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	<title>Comments on: The ethnic breakdown of 23andMe customers</title>
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		<title>By: Dragon Horse</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/06/the-ethnic-breakdown-of-23andme-customers/#comment-34039</link>
		<dc:creator>Dragon Horse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the piss poor writing above.  I was in a hurry. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the piss poor writing above.  I was in a hurry. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Razib Khan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/06/the-ethnic-breakdown-of-23andme-customers/#comment-34038</link>
		<dc:creator>Razib Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 22:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#6 is correct. the majority of african americans are defined as middle class in income, and have been for a while. it would be nice if people actually were familiar with primary demographic data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#6 is correct. the majority of african americans are defined as middle class in income, and have been for a while. it would be nice if people actually were familiar with primary demographic data.</p>
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		<title>By: Dragon Horse</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/06/the-ethnic-breakdown-of-23andme-customers/#comment-34037</link>
		<dc:creator>Dragon Horse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Middle Class African Americans are not a minority of African Americans, they are a majority of African Americans Leviticus...how are you determine Middle Class?  Most blacks in America have been Middle Class since the 1980&#039;s.  There are roughtly 40 million African Americans, and only about 20-25% live in poverty, depending on how you calculate that, so that means there a

I define Middle Class as between US$35 and $75,000 a year per capita.  I believe that is the typical measure.

2010 census data:

http://www.theroot.com/views/portrait-black-america-eve-2010-census

&quot;Black median family income was just over $41,000 in 2008, the lowest in the United States of any racial group. A single black woman with children earned a median annual income of $25,958.

No surprise then that one out of five black families lives in poverty. More than 40 percent of black families headed by a single mom are poor. &quot;

As bad as that sound, that is no way suggests that most blacks are poor or the Middle Class is a minority in a minority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Middle Class African Americans are not a minority of African Americans, they are a majority of African Americans Leviticus&#8230;how are you determine Middle Class?  Most blacks in America have been Middle Class since the 1980&#8242;s.  There are roughtly 40 million African Americans, and only about 20-25% live in poverty, depending on how you calculate that, so that means there a</p>
<p>I define Middle Class as between US$35 and $75,000 a year per capita.  I believe that is the typical measure.</p>
<p>2010 census data:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theroot.com/views/portrait-black-america-eve-2010-census" rel="nofollow">http://www.theroot.com/views/portrait-black-america-eve-2010-census</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Black median family income was just over $41,000 in 2008, the lowest in the United States of any racial group. A single black woman with children earned a median annual income of $25,958.</p>
<p>No surprise then that one out of five black families lives in poverty. More than 40 percent of black families headed by a single mom are poor. &#8221;</p>
<p>As bad as that sound, that is no way suggests that most blacks are poor or the Middle Class is a minority in a minority.</p>
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		<title>By: leviticus</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/06/the-ethnic-breakdown-of-23andme-customers/#comment-34036</link>
		<dc:creator>leviticus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Economics? African Americans remain, on average, less well off than other groups.  Middle-class African Americans, while an increasing percentage of their people, remain a minority within a minority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Economics? African Americans remain, on average, less well off than other groups.  Middle-class African Americans, while an increasing percentage of their people, remain a minority within a minority.</p>
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		<title>By: OmicsGuy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/06/the-ethnic-breakdown-of-23andme-customers/#comment-34035</link>
		<dc:creator>OmicsGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2011 14:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dont they have a limitation to the dataset? it obviously cant be true...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dont they have a limitation to the dataset? it obviously cant be true&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Razib Khan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/06/the-ethnic-breakdown-of-23andme-customers/#comment-34034</link>
		<dc:creator>Razib Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2011 10:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there are ~100 million punjabi speakers in the world. lest i checked there are ~5 million tam brahms, max, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there are ~100 million punjabi speakers in the world. lest i checked there are ~5 million tam brahms, max, right?</p>
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		<title>By: AV</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/06/the-ethnic-breakdown-of-23andme-customers/#comment-34033</link>
		<dc:creator>AV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2011 10:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;My main concern is that if HAP gets more well known Zack will have hundreds of Tamil Brahmins sending him pretty much duplicate genotypes.&lt;/i&gt;

Haters gonna hate, haha! But seriously, there are only 11 TBs in the project. Punjabis are rather populous, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>My main concern is that if HAP gets more well known Zack will have hundreds of Tamil Brahmins sending him pretty much duplicate genotypes.</i></p>
<p>Haters gonna hate, haha! But seriously, there are only 11 TBs in the project. Punjabis are rather populous, too.</p>
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		<title>By: pconroy</title>
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		<dc:creator>pconroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2011 04:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascinating!

I&#039;m Irish born and bred and have 608 Relatives as of today, which is approx 1 in 92 Northern Europeans.

My Sicilian grandmother-in-law has 62 Relatives as of today, which is approx 1 in 79 Southern Europeans

An Ashkenazi Jew I know has 2100 Relatives as of today, which is approx 1 in 3 Ashkenazi Jews

I&#039;m too am surprised that there are so few African Americans, as this is surely their best chance to determine ancestry. I&#039;m also surprised there are so few Jews, as I had heard that Ashkenazi Jews are approx 5th cousins, and thought there had to be over 10,000 as so many had such high number of matches - it would seem that the relationship is closer, more like 4th on average?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m Irish born and bred and have 608 Relatives as of today, which is approx 1 in 92 Northern Europeans.</p>
<p>My Sicilian grandmother-in-law has 62 Relatives as of today, which is approx 1 in 79 Southern Europeans</p>
<p>An Ashkenazi Jew I know has 2100 Relatives as of today, which is approx 1 in 3 Ashkenazi Jews</p>
<p>I&#8217;m too am surprised that there are so few African Americans, as this is surely their best chance to determine ancestry. I&#8217;m also surprised there are so few Jews, as I had heard that Ashkenazi Jews are approx 5th cousins, and thought there had to be over 10,000 as so many had such high number of matches &#8211; it would seem that the relationship is closer, more like 4th on average?!</p>
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