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	<title>Comments on: Around the Web &#8211; August 29th, 2011</title>
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		<title>By: Clark</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/08/around-the-web-august-29th-2011/#comment-35784</link>
		<dc:creator>Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As oil use goes up so will price. That&#039;ll have two effects. One is to make alternative technologies more cost effective (especially things like large scale solar). However the other is to make other avenues for oil accessible. Purportedly one of the largest oil fields in the world is just a few miles away on the Colorado Plateau in the Uinta basin here.  I think they said it was something like 8 times the size of Saudi Arabi&#039;s fields.  It&#039;s just that the technology to safely mine it is only now coming online.  (Previous technology used a lot of water and was overly expensive)  If oil is consistently above $100 (and assuming the federal government doesn&#039;t block access) then I think you&#039;ll see that come online quickly.

A lot of the problems with alternatives though are technological and I just don&#039;t think the general public appreciates the issues involved.  Merely throwing more money at it, as helpful as that may be, won&#039;t necessarily speed things up.  Think of say the darling of the 90&#039;s - hydrogen power. It was always a bit of a pipe dream due to the limited supply of catalysts (which is why it&#039;s really not widely available despite the hyping by the media)

Gluts can be good for consumers but short term gluts can actually make things worse.  You&#039;ll have capital invested and then have an artificial decrease in prices due to over-investment.  Instead of just having a few companies survive sometimes you just end up with skittish investors and no one investing for years.  That&#039;s less of an issue in oil development due to the size of the companies apt to develop such resources.  (They can avoid to go idle for 8 years)  However for other sorts of energy or energy transport that can be a real huge issue.  If we need the technological infrastructure for an inevitable change over a glut could be devastating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As oil use goes up so will price. That&#8217;ll have two effects. One is to make alternative technologies more cost effective (especially things like large scale solar). However the other is to make other avenues for oil accessible. Purportedly one of the largest oil fields in the world is just a few miles away on the Colorado Plateau in the Uinta basin here.  I think they said it was something like 8 times the size of Saudi Arabi&#8217;s fields.  It&#8217;s just that the technology to safely mine it is only now coming online.  (Previous technology used a lot of water and was overly expensive)  If oil is consistently above $100 (and assuming the federal government doesn&#8217;t block access) then I think you&#8217;ll see that come online quickly.</p>
<p>A lot of the problems with alternatives though are technological and I just don&#8217;t think the general public appreciates the issues involved.  Merely throwing more money at it, as helpful as that may be, won&#8217;t necessarily speed things up.  Think of say the darling of the 90&#8242;s &#8211; hydrogen power. It was always a bit of a pipe dream due to the limited supply of catalysts (which is why it&#8217;s really not widely available despite the hyping by the media)</p>
<p>Gluts can be good for consumers but short term gluts can actually make things worse.  You&#8217;ll have capital invested and then have an artificial decrease in prices due to over-investment.  Instead of just having a few companies survive sometimes you just end up with skittish investors and no one investing for years.  That&#8217;s less of an issue in oil development due to the size of the companies apt to develop such resources.  (They can avoid to go idle for 8 years)  However for other sorts of energy or energy transport that can be a real huge issue.  If we need the technological infrastructure for an inevitable change over a glut could be devastating.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandgroper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandgroper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 08:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#4, I prefer gas to either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#4, I prefer gas to either.</p>
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		<title>By: Razib Khan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/08/around-the-web-august-29th-2011/#comment-35782</link>
		<dc:creator>Razib Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 06:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#3, i prefer oil to coal. i don&#039;t think hydrocarbon demand is going to go down. the two substitute for each other in many cases. not interested in talking about that though. i reject your framing of the alternatives of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#3, i prefer oil to coal. i don&#8217;t think hydrocarbon demand is going to go down. the two substitute for each other in many cases. not interested in talking about that though. i reject your framing of the alternatives of course.</p>
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		<title>By: ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 05:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;would that there was an oil glut ...

Why?  Do you disbelieve in the science of global warming?

Not trying to be snide, just wondering. The obvious result of an oil glut in my mind is that price would go down, and much more would be used.  I&#039;m happy there&#039;s no oil glut.   It seems like to be happy about a glut, you&#039;d have to either disbelieve in climate change, or believe the results would be benign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;would that there was an oil glut &#8230;</p>
<p>Why?  Do you disbelieve in the science of global warming?</p>
<p>Not trying to be snide, just wondering. The obvious result of an oil glut in my mind is that price would go down, and much more would be used.  I&#8217;m happy there&#8217;s no oil glut.   It seems like to be happy about a glut, you&#8217;d have to either disbelieve in climate change, or believe the results would be benign.</p>
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		<title>By: ohwilleke</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2011/08/around-the-web-august-29th-2011/#comment-35780</link>
		<dc:creator>ohwilleke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 22:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Men Are From Mars, Women Like Kindles. I think we need vouchers for males to close the “Kindle gap.”&quot;

Women read books.  Men read T-shirts.

&quot;The Righteous Mind. &quot;  I worry about authors who feel compelled to let us know in a heading that the introduction gives us an overview of the book.  While this isn&#039;t always the case, this conclusion should follow without having to hit the reader over the head with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Men Are From Mars, Women Like Kindles. I think we need vouchers for males to close the “Kindle gap.”&#8221;</p>
<p>Women read books.  Men read T-shirts.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Righteous Mind. &#8221;  I worry about authors who feel compelled to let us know in a heading that the introduction gives us an overview of the book.  While this isn&#8217;t always the case, this conclusion should follow without having to hit the reader over the head with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Darkseid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darkseid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The circumcision piece is a well balanced summary. However, the mother&#039;s BMI piece reminds me that, for all those who are vehemently against circumscision, we still let fat people and religious people have kids. That seems like a much more destructive thing to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The circumcision piece is a well balanced summary. However, the mother&#8217;s BMI piece reminds me that, for all those who are vehemently against circumscision, we still let fat people and religious people have kids. That seems like a much more destructive thing to me.</p>
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