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		<title>By: Razib Khan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/07/reader-survey-results-politics/#comment-23558</link>
		<dc:creator>Razib Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 17:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no special package in R. like this:

with(allCount,
symbols(SocialNum,EconNum,circles=CombCount,inches=1/5,bg=&quot;blue&quot;,xlab=&quot;Social Liberalism&quot;,ylab=&quot;Economic Liberalism&quot;, main=TheAnswer)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no special package in R. like this:</p>
<p>with(allCount,<br />
symbols(SocialNum,EconNum,circles=CombCount,inches=1/5,bg=&#8221;blue&#8221;,xlab=&#8221;Social Liberalism&#8221;,ylab=&#8221;Economic Liberalism&#8221;, main=TheAnswer)<br />
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/07/reader-survey-results-politics/#comment-23557</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 15:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Short question regarding the graphs - what application were these done in? R? With the standard package?

Very nice job on them, by the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Short question regarding the graphs &#8211; what application were these done in? R? With the standard package?</p>
<p>Very nice job on them, by the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Razib Khan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/07/reader-survey-results-politics/#comment-23556</link>
		<dc:creator>Razib Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 17:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fwiw, i can&#039;t track IPs for the polls since it is offsite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fwiw, i can&#8217;t track IPs for the polls since it is offsite.</p>
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		<title>By: gfygf</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/07/reader-survey-results-politics/#comment-23555</link>
		<dc:creator>gfygf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 11:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never willing to forgo a good session of ridicule and shunning, Miko got me to bother to turn on my computer in order to comment here (comments sent from my phone never appear, dunno why,  maybe the shunning began earlier than expected?).

First a confession, at Razib&#039;s invitation to do so (I seem to recollect such an invitation) I declined to answer all of the questions because I suspect that he has the technical ability to identify me by my IP address and some of the questions request that I expose more personal information than I&#039;m willing to provide at the moment. My present policy preferences however I don&#039;t consider to be too personal and they are pretty proudly populist by the definition provided above. Within the current american spectrum of stated preferences and beliefs I would likely be considered somewhat socially conservative (I think there are 1950s-esque beliefs about gender, race, sexual orientation, civil society and the like that are unreasonably dismissed) as well as fiscally liberal (I would like to see single-payer healthcare the law of the land and guaranteed food and housing available to everyone on more than a de facto basis [unlike section 8, footstamps and the like] ).

I would imagine that I&#039;m also an outlier in being a long-time reader who lacks a standard-issue college degree. I do however have an advanced degree of a different sort that is (almost always) socially and (reasonably often) academically considered more or less the equivalent of a doctorate so my response in Razib&#039;s polls over the years have likely jumped between the two poles of &quot;some college&quot; and &quot;post-graduate degree&quot;. Unfortunately in any reasonably short poll it&#039;s somewhat difficult to call out all of the fine nuances that would appear were there separate questions for the religion of most of your grandparents vs. your religion (Jewish/Agnostic) or personal social preferences vs. what you believe would be most beneficial for most people (Liberal/Conservative).

Oh, and I&#039;m likely within a rather small minority of commenters here who has taken calculus courses despite not being a college grad. I wish I could say I was a virgin too but, alas, the sirens hath overcome me with their feminine wiles and I must join the damned but happy who have known the sin of the serpent&#039;s flesh.

