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		<title>By: Sid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 18:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m on OKC, and it&#039;s not entirely clear that ratings are based solely on looks; my impression is that men and women rate based a great deal based on profile content as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m on OKC, and it&#8217;s not entirely clear that ratings are based solely on looks; my impression is that men and women rate based a great deal based on profile content as well.</p>
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		<title>By: maggie lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>maggie lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 16:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me the way it works is this: men have a simple set of parameters when they look at a woman&#039;s photo:

One: will I be embarrassed to be seen with her in front of my friends? If so, too &quot;ugly.&quot;

Two: Will I be humiliated when she laughs at my picture because she is so beautiful she&#039;d never want me? If so, too &quot;stuck-up.&quot;

If she falls somewhere in-between on the looks scale, they move on to secondary criteria.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me the way it works is this: men have a simple set of parameters when they look at a woman&#8217;s photo:</p>
<p>One: will I be embarrassed to be seen with her in front of my friends? If so, too &#8220;ugly.&#8221;</p>
<p>Two: Will I be humiliated when she laughs at my picture because she is so beautiful she&#8217;d never want me? If so, too &#8220;stuck-up.&#8221;</p>
<p>If she falls somewhere in-between on the looks scale, they move on to secondary criteria.</p>
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		<title>By: Scientists are mad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scientists are mad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 07:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article is written and read by scietific priented people who are beauty blind . Frieda Pinto would settle as Karisma&#039;s maid servant at best.
If you want to understand the true meaning of beautiful face take these simple natural tests :-
1. Get a 1-2 year old baby near Freida and karisma and tell both actress not to do any actions . See where the baby gets attracted to.it would be karisma
2. Ask an uneducated a not so aware and unbiased person who is more beautiful the answer would be Karisma.
The educated and politicised people would only say Freida,.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is written and read by scietific priented people who are beauty blind . Frieda Pinto would settle as Karisma&#8217;s maid servant at best.<br />
If you want to understand the true meaning of beautiful face take these simple natural tests :-<br />
1. Get a 1-2 year old baby near Freida and karisma and tell both actress not to do any actions . See where the baby gets attracted to.it would be karisma<br />
2. Ask an uneducated a not so aware and unbiased person who is more beautiful the answer would be Karisma.<br />
The educated and politicised people would only say Freida,.</p>
<p>[retard comment posted for amusement -R] </p>
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		<title>By: Nandalal Rasiah</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/01/the-rules-of-attraction-the-not-so-golden-mean/#comment-29929</link>
		<dc:creator>Nandalal Rasiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 19:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ha, I have exactly the features you wrote may seem &quot;ludicrous&quot; on men and emphasizing them in the profile picture seems to have helped my second go-round on okc.  I am now inspired to see what else, other than the brown skin,  fits into a &#039;good&#039; deviation from the mean.  You have to be careful, however, given the locale--whether the people&#039;s republic of portland or the capital of confederacy.

For how women view men, you could have had quite a bit of fun with south indian actors as the difference seems even more stark--explaining the appeal of Kamal Haasan and Rajnikanth to American peers when they&#039;ve probably only seen the guy who played &quot;Dr. Suresh&quot; on &#039;Heroes&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ha, I have exactly the features you wrote may seem &#8220;ludicrous&#8221; on men and emphasizing them in the profile picture seems to have helped my second go-round on okc.  I am now inspired to see what else, other than the brown skin,  fits into a &#8216;good&#8217; deviation from the mean.  You have to be careful, however, given the locale&#8211;whether the people&#8217;s republic of portland or the capital of confederacy.</p>
<p>For how women view men, you could have had quite a bit of fun with south indian actors as the difference seems even more stark&#8211;explaining the appeal of Kamal Haasan and Rajnikanth to American peers when they&#8217;ve probably only seen the guy who played &#8220;Dr. Suresh&#8221; on &#8216;Heroes&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 22:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a good thing I&#039;m no longer in the dating market.  If I were to put my particular, ahem, standard of feminine beauty in the profile, OK Cupid would reject it as inappropriate :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a good thing I&#8217;m no longer in the dating market.  If I were to put my particular, ahem, standard of feminine beauty in the profile, OK Cupid would reject it as inappropriate <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: pconroy</title>
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		<dc:creator>pconroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 21:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perahu - I would agree also</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perahu &#8211; I would agree also</p>
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		<title>By: Perahu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perahu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Freida Pinto is in my opinion much better looking than Karisma Kapoor as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freida Pinto is in my opinion much better looking than Karisma Kapoor as well.</p>
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		<title>By: pconroy</title>
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		<dc:creator>pconroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used be on OKCupid years ago, and didn&#039;t like it as a serious dating site at all, better as a hookup site I think. What I liked best were the Quizzes. I also tried eHarmony and it&#039;s a total waste of money, as they won&#039;t match you based on your criteria, but their own. They use a gimmick, where their system compels you to share lots of information and answer lots of mutual questions, before you ever see the other person - in the hope that you then won&#039;t run for the hills, if she&#039;s ugly.

