DISCOVER Magazine. Science, Technology and The Future
Current Issue
Subscribe Today »
  • Renew
  • Give a Gift
  • Archives
  • Customer Service
  • Facebook
  • Twitter
  • Newsletter
  • Health & Medicine
  • Mind & Brain
  • Technology
  • Space
  • Human Origins
  • Living World
  • Environment
  • Physics & Math
  • Video
  • Photos
  • Podcast
  • RSS
Gene Expression
« Japanese as Solarians
The Future is Kennedy »

Marc Hauser: the end is nigh?

David Dobbs has a link roundup and commentary on what’s been going down with l’affaire Hauser. It doesn’t look good for Hauser et al., though it seems that the downfall was precipitated ultimately from within if press reports are to be believed. Part of the issue here seems to be that there’s a level of opacity in the scientific process, and you have to trust the scientists themselves over the short term. Over the long term the system of science and its general culture tends to self-correct, at least in the natural sciences, but over the long term careers can rise and fall, and science is produced by human beings. We know that science is possible, it’s been done for at least a few centuries even with the most constrained definitions, but we also know that it isn’t necessarily entailed by the existence of any complex society. A particular set of contingent conditions need to come together to allow for its emergence and perpetuation. So it’s all fine and good to observe that science as a system self-corrects, but without the individual incentives and institutional checks & balances it may never have a chance to flower.

This brings me to Dobbs’ comment about more “open science”:

One worry about more open review — which I can relate to as a journalist — is that one’s ideas get opened up and spread around before publication. This raises worries about ownership and priority and credit, worries that are reasonable, or at least hard to resist, in a culture that especially prizes and rewards these things, and which bases tenure, not to mention fame and prestige and all the accompanying goodies, on breaking the big theory or story. Science in that way closely parallels journalism.

Others argue that our emphasis on individual credit overlooks the collaborative nature of science to start with, and that a more honest approach (in a couple sense of the term) is to share data far earlier in the process. Such open science, the argument goes, would a) let many eyes mine the data so we get more out of it, b) reduce duplication of efforts, and c) serve as a constant check against everything from misreading data to fabricating it.

As the production and transmission of information becomes more “transparent” due to the nature of communication technology I wonder if concerns about ownership will abate, simply because transparency will allow for better reconstruction of the chain of creation and so implied ownership. This may not suffice for patents, but when it comes to scientific glory where reputation and not money is at stake, it may be good enough.

Share

August 14th, 2010 Tags: Science
by Razib Khan in Science | 12 comments | RSS feed | Trackback >

12 Responses to “Marc Hauser: the end is nigh?”

  1. 1.   Tweets that mention Marc Hauser: the end is nigh? | Gene Expression | Discover Magazine -- Topsy.com Says:
    August 14th, 2010 at 1:17 pm

    [...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by razib khan, Ron Simon. Ron Simon said: Marc Hauser: the end is nigh?: David Dobbs has a link roundup and commentary on what’s been going … http://bit.ly/cbEKUM [...]

  2. 2.   occamseraser Says:
    August 14th, 2010 at 1:33 pm

    “…but when it comes to scientific glory where reputation and not money is at stake, it may be good enough.”

    But money is also at stake: grant $, book $, lecture curcuit $, merit $
    Issues of IP and “ownership” will always matter.
    “Money changes everything” (C. Lauper)

  3. 3.   Zora Says:
    August 14th, 2010 at 3:11 pm

    Years ago, when I was in graduate school, I read a book on religion (since lost, author and title forgotten) that aimed a passing shot at academia: any intellectual effort dedicated primarily at money/fame/tenure was compromised at its root. Selfless devotion to uncovering truth or presenting useful information, on the other hand, could be a spiritual endeavor.

    When academics become bureaucrats, skilled at adopting the expedient beliefs and massaging the right egos in order to assure a safe little niche in the bureaucracy, they corrupt scholarship.

    The Hauser scandal is one result of careerism run amok.

    Spinoza is a better role model for intellectuals. Support yourself with manual labor, if necessary, and write fearlessly.

  4. 4.   hilzoy Says:
    August 14th, 2010 at 4:29 pm

    Um, have you ever tried to do serious research while supporting yourself with manual labor? I have. It’s really, really hard. Manual labor is tiring (at least, mine was.) You spend eight hours a day — more, if you count commuting — doing something other than your research. Even when I was trying to do serious research while doing less physical work — computer programming, working at a battered women’s shelter — it was pretty tough.

