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		<title>By: ackbark</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/07/liberals-more-politically-picky-in-mates/#comment-35194</link>
		<dc:creator>ackbark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 22:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conservatives looking for liberals on dating sites may involve a stereotype among them that liberals are into immediate gratification and sexually &#039;experimental&#039;, up for a one-night stand or a quickie over lunch, where the opposite is really closer to the truth. (as per immediate gratification, at least).

Also perhaps the people using these sites aren&#039;t getting much out of their current scene and the reason for that may be that the liberals are actually conservatives without knowing it and the conservatives are actually liberals without knowing it.

#16 because at that age they are still learning how to get along with other people and treating them as responsible people inspires confidence and responsibility, while junk food in schools is taking the place of something that is not junk food and what kind of thing is that teaching us? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conservatives looking for liberals on dating sites may involve a stereotype among them that liberals are into immediate gratification and sexually &#8216;experimental&#8217;, up for a one-night stand or a quickie over lunch, where the opposite is really closer to the truth. (as per immediate gratification, at least).</p>
<p>Also perhaps the people using these sites aren&#8217;t getting much out of their current scene and the reason for that may be that the liberals are actually conservatives without knowing it and the conservatives are actually liberals without knowing it.</p>
<p>#16 because at that age they are still learning how to get along with other people and treating them as responsible people inspires confidence and responsibility, while junk food in schools is taking the place of something that is not junk food and what kind of thing is that teaching us? </p>
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		<title>By: Salamander</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/07/liberals-more-politically-picky-in-mates/#comment-35193</link>
		<dc:creator>Salamander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 15:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be curious if there was a difference in political pickiness by gender.

My immediate thought was &quot;Well, of course!&quot;  Because men tend to be more conservative than women, but are far less likely to make political views a dealbreaker.  I mean, I know plenty of female liberals who would NEVER even consider a date with a Republican or libertarian;  but I can&#039;t think of many men who would turn down a date with an otherwise attractive woman because they didn&#039;t agree politically.

For the woman, it is often a case of &quot;He&#039;s a conservative, and thus obviously wants me to be oppressed and perpetually pregnant whilst he gleefully withholds cash and food from poor people,&quot; whereas for the men it seems to be more of &quot;Well, she&#039;s got some wacky ideas, but she&#039;s really hot.&quot;    Probably something to do with the female propensity for emotionalizing things, and the male ability to detach and compartmentalize.

I&#039;d also be interested to see if there was a difference on eHarmony, where the participants are much more interested in marriage.  I would guess that eHarmony users are not only more conservative, but would also be inclined to be somewhat pickier in their matches as they are presumably looking for a permanent, marriageable partner.  That is a scenario in which I could see men being more concerned with their potential mate&#039;s political/religious/cultural views.

Regarding conservatives or liberals being more &quot;moralizing,&quot; in my experience they are probably about equal but about different things.   I&#039;m always amused by my liberal friends insisting that 16-year-olds should be treated as completely competent adults in all matters pertaining to sexuality, contraception, abortion, etc.,;  but that we need to get the junk-food vending machines out of the high schools because won&#039;t someone PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be curious if there was a difference in political pickiness by gender.</p>
<p>My immediate thought was &#8220;Well, of course!&#8221;  Because men tend to be more conservative than women, but are far less likely to make political views a dealbreaker.  I mean, I know plenty of female liberals who would NEVER even consider a date with a Republican or libertarian;  but I can&#8217;t think of many men who would turn down a date with an otherwise attractive woman because they didn&#8217;t agree politically.</p>
<p>For the woman, it is often a case of &#8220;He&#8217;s a conservative, and thus obviously wants me to be oppressed and perpetually pregnant whilst he gleefully withholds cash and food from poor people,&#8221; whereas for the men it seems to be more of &#8220;Well, she&#8217;s got some wacky ideas, but she&#8217;s really hot.&#8221;    Probably something to do with the female propensity for emotionalizing things, and the male ability to detach and compartmentalize.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also be interested to see if there was a difference on eHarmony, where the participants are much more interested in marriage.  I would guess that eHarmony users are not only more conservative, but would also be inclined to be somewhat pickier in their matches as they are presumably looking for a permanent, marriageable partner.  That is a scenario in which I could see men being more concerned with their potential mate&#8217;s political/religious/cultural views.</p>
<p>Regarding conservatives or liberals being more &#8220;moralizing,&#8221; in my experience they are probably about equal but about different things.   I&#8217;m always amused by my liberal friends insisting that 16-year-olds should be treated as completely competent adults in all matters pertaining to sexuality, contraception, abortion, etc.,;  but that we need to get the junk-food vending machines out of the high schools because won&#8217;t someone PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?</p>
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		<title>By: Razib Khan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/07/liberals-more-politically-picky-in-mates/#comment-35192</link>
		<dc:creator>Razib Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 19:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Conservatives accept human nature; liberals are determined to be moral and “clean”. Priggishness – a Teutonic vice&lt;/i&gt;