IMO Match.com is still the best, simply because they had first mover advantage and have a monster database, and so you can be very selective in your matching criteria.

I&#039;m lucky in that, like Razib references, I have non-typical US standards of beauty - as I&#039;m not an American - and so my top picks are often NOT too popular with other guys. I particularly like curvier women, and eschew skinny ones, so I used have a lot of cute women, whom typical American males find fat, that were right in my ballpark. I also have a liking for women with Mediterranean type features, which is again not always popular with US men, not to mention that Mediterranean women are more temperamental/passionate and intense, which I also like.

Using these criteria, I met online the mother of my daughter - a curvy, passionate French woman, who bore a close likeness to the Pakistani model:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://i41.tinypic.com/96jmzk.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;1. Iman Ali&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://i39.tinypic.com/11twepg.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;2. Iman Ali&lt;/a&gt;

While the mother of my son, I also met online,  is somewhat like a curvier Kate Winslet.

It also meant that when I was approached by attractive skinny women online, I would always be indifferent/aloof - as they&#039;re not really my cup of tea - and that would drive up their attraction for me, as it would make me seem more Alpha?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used be on OKCupid years ago, and didn&#8217;t like it as a serious dating site at all, better as a hookup site I think. What I liked best were the Quizzes. I also tried eHarmony and it&#8217;s a total waste of money, as they won&#8217;t match you based on your criteria, but their own. They use a gimmick, where their system compels you to share lots of information and answer lots of mutual questions, before you ever see the other person &#8211; in the hope that you then won&#8217;t run for the hills, if she&#8217;s ugly.</p>
<p>IMO Match.com is still the best, simply because they had first mover advantage and have a monster database, and so you can be very selective in your matching criteria.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m lucky in that, like Razib references, I have non-typical US standards of beauty &#8211; as I&#8217;m not an American &#8211; and so my top picks are often NOT too popular with other guys. I particularly like curvier women, and eschew skinny ones, so I used have a lot of cute women, whom typical American males find fat, that were right in my ballpark. I also have a liking for women with Mediterranean type features, which is again not always popular with US men, not to mention that Mediterranean women are more temperamental/passionate and intense, which I also like.</p>
<p>Using these criteria, I met online the mother of my daughter &#8211; a curvy, passionate French woman, who bore a close likeness to the Pakistani model:<br />
<a href="http://i41.tinypic.com/96jmzk.jpg" rel="nofollow">1. Iman Ali</a><br />
<a href="http://i39.tinypic.com/11twepg.jpg" rel="nofollow">2. Iman Ali</a></p>
<p>While the mother of my son, I also met online,  is somewhat like a curvier Kate Winslet.</p>
<p>It also meant that when I was approached by attractive skinny women online, I would always be indifferent/aloof &#8211; as they&#8217;re not really my cup of tea &#8211; and that would drive up their attraction for me, as it would make me seem more Alpha?!</p>
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		<title>By: EcoPhysioMichelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>EcoPhysioMichelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 03:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m on OkCupid and I&#039;ve never rated anyone, ever. Granted, I haven&#039;t used it for dating in some time, but I never really used that feature. I actually wish I had a larger variety of experiences to draw from, because while I have dated a lot of people that I initially met online, only one of them was from an actual dating website (and it happens to be the guy I&#039;m dating now). My experience is consistent with the one OkCupid describes, though. I log in, read all my messages, reply to maybe 2% of them, and that&#039;s it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m on OkCupid and I&#8217;ve never rated anyone, ever. Granted, I haven&#8217;t used it for dating in some time, but I never really used that feature. I actually wish I had a larger variety of experiences to draw from, because while I have dated a lot of people that I initially met online, only one of them was from an actual dating website (and it happens to be the guy I&#8217;m dating now). My experience is consistent with the one OkCupid describes, though. I log in, read all my messages, reply to maybe 2% of them, and that&#8217;s it.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary B</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/01/the-rules-of-attraction-the-not-so-golden-mean/#comment-29923</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 03:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m on OKC.  The only women I rate are ones that I put in the 4 and 5 star ratings, and I only do that for perhaps 20% of the ones that I perceive that way - I just don&#039;t bother for most of them.  So I don&#039;t know how that skews the statistics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m on OKC.  The only women I rate are ones that I put in the 4 and 5 star ratings, and I only do that for perhaps 20% of the ones that I perceive that way &#8211; I just don&#8217;t bother for most of them.  So I don&#8217;t know how that skews the statistics.</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Knight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 03:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How good is the evidence for symmetry? For example, composite photos fail to distinguish between the symmetry hypothesis and the smooth skin hypothesis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How good is the evidence for symmetry? For example, composite photos fail to distinguish between the symmetry hypothesis and the smooth skin hypothesis.</p>
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		<title>By: EcoPhysioMichelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>EcoPhysioMichelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 02:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got annoyed with the use of the word &#039;fatty&#039; (I was a bit, um, rounder at the time) so she and I agreed to change it to Secret Internet Fake.  Same idea though, everyone using the Angles is trying to hide &lt;i&gt;something&lt;/i&gt;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got annoyed with the use of the word &#8216;fatty&#8217; (I was a bit, um, rounder at the time) so she and I agreed to change it to Secret Internet Fake.  Same idea though, everyone using the Angles is trying to hide <i>something</i>!</p>
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		<title>By: Razib Khan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Razib Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 02:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SM, SIF is great. there&#039;s a particular friend i need to tell that to....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SM, SIF is great. there&#8217;s a particular friend i need to tell that to&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: EcoPhysioMichelle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/01/the-rules-of-attraction-the-not-so-golden-mean/#comment-29919</link>
		<dc:creator>EcoPhysioMichelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 01:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with a lot of what you said here, but I don&#039;t think that MySpace angles matter as much as you think they do. They&#039;re like the caviar analogy you made earlier, some men are going to like it, others aren&#039;t.