  5. 5.   Anthony Says:
    August 14th, 2010 at 6:27 pm

    “b) reduce duplication of efforts”

    Is this really a feature? Aren’t we better off having two independent data sets rather than one?

  6. 6.   bioIgnoramus Says:
    August 15th, 2010 at 3:54 am

    @Anthony, some sciences are underpopulated – work isn’t replicated enough for the sceptical man to put much trust in it – others overpopulated – the careerists are in a perpetual sprint to be first to the line, and lots of money and talent is wasted in needless replication of work, particularly if many of the workers skimp in some important respects so that the results, even if apparently replicated, are still untrustworthy.

  7. 7.   John Emerson Says:
    August 15th, 2010 at 10:12 am

    In science the apparatus and supplies normally required for most serious research preclude self-funding for anyone but the very rich. There may be a few fields where this isn’t true but the research biologists I used to know were running high-dollar operations.

    In something more humanities-like it’s quite possible (I’ve done it). But you need to find a job which is neither stressful nor exhausting, but they are becoming fewer, and hopefully it should be enough different in kind than your research that you come to the research fresh.

    Leibniz, who was a man of the world and even a bit corrupt (the opposite of Spinoza) is supposed to have said something like “People would disagree about arithmetic if there was enough money in it.” But I can’t remember the source, and at the moment I personally am the main internet source.

  8. 8.   DK Says:
    August 15th, 2010 at 2:46 pm

    Is it a typo: “et al.,” instead of “at all”? In the context, I don’t think you can refer to “Hauser and others”.

    Between seeing Harvard’s response, asking one of my Boston buddies and reading between the line of Wade’s NYT note, it looks like it might, in fact, be the worst possible scenario. Naked F word. And yes, peer review totally sucks and sucked for a very long time.

    when it comes to scientific glory where reputation and not money is at stake

    Oh, c’mon, the two are intimately linked.

  9. 9.   Razib Khan Says:
    August 15th, 2010 at 6:55 pm

    Is it a typo: “et al.,” instead of “at all”? In the context, I don’t think you can refer to “Hauser and others”.

    yeah, i shouldn’t have been “et al.” we don’t know the full story yet.

  10. 10.   DrugMonkey Says:
    August 17th, 2010 at 10:55 am

    It bears reminding that in this particular case, some of Hauser’s most interesting* work uses a research species is critically endangered. This has bearing on data replication issues even beyond the fact that primatology is a tiny, tiny discipline. Not just anyone can gain access to a population for study. Not just any institution, for that matter, could have them.

    *in the sense that “omg, these NewWorld primates express behavior like some OldWorld primates”.

  11. 11.   Vasha Says:
    August 19th, 2010 at 11:38 pm

    Leibniz, who was a man of the world and even a bit corrupt (the opposite of Spinoza) is supposed to have said something like “People would disagree about arithmetic if there was enough money in it.”

    That was actually Hobbes, and the full quote from Leviathan is “Men care not, in [geometry], what be truth, as a thing that crosses no man’s ambition, profit or lust. For I doubt not, but if it had been a thing contrary to any man’s right of dominion, or to the interest of men that have dominion, that the three sides of a triangle, should be equal to two angles of a square; that doctrine should have been, if not disputed, yet by the burning of all books of geometry, suppressed, as far as he whom it concerned was able.”

  12. 12.   Sandgroper Says:
    August 20th, 2010 at 5:55 am

    http://chronicle.com/article/Document-Sheds-Light-on/123988/

    Credit: Greg Laden





    • About Gene Expression

      Razib Khan’s degrees are in biochemistry and biology. He has blogged about genetics since 2002, previously worked in software development, is an Unz Foundation Junior Fellow and lives in the western US. He loves habaneros.

