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	<title>Comments on: Hindus earn like Episcopalians, vote like Puerto Ricans</title>
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		<title>By: Sandgroper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/07/hindus-earn-like-episcopalians-vote-like-puerto-ricans/#comment-44604</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandgroper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#32 - That person&#039;s view would be of interest to me.

There&#039;s no doubt various dynamics in play, and the ethnic sub-populations vary a lot between cities. Leb gangs are very active in Sydney, but not at all in Perth, that I know of.

It just never occurred to me before that specifically anti-Hinduism might be one of the elements.

The attacker in Perth was a white guy, and they haven&#039;t caught him. In a lot of the attacks in Melbourne, they were white.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#32 &#8211; That person&#8217;s view would be of interest to me.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no doubt various dynamics in play, and the ethnic sub-populations vary a lot between cities. Leb gangs are very active in Sydney, but not at all in Perth, that I know of.</p>
<p>It just never occurred to me before that specifically anti-Hinduism might be one of the elements.</p>
<p>The attacker in Perth was a white guy, and they haven&#8217;t caught him. In a lot of the attacks in Melbourne, they were white.</p>
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		<title>By: Razib Khan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/07/hindus-earn-like-episcopalians-vote-like-puerto-ricans/#comment-44603</link>
		<dc:creator>Razib Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 06:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;but does it truly reflect the general attitude of evangelicals&lt;/i&gt;

i think vermin is too strong of a word. the major issue is that it is not uncommon for evangelical protestants to believe that hinduism is a malevolent cult. naturally hindus do not react positively to this.

&lt;i&gt; As for all other religions being inspired by demons, well, yes, Christians do believe that.&lt;/i&gt;

only a minority of american christians believe that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>but does it truly reflect the general attitude of evangelicals</i></p>
<p>i think vermin is too strong of a word. the major issue is that it is not uncommon for evangelical protestants to believe that hinduism is a malevolent cult. naturally hindus do not react positively to this.</p>
<p><i> As for all other religions being inspired by demons, well, yes, Christians do believe that.</i></p>
<p>only a minority of american christians believe that.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Bri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Bri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 06:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I apologize, Razib. Sorry about that. The term &#039;vermin&#039; riled me up. I could troll the internet and find uses of words like that, but does it truly reflect the general attitude of evangelicals?  I currently live in small town middle America, and this just doesn&#039;t ring true to me. As for all other religions being inspired by demons, well, yes, Christians do believe that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apologize, Razib. Sorry about that. The term &#8216;vermin&#8217; riled me up. I could troll the internet and find uses of words like that, but does it truly reflect the general attitude of evangelicals?  I currently live in small town middle America, and this just doesn&#8217;t ring true to me. As for all other religions being inspired by demons, well, yes, Christians do believe that.</p>
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		<title>By: Razib Khan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/07/hindus-earn-like-episcopalians-vote-like-puerto-ricans/#comment-44601</link>
		<dc:creator>Razib Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 04:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#30, i was under the impression that some of the attacks were muslim lebanese and other non-whites (this from a discussion with an indian australian at sepia mutiny).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#30, i was under the impression that some of the attacks were muslim lebanese and other non-whites (this from a discussion with an indian australian at sepia mutiny).</p>
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		<title>By: Razib Khan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/07/hindus-earn-like-episcopalians-vote-like-puerto-ricans/#comment-44600</link>
		<dc:creator>Razib Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 04:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Evangelicals dislike Catholics, and Muslims too, but that is as fellow abrahamics with a heretical interpretation of Abrahmism&lt;/i&gt;