My ex had a term for girls who used excessive MySpace angles. SIF, for Secret Internet Fatty. (Classy, I know, but I didn&#039;t date this individual for very long.) I think most people have wizened up to this method and assume that girls using these angles aren&#039;t actually as attractive as they appear, or at least that they&#039;re attempting to hide something.

I would love to see if this trend was repeated in lesbians, especially with respect to butch/femme dynamics. But that&#039;s another idea for another day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with a lot of what you said here, but I don&#8217;t think that MySpace angles matter as much as you think they do. They&#8217;re like the caviar analogy you made earlier, some men are going to like it, others aren&#8217;t.</p>
<p>My ex had a term for girls who used excessive MySpace angles. SIF, for Secret Internet Fatty. (Classy, I know, but I didn&#8217;t date this individual for very long.) I think most people have wizened up to this method and assume that girls using these angles aren&#8217;t actually as attractive as they appear, or at least that they&#8217;re attempting to hide something.</p>
<p>I would love to see if this trend was repeated in lesbians, especially with respect to butch/femme dynamics. But that&#8217;s another idea for another day.</p>
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		<title>By: ohwilleke</title>
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		<dc:creator>ohwilleke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 01:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two observations.

1.  Reactions to photos aren&#039;t necessarily entirely or mostly about physical appearance.  Clothing and context convey social symbols.  If your clothing, hairstyle and context show that you fit in a particular subcultural niche (e.g. tatooing millenials), this is going to win approval from niche members and disapproval from non-niche members.

2.  Messages are partially a way to get more information.  One reason a profile can get disparate reactions is that it has a paucity of visual information, or has information that is ambiguous (for example, because it contains a symbol, such as a rainbow, that has multiple cultural meanings).  Sending a message may represent the need of viewers to get more information in order to be able to evaluate the picture satisfactorily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two observations.</p>
<p>1.  Reactions to photos aren&#8217;t necessarily entirely or mostly about physical appearance.  Clothing and context convey social symbols.  If your clothing, hairstyle and context show that you fit in a particular subcultural niche (e.g. tatooing millenials), this is going to win approval from niche members and disapproval from non-niche members.</p>
<p>2.  Messages are partially a way to get more information.  One reason a profile can get disparate reactions is that it has a paucity of visual information, or has information that is ambiguous (for example, because it contains a symbol, such as a rainbow, that has multiple cultural meanings).  Sending a message may represent the need of viewers to get more information in order to be able to evaluate the picture satisfactorily.</p>
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