    • Search

    • Recent Comments

      • Anthony on Are Hispanics that socially conservative?
      • DK on The utility and reality of species
      • Razib Khan on An Orientalist fantasy
      • Wulf Kurtoglu on An Orientalist fantasy
      • Larry, San Francisco on Vaccination as heterodoxy
    • Must Read List

      • Principles of Population Genetics
      • Quantitative Genetics
      • The Horse, the Wheel, and Language
      • Albion's Seed
      • The Blank Slate
    • Links

      Blogroll

      Blogroll

      • A Replicated Typo
      • Archives at unz.org
      • Brown Pundits
      • Deep Sea News
      • Dienekes
      • Gene Expression Classic
      • Harappa Ancestry Project
      • John Hawks
      • Less Wrong
      • Randall Parker
      • Razib on Books
      • Razib's Aggregator Blog
      • Secular Right
      • Sepia Mutiny
      • Steve Sailer
      • West Hunter
      Q & A

      Q & A

      • A. W. F. Edwards
      • Adam K. Webb
      • Armand Leroi
      • Bruce Lahn
      • Charles C. Mann
      • Charles Murray
      • Dan Sperber
      • David Haig
      • Heather Mac Donald
      • Hugh Pope
      • James F. Crow
      • John Derbyshire
      • Jon Entine
      • Judith Rich Harris
      • Justin L. Barrett
      • Ken Miller
      • Matthew Stewart
      • Parag Khanna
      • Peter Turchin
      • Warren Treadgold
      Books

      Books

      • 1491
      • 1848
      • A Beautiful Math
      • A Concise Economic History of the World
      • A Farewell to Alms
      • A History of Christianity
      • A History of Iran
      • A History of the Byzantine State and Society
      • A Reason for Everything
      • A Separate Creation
      • A Splendid Exchange
      • A Theory of Religion
      • A World History
      • Aboriginal Australians
      • Adaptation and Natural Selection
      • After Tamerlane
      • After the Ice
      • Age of Abundance
      • Albion's Seed
      • American Judaism
      • Banana
      • Before the Dawn
      • Behavioral Genetics in the Postgenomic Era
      • Biometry
      • Blood of the Isles
      • Bones, Stones and Molecules
      • Born That Way
      • Calculus Made Easy
      • Castes of Mind
      • Catholicism and Freedom
      • Causes of Evolution
      • Children of the Revolution
      • China in World History
      • China's Cosmopolitan Empire
      • China: A New History
      • Clash of Extremes
      • Contours of the World Economy 1-2030 AD
      • Darwin's Cathedral
      • Dawn of Human Culture
      • Deep Ancestry
      • Defenders of the Truth
      • Descartes' Baby
      • Divided by the Faith
      • Dragon Bone Hill
      • Empires and Barbarians
      • Empires of the Silk Road
      • Empires of the Word
      • End of the Bronze Age
      • Endless Forms Most Beautiful
      • Epistasis and Evolutionary Process
      • Europe
      • Europe After Rome
      • Europe Between the Oceans
      • Evolution
      • Evolution and the Genetics of Populations
      • Evolution for Everyone
      • Evolutionary Dynamics
      • Evolutionary Genetics
      • Evolutionary Human Genetics
      • Evolutionary Quantitative Genetics
      • Explaining Culture
      • Fooled By Randomness
      • Fourth Crusade & the Sack of Constantinople
      • Freedom Just Around the Corner
      • From Plato to Nato
      • Genetical Theory of Natural Selection
      • Genetics and Analysis of Quantitative Traits
      • Genetics and Origins of Species
      • Genetics of Populations
      • Genghis Khan & the Making of the Modern World
      • Genome
      • Geography of Thought
      • Global Capitalism
      • God's War
      • Grand New Party
      • Grooming, Gossip, and the Evolution of Language
      • Guns, Germs, and Steel