dude, &lt;b&gt;why do you always overplay your hand with misleading crap???&lt;/b&gt; there are a small minority of evangelicals (e.g., those at bob jones) who are anti-catholic, but those are exactly the type who would reject any affinity with catholics. rather, catholicism is the &#039;whore of babylon&#039; to them. the vast majority of evangelicals are much more comfortable with catholicism than they used to be. the issue with muslims is totally different. though a moderate group of evangelicals would agree with you, and mainline protestants do, a large number now assert that the muslim god is NOT the christian god. rather, they now argue that islam is also a demonic religion. now, you do have an issue where moderate evangelicals will make a distinction between islam, abrahamic, and hinduism, pagan. but these moderates are not the ones who are vitriolic against hindus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Evangelicals dislike Catholics, and Muslims too, but that is as fellow abrahamics with a heretical interpretation of Abrahmism</i></p>
<p>dude, <b>why do you always overplay your hand with misleading crap???</b> there are a small minority of evangelicals (e.g., those at bob jones) who are anti-catholic, but those are exactly the type who would reject any affinity with catholics. rather, catholicism is the &#8216;whore of babylon&#8217; to them. the vast majority of evangelicals are much more comfortable with catholicism than they used to be. the issue with muslims is totally different. though a moderate group of evangelicals would agree with you, and mainline protestants do, a large number now assert that the muslim god is NOT the christian god. rather, they now argue that islam is also a demonic religion. now, you do have an issue where moderate evangelicals will make a distinction between islam, abrahamic, and hinduism, pagan. but these moderates are not the ones who are vitriolic against hindus.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandgroper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandgroper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 03:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rec1man - Did you pick up on the story in Australia/India, which ran for a long while but is currently quiet, that Indian students in Australia were being targeted for crime? It was of course denied by the Australian authorities, with insistence that Australia is &#039;not a racist country&#039; (manifestly untrue in my experience). The data actually demonstrated that Indians were being targeted disproportionately. The interpretation applied was that Indian students tend to be relatively affluent/have all the latest cool gadgets which they display ostentatiously, which makes them a target.

The official line is not credible. Two Indian students were attacked close to my daughter&#039;s university last year: one girl was stabbed in the back while walking home, and a young male was beaten unconscious and dumped in the river. Fortunately both survived. In both cases there was no theft, and no apparent motive. At least in the case of the girl, I know she was not visibly affluent - she was working part time as a supermarket check-out girl to support herself during her studies. In both cases the attacker was &#039;a blonde Caucasian male&#039;.

I had been thinking racist attacks (I also wondered if they had been mistaken for Muslims), but I am now wondering if the targeting is at least partly religiously motivated. I had not realised the strength of the anti-Hindu thing among evangelical Christians.

Taking rather a long time to get to the point - do you have insight into these occurrences in Australia, and do you think they are/could be religion-inspired? It is something that has not occurred to me before, and no mention of it has been made in the media, but that does not necessarily mean anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rec1man &#8211; Did you pick up on the story in Australia/India, which ran for a long while but is currently quiet, that Indian students in Australia were being targeted for crime? It was of course denied by the Australian authorities, with insistence that Australia is &#8216;not a racist country&#8217; (manifestly untrue in my experience). The data actually demonstrated that Indians were being targeted disproportionately. The interpretation applied was that Indian students tend to be relatively affluent/have all the latest cool gadgets which they display ostentatiously, which makes them a target.</p>
<p>The official line is not credible. Two Indian students were attacked close to my daughter&#8217;s university last year: one girl was stabbed in the back while walking home, and a young male was beaten unconscious and dumped in the river. Fortunately both survived. In both cases there was no theft, and no apparent motive. At least in the case of the girl, I know she was not visibly affluent &#8211; she was working part time as a supermarket check-out girl to support herself during her studies. In both cases the attacker was &#8216;a blonde Caucasian male&#8217;.</p>
<p>I had been thinking racist attacks (I also wondered if they had been mistaken for Muslims), but I am now wondering if the targeting is at least partly religiously motivated. I had not realised the strength of the anti-Hindu thing among evangelical Christians.</p>
<p>Taking rather a long time to get to the point &#8211; do you have insight into these occurrences in Australia, and do you think they are/could be religion-inspired? It is something that has not occurred to me before, and no mention of it has been made in the media, but that does not necessarily mean anything.</p>
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		<title>By: rec1man</title>
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		<dc:creator>rec1man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 02:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom Bri, I dont think that the Republican Party is racist to Indians as a race.  In fact, Nikki Haley and Bobby Jindal do make it clear, that Indians can go far in the GOP, but only as converted christians and not as Sikhs or Hindus. And most Indians are not willing to convert

And Indians do get victimised by NAM criminals , when they run 7-11 or drive a taxi and in daily life, this is much more than fringe white groups like KKK

Evangelicals dislike Catholics, and Muslims too, but that is as fellow abrahamics with a heretical interpretation of Abrahmism

For Evangelicals, Hindus are anti-Abrahamists, and unlike Europe, where the pagans were exterminated, and belong to history, Hindus are alive and thriving in the USA, in fact as successful as the Jews. This causes a lot of cognitive dissonance and discomfort to the Evangelicals.  Most democrats on the other hand are nominal christians, and ignore a lot of this stuff

