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	<title>Comments on: California justice and DNA databases</title>
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		<title>By: Matt B.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/05/california-justice-and-dna-databases/#comment-33046</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 19:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I live in Colorado, and I hadn&#039;t heard about its use here. Also, I&#039;d never heard of the word &quot;casuistical&quot; before. It looks like a misspelling, and yet there it is on dictionary.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I live in Colorado, and I hadn&#8217;t heard about its use here. Also, I&#8217;d never heard of the word &#8220;casuistical&#8221; before. It looks like a misspelling, and yet there it is on dictionary.com.</p>
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		<title>By: ohwilleke</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/05/california-justice-and-dna-databases/#comment-33045</link>
		<dc:creator>ohwilleke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 15:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;you always do.&quot;

Thanks for the backhanded vote of confidence. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;you always do.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for the backhanded vote of confidence. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: The Last Dire Issue Facing California,Fitted or Flat? &#171; YOU DECIDE</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/05/california-justice-and-dna-databases/#comment-33044</link>
		<dc:creator>The Last Dire Issue Facing California,Fitted or Flat? &#171; YOU DECIDE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 22:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] California justice and DNA databases &#124; Gene Expression (blogs.discovermagazine.com) [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] California justice and DNA databases | Gene Expression (blogs.discovermagazine.com) [...] </p>
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		<title>By: Razib Khan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/05/california-justice-and-dna-databases/#comment-33043</link>
		<dc:creator>Razib Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 21:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It isn’t clear to me that California’s family searching protocol has received a judicial blessing of its constitutionality&lt;/i&gt;

if it has social backing i&#039;m confident that your profession will produce some appropriate casuistical argument which validates it. you always do. i believe in induction :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It isn’t clear to me that California’s family searching protocol has received a judicial blessing of its constitutionality</i></p>
<p>if it has social backing i&#8217;m confident that your profession will produce some appropriate casuistical argument which validates it. you always do. i believe in induction <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ohwilleke</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/05/california-justice-and-dna-databases/#comment-33042</link>
		<dc:creator>ohwilleke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 20:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It isn&#039;t clear to me that California&#039;s family searching protocol has received a judicial blessing of its constitutionality.  There is a plausible argument that a family based genome matching search not supported by probable cause violates the Fourth Amendment and that any evidence procured by that means (including &quot;fruit of the poisonous tree&quot;) could be suppressed in a criminal prosecution of the family member.

The Fourth Amendment precedents on what constitutes a search or seizure for Fourth Amendment purposes in high technology areas is a mixed bag.  A wiretap, for example, has pretty universally been held to constitute a search, while an observation through an open window, even if it uses a telescope to get a better view than would be possible with the naked eye, has not.

Collecting DNA for use as evidence against someone who has been validly arrested with probable cause has generally been upheld, but there are few cases where this DNA has been used to create probable cause to believe that someone who has never been validly arrested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It isn&#8217;t clear to me that California&#8217;s family searching protocol has received a judicial blessing of its constitutionality.  There is a plausible argument that a family based genome matching search not supported by probable cause violates the Fourth Amendment and that any evidence procured by that means (including &#8220;fruit of the poisonous tree&#8221;) could be suppressed in a criminal prosecution of the family member.</p>
<p>The Fourth Amendment precedents on what constitutes a search or seizure for Fourth Amendment purposes in high technology areas is a mixed bag.  A wiretap, for example, has pretty universally been held to constitute a search, while an observation through an open window, even if it uses a telescope to get a better view than would be possible with the naked eye, has not.</p>
<p>Collecting DNA for use as evidence against someone who has been validly arrested with probable cause has generally been upheld, but there are few cases where this DNA has been used to create probable cause to believe that someone who has never been validly arrested.</p>
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		<title>By: Onur</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/05/california-justice-and-dna-databases/#comment-33041</link>
		<dc:creator>Onur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 20:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only powerful states or countries are governed so rationally. I congratulate California!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only powerful states or countries are governed so rationally. I congratulate California!</p>
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