Anyhow, I hope this thread isn&#039;t sufficiently dry so as to preclude the promised ridicule and shunning :-) Bring it on you Libertarian retards and Liberal ostriches! I&#039;m kidding, I love ya all. Let a thousand flowers bloom and assume the &quot;airplane&quot; position (Maoist references, for the unfamiliar).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never willing to forgo a good session of ridicule and shunning, Miko got me to bother to turn on my computer in order to comment here (comments sent from my phone never appear, dunno why,  maybe the shunning began earlier than expected?).</p>
<p>First a confession, at Razib&#8217;s invitation to do so (I seem to recollect such an invitation) I declined to answer all of the questions because I suspect that he has the technical ability to identify me by my IP address and some of the questions request that I expose more personal information than I&#8217;m willing to provide at the moment. My present policy preferences however I don&#8217;t consider to be too personal and they are pretty proudly populist by the definition provided above. Within the current american spectrum of stated preferences and beliefs I would likely be considered somewhat socially conservative (I think there are 1950s-esque beliefs about gender, race, sexual orientation, civil society and the like that are unreasonably dismissed) as well as fiscally liberal (I would like to see single-payer healthcare the law of the land and guaranteed food and housing available to everyone on more than a de facto basis [unlike section 8, footstamps and the like] ).</p>
<p>I would imagine that I&#8217;m also an outlier in being a long-time reader who lacks a standard-issue college degree. I do however have an advanced degree of a different sort that is (almost always) socially and (reasonably often) academically considered more or less the equivalent of a doctorate so my response in Razib&#8217;s polls over the years have likely jumped between the two poles of &#8220;some college&#8221; and &#8220;post-graduate degree&#8221;. Unfortunately in any reasonably short poll it&#8217;s somewhat difficult to call out all of the fine nuances that would appear were there separate questions for the religion of most of your grandparents vs. your religion (Jewish/Agnostic) or personal social preferences vs. what you believe would be most beneficial for most people (Liberal/Conservative).</p>
<p>Oh, and I&#8217;m likely within a rather small minority of commenters here who has taken calculus courses despite not being a college grad. I wish I could say I was a virgin too but, alas, the sirens hath overcome me with their feminine wiles and I must join the damned but happy who have known the sin of the serpent&#8217;s flesh.</p>
<p>Anyhow, I hope this thread isn&#8217;t sufficiently dry so as to preclude the promised ridicule and shunning <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Bring it on you Libertarian retards and Liberal ostriches! I&#8217;m kidding, I love ya all. Let a thousand flowers bloom and assume the &#8220;airplane&#8221; position (Maoist references, for the unfamiliar).</p>
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		<title>By: Razib Khan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/07/reader-survey-results-politics/#comment-23554</link>
		<dc:creator>Razib Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 22:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, that&#039;s what i was so specific with the definition. in the USA that&#039;s a specialized usage, but outside of the USA that&#039;s arguably the more common usage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, that&#8217;s what i was so specific with the definition. in the USA that&#8217;s a specialized usage, but outside of the USA that&#8217;s arguably the more common usage.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Malloy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/07/reader-survey-results-politics/#comment-23553</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Malloy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 22:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, that was my assumption given the readership, but I&#039;m used to &#039;economic liberalism&#039; as a standard free market term.

I&#039;d like to know sex partner numbers as a function of highest level of math (prediction: more math, less sex), and math intensity of college major (prediction: more math less sex. Higher numbers for arts and humanities).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, that was my assumption given the readership, but I&#8217;m used to &#8216;economic liberalism&#8217; as a standard free market term.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to know sex partner numbers as a function of highest level of math (prediction: more math, less sex), and math intensity of college major (prediction: more math less sex. Higher numbers for arts and humanities).</p>
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		<title>By: Razib Khan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/07/reader-survey-results-politics/#comment-23552</link>
		<dc:creator>Razib Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 22:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How liberal on economic issues are you? (as in favoring redistribution and/or state intervention in the economy. 10 = extreme liberal, 5 = at the national median, 0 = extreme conservative)&quot;

clear enough?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How liberal on economic issues are you? (as in favoring redistribution and/or state intervention in the economy. 10 = extreme liberal, 5 = at the national median, 0 = extreme conservative)&#8221;</p>
<p>clear enough?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Malloy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/07/reader-survey-results-politics/#comment-23551</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Malloy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 22:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m confused by the labels. By &quot;economic liberalism&quot; do you mean more free market (10 being Libertarian Utopia) or less free market (10 being Socialist Utopia)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confused by the labels. By &#8220;economic liberalism&#8221; do you mean more free market (10 being Libertarian Utopia) or less free market (10 being Socialist Utopia)?</p>
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		<title>By: Divalent</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/07/reader-survey-results-politics/#comment-23550</link>
		<dc:creator>Divalent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like there is a strong correlation between selecting an even or odd number to define oneself on one scale and selecting the same (even or odd) on the other.  (Who are these odd people?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like there is a strong correlation between selecting an even or odd number to define oneself on one scale and selecting the same (even or odd) on the other.  (Who are these odd people?)</p>
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		<title>By: Razib Khan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/07/reader-survey-results-politics/#comment-23549</link>
		<dc:creator>Razib Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JL, fixed.