A literal reading of the bible will show huge similarities between Hinduism and the religion of Philistines, Canaanites, Greeks, Romans , Celts , and other pre-christian religions that have been the adversary of the Christian Church</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Bri, I dont think that the Republican Party is racist to Indians as a race.  In fact, Nikki Haley and Bobby Jindal do make it clear, that Indians can go far in the GOP, but only as converted christians and not as Sikhs or Hindus. And most Indians are not willing to convert</p>
<p>And Indians do get victimised by NAM criminals , when they run 7-11 or drive a taxi and in daily life, this is much more than fringe white groups like KKK</p>
<p>Evangelicals dislike Catholics, and Muslims too, but that is as fellow abrahamics with a heretical interpretation of Abrahmism</p>
<p>For Evangelicals, Hindus are anti-Abrahamists, and unlike Europe, where the pagans were exterminated, and belong to history, Hindus are alive and thriving in the USA, in fact as successful as the Jews. This causes a lot of cognitive dissonance and discomfort to the Evangelicals.  Most democrats on the other hand are nominal christians, and ignore a lot of this stuff</p>
<p>A literal reading of the bible will show huge similarities between Hinduism and the religion of Philistines, Canaanites, Greeks, Romans , Celts , and other pre-christian religions that have been the adversary of the Christian Church</p>
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		<title>By: Razib Khan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/07/hindus-earn-like-episcopalians-vote-like-puerto-ricans/#comment-44597</link>
		<dc:creator>Razib Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 01:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#27, your comment brings up specious points. stop it. rec1man is alluding to a real thread in modern american evangelicalism where &lt;b&gt;particular religions are perceived to be the extension of satan and demons in this world.&lt;/b&gt;  that&#039;s what motivates their animus. in the late 1980s pat robertson did a whole special on how modern hinduism descends from babylonian paganism, and reflects demonic values. more specifically, a substantial number of evangelicals hold to older christian views where aside from judaism all non-christian religions are inspired or directly led by demons under the command of satan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#27, your comment brings up specious points. stop it. rec1man is alluding to a real thread in modern american evangelicalism where <b>particular religions are perceived to be the extension of satan and demons in this world.</b>  that&#8217;s what motivates their animus. in the late 1980s pat robertson did a whole special on how modern hinduism descends from babylonian paganism, and reflects demonic values. more specifically, a substantial number of evangelicals hold to older christian views where aside from judaism all non-christian religions are inspired or directly led by demons under the command of satan.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Bri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Bri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 00:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vermin? Evangelical Christians consider Hindus Pagans, but I doubt either the word or the feeling vermin comes into their heads. Seriously. Get out and meet a few people.
And remember, it was the Democratic Mayor of DC who referred to Asian shop keepers as dirty, and stated he wanted them ran out of their businesses and replaced by Blacks. There is plenty of racism to go around, and for me, definitely not on the left but not Republican either, it looks fairly well distributed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vermin? Evangelical Christians consider Hindus Pagans, but I doubt either the word or the feeling vermin comes into their heads. Seriously. Get out and meet a few people.<br />
And remember, it was the Democratic Mayor of DC who referred to Asian shop keepers as dirty, and stated he wanted them ran out of their businesses and replaced by Blacks. There is plenty of racism to go around, and for me, definitely not on the left but not Republican either, it looks fairly well distributed.</p>
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		<title>By: rec1man</title>
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		<dc:creator>rec1man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 00:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jim R, Hindus dont mind voting for social conservatives or economic conservatives or even White Nationalists like BNP-UK

But they need to leave religion out of it and not demand that we convert

The Conservatives in Canada, dont have 50% of their members who demand that Hindus be converted to Christianity, and thats the big difference with the Republicans.  Conservatives in Canada will canvass for Sikh votes and attend Sikh functions for fund raising and no  Conservative in Canada will make an issue of the Sikh religion as Nikki Haley was attacked for her Sikh origin

In the USA, no republican will attend a Hindu function for fund raising, or canvassing, whereas most Democratic politicians will happily attend Hindu functions and canvass Hindus