this is why conservatives oppose abstinence only programs and liberals support them? i think your conception is glib and superficial. explaining part of the specific answer with general frameworks, but predicting in the other direction on other specific issues, suggests that there isn&#039;t much juice in the framework. (in fact, david haidt finds that conservatives tend to be &#039;moralizers,&#039; though i have no idea about the underlying primary research there either....)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Conservatives accept human nature; liberals are determined to be moral and “clean”. Priggishness – a Teutonic vice</i></p>
<p>this is why conservatives oppose abstinence only programs and liberals support them? i think your conception is glib and superficial. explaining part of the specific answer with general frameworks, but predicting in the other direction on other specific issues, suggests that there isn&#8217;t much juice in the framework. (in fact, david haidt finds that conservatives tend to be &#8216;moralizers,&#8217; though i have no idea about the underlying primary research there either&#8230;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Difference Maker</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/07/liberals-more-politically-picky-in-mates/#comment-35191</link>
		<dc:creator>Difference Maker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 19:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We may conceive of the matter this way:  Conservatives accept human nature; liberals are determined to be moral and &quot;clean&quot;.  Priggishness - a Teutonic vice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We may conceive of the matter this way:  Conservatives accept human nature; liberals are determined to be moral and &#8220;clean&#8221;.  Priggishness &#8211; a Teutonic vice</p>
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		<title>By: Razib Khan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Razib Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 18:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reihan salam also points out (on twitter) that men are less discriminate in race, so they might be the same when it comes to politics, and males tend to be more politically conservative than females. correlation is not always transitive, but it can be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reihan salam also points out (on twitter) that men are less discriminate in race, so they might be the same when it comes to politics, and males tend to be more politically conservative than females. correlation is not always transitive, but it can be.</p>
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		<title>By: EcoPhysioMichelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>EcoPhysioMichelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 18:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;the conservatives that use these services are a lot less likely to be religious conservatives and more likely to be economic conservatives.&lt;/i&gt;

That has been my experience as well, but then again, I was using the apparently &quot;hipster&quot; OkCupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>the conservatives that use these services are a lot less likely to be religious conservatives and more likely to be economic conservatives.</i></p>
<p>That has been my experience as well, but then again, I was using the apparently &#8220;hipster&#8221; OkCupid.</p>
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		<title>By: magetoo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/07/liberals-more-politically-picky-in-mates/#comment-35188</link>
		<dc:creator>magetoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should shoot the OkCupid team an email, it would be interesting to see what you could tease out of the data if they were to let you at it.  Or at least it seems like they might be open to suggestions about what to look for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should shoot the OkCupid team an email, it would be interesting to see what you could tease out of the data if they were to let you at it.  Or at least it seems like they might be open to suggestions about what to look for.</p>
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		<title>By: mdb</title>
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		<dc:creator>mdb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 12:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone that did use these, I would have to say, the conservatives that use these services are a lot less likely to be religious conservatives and more likely to be economic conservatives. If you could get your hands on the religious and political views data, I think that could shed some light on the matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone that did use these, I would have to say, the conservatives that use these services are a lot less likely to be religious conservatives and more likely to be economic conservatives. If you could get your hands on the religious and political views data, I think that could shed some light on the matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Miguel Madeira</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/07/liberals-more-politically-picky-in-mates/#comment-35186</link>
		<dc:creator>Miguel Madeira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 11:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably left-wingers give more importance to politics than right-wingers (at least in Europe left-wingers vote more, make more demonstrations, etc., than righ-wingers), then they want as mate that can go with them to the demonstrations or to the party reunions or work with them with their radical fanzine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably left-wingers give more importance to politics than right-wingers (at least in Europe left-wingers vote more, make more demonstrations, etc., than righ-wingers), then they want as mate that can go with them to the demonstrations or to the party reunions or work with them with their radical fanzine.</p>
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		<title>By: Darkseid</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/07/liberals-more-politically-picky-in-mates/#comment-35185</link>
		<dc:creator>Darkseid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 11:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps cons are looking for some action and fellow conservatives aren&#039;t likely to oblige them in that area. &quot;waiting until marriage&quot; is not a big seller for an online profile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps cons are looking for some action and fellow conservatives aren&#8217;t likely to oblige them in that area. &#8220;waiting until marriage&#8221; is not a big seller for an online profile.</p>
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		<title>By: Maju</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/07/liberals-more-politically-picky-in-mates/#comment-35184</link>
		<dc:creator>Maju</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 09:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;i’m going to ban anyone who violates godwin’s law (and yes, you can call me fascist, but that’ll get u banned too :-) &quot;.