      • Historical Dynamics
      • History of Rome
      • How Pleasure Works
      • How Rome Fell
      • How We Decide
      • In Gods We Trust
      • In Search of the Trojan War
      • India: A New History
      • Infidels
      • Journey of Man
      • Keepers of the Keys of Heaven
      • Knowledge and the Wealth of Nations
      • Mapping Human History
      • Marketplace of the Gods
      • Mathematical Models in Biology
      • Molecular Evolution
      • Molecular Markers, Natural History, and Evolution
      • Mother Nature
      • Mutants
      • Narrow Roads of Gene Land 1
      • Narrow Roads of Gene Land 2
      • Narrow Roads of Gene Land 3
      • Natural Selection and Social Theory
      • Nature via Nurture
      • No Two Alike
      • Of Moths and Men
      • Origin and Evolution of Cultures
      • Origins of Theoretical Population Genetics
      • Out of Thin Air
      • Pandora's Seed
      • Plagues and Peoples
      • Population Genetics and Microevolutionary Theory
      • Population Genetics, Molecular Evolution, and the Neutral Theory
      • Postwar
      • Power and Plenty
      • Predictably Irrational
      • Prehistory of the Mind
      • Principles of Population Genetics
      • Pursuit of Glory
      • Quantitative Genetics
      • R.A. Fisher, the Life of a Scientist
      • Reading in the Brain
      • Religion Explained
      • Rome and Jersalem
      • Sailing to Byzantium
      • Sewall Wright and Evolutionary Biology
      • Sociobiology
      • Speciation
      • Statistical Methods in Molecular Evolution
      • Supernatural Selection
      • Survival of the Prettiest
      • Synaptic Self
      • Tempo and Mode in Evolution
      • The 10,000 Year Explosion
      • The Age of Confucian Rule
      • The Age of Lincoln
      • The Altruism Equation
      • The Ancestor's Tale
      • The Ascent of Money
      • The Barbarian Conversion
      • The Black Swan
      • The Blank Slate
      • The Classical World
      • The Creationists
      • The Cultural Origins of Human Cognition
      • The Darwin Wars
      • The Descent of Man
      • The Early Chinese Empires
      • The Essential Difference
      • The Evolutionists
      • The Faith Instinct
      • The Fall of Rome
      • The Fall of the Roman Empire
      • The g Factor
      • The Genetics of Human Populations
      • The Germanization of Early Medieval Christianity
      • The Great Arab Conquests
      • The Great Divergence
      • The Great Human Diasporas
      • The Great Upheaval
      • The History and Geography of Human Genes
      • The Horse, the Wheel, and Language
      • The Human Web
      • The Imitation Factor
      • The Invisible Gorilla
      • The Language Instinct
      • The Making of a Christian Aristoracy
      • The Math Gene
      • The Mating Mind
      • The Meme Machine
      • The Moral Animal
      • The Number Sense
      • The Nurture Assumption
      • The Origin of Species
      • The Origin Of The Mind
      • The Origins of Virtue
      • The Power of Babel
      • The Price of Altruism
      • The Red Queen
      • The Reformation
      • The Rise of Western Christendom
      • The Sacred Chain
      • The Selfish Gene
      • The Seven Daughters of Eve
      • The Stuff of Thought
      • The Symbolic Species
      • The Tenth Parallel
      • The Troubled Empire
      • The Vertigo Years
      • The Vikings
      • Throes of Democracy
      • Unknown Quantity
      • Unto Others
      • War and Peace and War
      • War, Wine, and Taxes
      • We Are Doomed
      • Wealth and Poverty of Nations
      • What Hath God Wrought
      • When Baghdad Ruled the Muslim World
      • When Genius Failed
      • Why Sex Matters
      • Why Some Like It Hot
    • Elsewhere on DISCOVER