The Republicans dont even want Hindu votes or Hindu $
Republicans do want Indian votes and Indian $, only as long as any reference to any non-Christian religion is carefully hidden away</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jim R, Hindus dont mind voting for social conservatives or economic conservatives or even White Nationalists like BNP-UK</p>
<p>But they need to leave religion out of it and not demand that we convert</p>
<p>The Conservatives in Canada, dont have 50% of their members who demand that Hindus be converted to Christianity, and thats the big difference with the Republicans.  Conservatives in Canada will canvass for Sikh votes and attend Sikh functions for fund raising and no  Conservative in Canada will make an issue of the Sikh religion as Nikki Haley was attacked for her Sikh origin</p>
<p>In the USA, no republican will attend a Hindu function for fund raising, or canvassing, whereas most Democratic politicians will happily attend Hindu functions and canvass Hindus</p>
<p>The Republicans dont even want Hindu votes or Hindu $<br />
Republicans do want Indian votes and Indian $, only as long as any reference to any non-Christian religion is carefully hidden away</p>
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		<title>By: JimR</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2012 20:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting to contrast to Canada, where roughly 30-35 percent of hindus or sikhs in English speaking Canada vote for Conservatives (I would guess usually 15pct less than the white population in the same area, or 15 pct less than the local east asian population in BC). This is a recent development and it has helped Conservatives win constituencies that would have been very difficult to win 10 years ago. From people who I know in my personal life I would suggest that the attitudes of white and south asian parents aren&#039;t as different as rec1man says, although there is some difference, seems to me kind of like how catholic parents might have felt 30 years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting to contrast to Canada, where roughly 30-35 percent of hindus or sikhs in English speaking Canada vote for Conservatives (I would guess usually 15pct less than the white population in the same area, or 15 pct less than the local east asian population in BC). This is a recent development and it has helped Conservatives win constituencies that would have been very difficult to win 10 years ago. From people who I know in my personal life I would suggest that the attitudes of white and south asian parents aren&#8217;t as different as rec1man says, although there is some difference, seems to me kind of like how catholic parents might have felt 30 years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Vijay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vijay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 21:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somebody already wrote this in 2008 when you last broached this subject; My variation of Gelman&#039;s supposition is that it is among higher &quot;Caste&quot;  groups that the Hindu cultural identity markers are particular relevant; if more OBC and SC groups were to migrate, then republican affiliation may actually increase!
alternate supposition: Darker the skin tone, stronger the democratic self-affiliation; also explains the slighter dislike of hispanics and east asians to republicans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody already wrote this in 2008 when you last broached this subject; My variation of Gelman&#8217;s supposition is that it is among higher &#8220;Caste&#8221;  groups that the Hindu cultural identity markers are particular relevant; if more OBC and SC groups were to migrate, then republican affiliation may actually increase!<br />
alternate supposition: Darker the skin tone, stronger the democratic self-affiliation; also explains the slighter dislike of hispanics and east asians to republicans.</p>
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		<title>By: rec1man</title>
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		<dc:creator>rec1man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the correction, so why would Hindu Americans vote for a party that consists of 50% of people who consider Hindus as vermin, and need to be converted.

The Hindu vote for Republicans is like the Indian muslim vote for BJP.  There are certain niche segments that might vote that way, but the majority will solidly vote against

The HBD people think that Hindu Americans ought to vote Republican, based on education and wealth,  and perhaps the Republicans need to tweak their message to Hindu Americans.  They dont consider the much bigger  hostile element of Evangelicals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the correction, so why would Hindu Americans vote for a party that consists of 50% of people who consider Hindus as vermin, and need to be converted.</p>
<p>The Hindu vote for Republicans is like the Indian muslim vote for BJP.  There are certain niche segments that might vote that way, but the majority will solidly vote against</p>
<p>The HBD people think that Hindu Americans ought to vote Republican, based on education and wealth,  and perhaps the Republicans need to tweak their message to Hindu Americans.  They dont consider the much bigger  hostile element of Evangelicals.</p>
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		<title>By: Razib Khan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Razib Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 06:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Evangelical christians are about 25% of the Republican vote&lt;/i&gt;

i think it&#039;s closer to 50% now. facts are your friends. work on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Evangelical christians are about 25% of the Republican vote</i></p>
<p>i think it&#8217;s closer to 50% now. facts are your friends. work on that.</p>
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		<title>By: rec1man</title>
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		<dc:creator>rec1man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 06:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evangelical christians are about 25% of the Republican vote
Evangelical christians are respectful to Jews. But from a very fundamental religious motive, Evangelical christians view Hindus as vermin that need to be converted.  Several Republican politicians actually run christian conversion campaigns in India, trying to convert Hindus.
 Until this changes Republicans cant get the Hindu vote