Fascist! Only fascists appeal to that idiocy. They fear the ugly face in the mirror.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;i’m going to ban anyone who violates godwin’s law (and yes, you can call me fascist, but that’ll get u banned too <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8220;.</p>
<p>Fascist! Only fascists appeal to that idiocy. They fear the ugly face in the mirror.</p>
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		<title>By: MWStory</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/07/liberals-more-politically-picky-in-mates/#comment-35183</link>
		<dc:creator>MWStory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 08:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OKCupid is where intelligence selection has become more pronounced, thanks to the site&#039;s unusual match question system. Rather than a standard questionnaire, OKC users have a pool of over five thousand questions to choose from and can submit new questions if they don&#039;t find ones that are useful.
When the site first started, the user submitted questions would be specific to small interest groups- &quot;do you enjoy or could you tolerate (named unusual activity)?&quot;- but as the site has grown there has been a shift towards questions which select for IQ, either obliquely by looking for IQ linked personality traits (eg in attitudes to religion) or more directly. I have seen several profiles with &quot;name the next number in the sequence&quot; questions marked &#039;mandatory&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OKCupid is where intelligence selection has become more pronounced, thanks to the site&#8217;s unusual match question system. Rather than a standard questionnaire, OKC users have a pool of over five thousand questions to choose from and can submit new questions if they don&#8217;t find ones that are useful.<br />
When the site first started, the user submitted questions would be specific to small interest groups- &#8220;do you enjoy or could you tolerate (named unusual activity)?&#8221;- but as the site has grown there has been a shift towards questions which select for IQ, either obliquely by looking for IQ linked personality traits (eg in attitudes to religion) or more directly. I have seen several profiles with &#8220;name the next number in the sequence&#8221; questions marked &#8216;mandatory&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Razib Khan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/07/liberals-more-politically-picky-in-mates/#comment-35182</link>
		<dc:creator>Razib Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 07:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m going to ban anyone who violates godwin&#039;s law (and yes, you can call me fascist, but that&#039;ll get u banned too :-).

#4, tell me if you can get the data out of match.com :-) it does sound like a suspicious sexy result....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m going to ban anyone who violates godwin&#8217;s law (and yes, you can call me fascist, but that&#8217;ll get u banned too <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>#4, tell me if you can get the data out of match.com <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  it does sound like a suspicious sexy result&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 06:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Along with openness, how much of this effect is capturing preferences relating to intelligence (as proxied by information on the site such as occupation etc)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Along with openness, how much of this effect is capturing preferences relating to intelligence (as proxied by information on the site such as occupation etc)?</p>
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		<title>By: ST</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/07/liberals-more-politically-picky-in-mates/#comment-35180</link>
		<dc:creator>ST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 05:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be interested in seeing whether &quot;moderates&quot; actually leaned in favor of other moderates or either end of the political spectrum on this standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be interested in seeing whether &#8220;moderates&#8221; actually leaned in favor of other moderates or either end of the political spectrum on this standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Razib Khan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Razib Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 04:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;(For the record I’ve not used any of these)&lt;/i&gt;

sure clark, sure.... (me thinks the latter day saint doth protest too much)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>(For the record I’ve not used any of these)</i></p>
<p>sure clark, sure&#8230;. (me thinks the latter day saint doth protest too much)</p>
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		<title>By: Clark</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/07/liberals-more-politically-picky-in-mates/#comment-35178</link>
		<dc:creator>Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 04:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought Match.com and eCupid were for hookups and eHarmony for finding an actual person you&#039;d consider marrying.  That might bias things entirely.  After all conservatives looking for a hookup might not care if someone is liberal.  Why liberals wouldn&#039;t be so accommodating is an interesting question.

(For the record I&#039;ve not used any of these)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Match.com and eCupid were for hookups and eHarmony for finding an actual person you&#8217;d consider marrying.  That might bias things entirely.  After all conservatives looking for a hookup might not care if someone is liberal.  Why liberals wouldn&#8217;t be so accommodating is an interesting question.</p>
<p>(For the record I&#8217;ve not used any of these)</p>
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