usa/#comment-1152 Dan Dare Sat, 22 Apr 2006 00:08:58 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2006/04/21/religious-intolerance-in-the-usa/#comment-1152 What about Shinto? Surely that wouldn't offend anyone. <a href="http://asia.elliottback.com/archives/2006/04/12/japans-celebration-of-the-penis/" rel="nofollow">The Kanamara Festival</a> is world-famous. What about Shinto?
Surely that wouldn’t offend anyone.
The Kanamara Festival is world-famous.

]]> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2006/04/religious-intolerance-in-the-usa/#comment-1151 Joe Shelby Fri, 21 Apr 2006 23:22:33 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2006/04/21/religious-intolerance-in-the-usa/#comment-1151 actually, i'm surprised they didn't try to restrict athiests from holding meetings :) actually, i’m surprised they didn’t try to restrict athiests from holding meetings

]]> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2006/04/religious-intolerance-in-the-usa/#comment-1150 razib Fri, 21 Apr 2006 22:16:27 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2006/04/21/religious-intolerance-in-the-usa/#comment-1150 <i>savage apes.</i> please don't insult apes by analogy :) savage apes.
please don’t insult apes by analogy

]]> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2006/04/religious-intolerance-in-the-usa/#comment-1149 Matt McIntosh Fri, 21 Apr 2006 22:07:41 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2006/04/21/religious-intolerance-in-the-usa/#comment-1149 "The fact is that the average man's love of liberty is nine-tenths imaginary, exactly like his love of sense, justice and truth. He is not actually happy when free; he is uncomfortable, a bit alarmed, and intolerably lonely." -- H.L. Mencken Okay, so I'm not quite <i>that</i> pessimistic. But I agree with <a href="http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Libertarian/My_Posts/Reqmts_for_Anarcho_C.html" rel="nofollow">DDF</a> that "people in general are rationally conservative ... they trust the institutions they are familiar with to function the way those institutions can be seen functioning." Without salient focal points (e.g. the first amendment) to act as guideposts, people tend to regress toward the default position of savage apes. “The fact is that the average man’s love of liberty is nine-tenths imaginary, exactly like his love of sense, justice and truth. He is not actually happy when free; he is uncomfortable, a bit alarmed, and intolerably lonely.”
– H.L. Mencken
Okay, so I’m not quite that pessimistic. But I agree with DDF that “people in general are rationally conservative … they trust the institutions they are familiar with to function the way those institutions can be seen functioning.” Without salient focal points (e.g. the first amendment) to act as guideposts, people tend to regress toward the default position of savage apes.

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