      RSS Genetics in DISCOVER mag

      Genetics in DISCOVER

      • Can Stuffing Germs up Ferrets Unleash a Human Pandemic?
      • 20 Things You Didn't Know About... Allergies
      • The Brain: Hidden Epidemic: 
Tapeworms Living Inside People's Brains
      • The Hagfish's Special Trick for Warding Off Predators: Thick, Sticky Mucus
      • The Big, Overlooked Factor in the Rise of Pandemics: The Human Vector
      • Does Rain Come From Life in the Clouds?
      • Gallery | 6 Creepy-Crawlies We Hate But Couldn't Do Without
      • Plants Repel Bacteria's Assaults by Spying on Their Chatter
    • Gene Expression content

      RSS Recent Posts

      Recent Posts

      • Fear of a black past
      • A quick note on comments policy
      • An Orientalist fantasy
      • Vaccination as heterodoxy
      • Hispanos and Sephardic ancestry
      • Are Hispanics that socially conservative?
      • The utility and reality of species
      • The American Community Survey: mend it, don’t end it!
      Categories

      Categories

      • Administration
      • Agriculture
      • Anthroplogy
      • Ask a ScienceBlogger
      • Barbarism
      • Behavior Genetics
      • Bioethics
      • Biology
      • Biotech
      • Blog
      • Books
      • Cognitive Science
      • Creationism
      • Culture
      • Data Analysis
      • Demographics
      • Development
      • Ecology
      • Economics
      • Education
      • Environment
      • Evolution
      • Evolutionary Genetics
      • Evolutionary Psychology
      • Fantasy
      • Food
      • Futurism
      • Genetics
      • Genomics
      • Geography
      • GSS
      • Health
      • History
      • Human Evolution
      • Human Evolutionary Genetics
      • Human Evolutionary Genomics
      • Human Genetics
      • Human Genomics
      • International Affairs
      • Linguistics
      • Medicine
      • Paleontology
      • Personal Genomics
      • philosophy
      • Politics
      • Population Genetics
      • Psychology
      • Quantitative Genetics
      • Race
      • Religion
      • Science
      • Science Fiction
      • Select
      • Social Science
      • Space
      • Sports
      • Statistics
      • Technology
      • Transhumanism
      • Uncategorized
      Archives

      Archives

      • May 2012
      • April 2012
      • March 2012
      • February 2012
      • January 2012
      • December 2011
      • November 2011
      • October 2011
      • September 2011
      • August 2011
      • July 2011
      • June 2011
      • May 2011
      • April 2011
      • March 2011
      • February 2011
      • January 2011
      • December 2010
      • November 2010
      • October 2010
      • September 2010
      • August 2010
      • July 2010
      • June 2010
      • May 2010
      • April 2010
      • March 2010
      • February 2010
      • January 2010
      • December 2009
      • November 2009
      • October 2009
      • September 2009
      • August 2009
      • July 2009
      • June 2009
      • May 2009
      • April 2009
      • March 2009
      • February 2009
      • January 2009
      • December 2008
      • November 2008
      • October 2008
      • September 2008
      • August 2008
      • July 2008
      • June 2008
      • May 2008
      • April 2008
      • March 2008
      • February 2008
      • January 2008
      • December 2007
      • November 2007
      • October 2007
      • September 2007
      • August 2007
      • July 2007
      • June 2007
      • May 2007
      • April 2007
      • March 2007
      • February 2007
      • January 2007
      • December 2006
      • November 2006
      • October 2006
      • September 2006
      • August 2006
      • July 2006
      • June 2006
      • May 2006
      • April 2006
      • March 2006
      • February 2006
      • January 2006
    • Meta

      • Log in
      • Entries RSS
      • Comments RSS
      • WordPress.org
    • RSS Razib’s Pinboard Feed

      • Abortion polls, gay marriage polls: Why are we becoming liberal on some issues but not others? - Slate Magazine
      • At CUNY’s Top Colleges, Black and Hispanic Freshmen Enrollments Drop - NYTimes.com
      • Megafaunal Extinctions
      • New Details Are Released in Shooting of Trayvon Martin - NYTimes.com
      • White American babies are now in the minority. Why does the census divide people by race, anyway? - Slate Magazine
      • When you eat matters, not just what you eat
      • Can You Call a 9-Year-Old a Psychopath? - NYTimes.com
      • A Circle of Tech in Silicon Valley - Collect Payout, Do a Start-Up - NYTimes.com
      • Archaeologists Unearth Ancient Maya Calendar Writing - NYTimes.com
      • Repeat act: Parallel selection tweaks many of the same genes to make big and heavy mice
      • Blond as a window to ancient pigmentation variation
      • Eugenics, Malthusianism, and Trepidation, Bryan Caplan | EconLog | Library of Economics and Liberty
      • Textuality: The Jews Are a Race, Geneticist Says
      • The designer baby factory: Eggs from beautiful Eastern Europeans. Sperm from wealthy Westerners. And embryos implanted in desperate women. | Mail Online
      • Arab Spring Stirs Palestinian Journalists to Test Free Speech Limits - NYTimes.com
      • Barack Obama | Racial Diversity | Civil Rights | 2012 Election | The Daily Caller
      • Could These Start-Ups Become the Next Big Thing? - NYTimes.com
      • Steve Sailer's iSteve Blog: Pym Fortuyn, RIP
      • Never mind Europe; worry about India's economic growth - The Economic Times
      • 9 Swing States, Critical to Presidential Race, Are Mixed Lot - NYTimes.com


  • Kalmbach Publishing Co.

    Copyright © 2012, Kalmbach Publishing Co.

    Privacy - Terms - Reader Services - Subscribe Today - Advertise - About Us