daniel, you&#039;re such a fucking nerd :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JL, fixed.</p>
<p>daniel, you&#8217;re such a fucking nerd <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: EcoPhysioMichelle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/07/reader-survey-results-politics/#comment-23548</link>
		<dc:creator>EcoPhysioMichelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to see number of sexual partners vs. education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to see number of sexual partners vs. education.</p>
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		<title>By: miko</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/07/reader-survey-results-politics/#comment-23547</link>
		<dc:creator>miko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outliers, please identify yourselves for ridicule and shunning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outliers, please identify yourselves for ridicule and shunning.</p>
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		<title>By: John Emerson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/07/reader-survey-results-politics/#comment-23546</link>
		<dc:creator>John Emerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of your readership seems happiest with 7, 8  or 9. The chart doesn&#039;t go up to 11, so it misses the Spinal Tap sector.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of your readership seems happiest with 7, 8  or 9. The chart doesn&#8217;t go up to 11, so it misses the Spinal Tap sector.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/07/reader-survey-results-politics/#comment-23545</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could have taken into consideration different conceptions of liberty; from less-narrowly-defined libertarian freedom as non-interference, which makes it compatible with various forms of dependence (eg. poverty and even benevolent non-interfering dictatorship) to the more demanding Jeffersonian freedom as non-dependence, which requires freedom from arbitrary power not just from actual interference.

The fact that the latter is completely off the radar is itself an ideological bias and shows a wonderfully naive historical (in)sensibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could have taken into consideration different conceptions of liberty; from less-narrowly-defined libertarian freedom as non-interference, which makes it compatible with various forms of dependence (eg. poverty and even benevolent non-interfering dictatorship) to the more demanding Jeffersonian freedom as non-dependence, which requires freedom from arbitrary power not just from actual interference.</p>
<p>The fact that the latter is completely off the radar is itself an ideological bias and shows a wonderfully naive historical (in)sensibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention Reader survey results: politics &#124; Gene Expression &#124; Discover Magazine -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Reader survey results: politics &#124; Gene Expression &#124; Discover Magazine -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by razib khan, Cary D Conover, Mark Davids, World Amazing Things, Sains &amp; Teknologi and others. Sains &amp; Teknologi said: Reader survey results: politics &#124; Gene Expression: Since the reader survey is topping out in response, I though I’... http://bit.ly/cWN8lP [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by razib khan, Cary D Conover, Mark Davids, World Amazing Things, Sains &amp; Teknologi and others. Sains &amp; Teknologi said: Reader survey results: politics | Gene Expression: Since the reader survey is topping out in response, I though I’&#8230; <a href="http://bit.ly/cWN8lP" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/cWN8lP</a> [...] </p>
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		<title>By: Charles Iliya Krempeaux</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/07/reader-survey-results-politics/#comment-23543</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Iliya Krempeaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Razib said...
&quot;&lt;i&gt;[I]f you want to know something about the data, ask in the comments.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

How about seeing graphs for:
- muscularity against math skills
- muscularity against knowing a programming language
- muscularity against socioeconomic status
- muscularity against household income in relation to the national mean

(Feel free to say &quot;no&quot; of course :-) )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Razib said&#8230;<br />
&#8220;<i>[I]f you want to know something about the data, ask in the comments.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>How about seeing graphs for:<br />
- muscularity against math skills<br />
- muscularity against knowing a programming language<br />
- muscularity against socioeconomic status<br />
- muscularity against household income in relation to the national mean</p>
<p>(Feel free to say &#8220;no&#8221; of course <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
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		<title>By: JL</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/07/reader-survey-results-politics/#comment-23542</link>
		<dc:creator>JL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t browse the results. This is what it says:

&lt;i&gt;The survey creator has elected to maintain privacy for the results of this survey. If you believe that this survey&#039;s results should be openly shared, please refer the survey owner to the Help Center: How do I share the results of my survey?&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t browse the results. This is what it says:</p>
<p><i>The survey creator has elected to maintain privacy for the results of this survey. If you believe that this survey&#8217;s results should be openly shared, please refer the survey owner to the Help Center: How do I share the results of my survey?</i></p>
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