Hindus can vote for white Nationalists, but not for evangelicals.  Nick Griffin of UK-BNP, gets a fair number of Hindu , Sikh supporters.  In daily life, Hindu 7-11 owners get robbed by blacks.  Hindu families have a very negative view of blacks

Regarding conservative or liberal labels
Compared to whites, Hindus do not tolerate in their kids,  pre-marital sex, gay, drugs, drinking, poor academic performance in school.  On the other hand, they dont care if their white neighbor is gay or has unwed babies</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evangelical christians are about 25% of the Republican vote<br />
Evangelical christians are respectful to Jews. But from a very fundamental religious motive, Evangelical christians view Hindus as vermin that need to be converted.  Several Republican politicians actually run christian conversion campaigns in India, trying to convert Hindus.<br />
 Until this changes Republicans cant get the Hindu vote</p>
<p>Hindus can vote for white Nationalists, but not for evangelicals.  Nick Griffin of UK-BNP, gets a fair number of Hindu , Sikh supporters.  In daily life, Hindu 7-11 owners get robbed by blacks.  Hindu families have a very negative view of blacks</p>
<p>Regarding conservative or liberal labels<br />
Compared to whites, Hindus do not tolerate in their kids,  pre-marital sex, gay, drugs, drinking, poor academic performance in school.  On the other hand, they dont care if their white neighbor is gay or has unwed babies</p>
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		<title>By: Razib Khan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/07/hindus-earn-like-episcopalians-vote-like-puerto-ricans/#comment-44589</link>
		<dc:creator>Razib Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 05:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; unwed pregnancies, welfare, crime, affirmative action quotas, NAMs, Terrorism, Hindu Americans &lt;b&gt;are more conservative&lt;/b&gt; than most Republicans&lt;/i&gt;

the pew survey has data. 34 percent of hindus identify as liberal, 14 percent as conservative. additionally, hindus are about as tolerant of homosexuals as the general public (so they are more conservative than you might expect on this issue based on their voting), and more pro-choice. so the idea that hindus are conservatives who are repelled by identity politics may not be right, but it may not be easy to disentangle the causality (there is social science that particular views emerge AFTER identification with a political bloc).

though i think your general model here is probably true. hindus feel existential threat from republicans because of the evangelical drive to convert them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> unwed pregnancies, welfare, crime, affirmative action quotas, NAMs, Terrorism, Hindu Americans <b>are more conservative</b> than most Republicans</i></p>
<p>the pew survey has data. 34 percent of hindus identify as liberal, 14 percent as conservative. additionally, hindus are about as tolerant of homosexuals as the general public (so they are more conservative than you might expect on this issue based on their voting), and more pro-choice. so the idea that hindus are conservatives who are repelled by identity politics may not be right, but it may not be easy to disentangle the causality (there is social science that particular views emerge AFTER identification with a political bloc).</p>
<p>though i think your general model here is probably true. hindus feel existential threat from republicans because of the evangelical drive to convert them.</p>
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		<title>By: rec1man</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/07/hindus-earn-like-episcopalians-vote-like-puerto-ricans/#comment-44588</link>
		<dc:creator>rec1man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 05:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Duke of Qin, the Republican Party, welcomes Indians as long as they convert to christianity, such as Nikki Haley and Bobby Jindal.
Apostates like Nikki Haley or Bobby Jindal are not liked by Hindu Americans

Where there is doubt as to the genuineness of the conversion, as in the case of Nikki Haley, a very sizeable minority of Republicans is hostile

In terms of unwed pregnancies, welfare, crime, affirmative action quotas, NAMs, Terrorism, Hindu Americans are more conservative than most Republicans, but we can live with the Democrats, since the Democrats dont want us converted

Republicans will never attend a Hindu temple or Hindu function to canvass for donations or votes, whereas nominally christian Democrats often show up at Hindu temples or Hindu functions to canvass for donations and votes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Duke of Qin, the Republican Party, welcomes Indians as long as they convert to christianity, such as Nikki Haley and Bobby Jindal.<br />
Apostates like Nikki Haley or Bobby Jindal are not liked by Hindu Americans</p>
<p>Where there is doubt as to the genuineness of the conversion, as in the case of Nikki Haley, a very sizeable minority of Republicans is hostile</p>
<p>In terms of unwed pregnancies, welfare, crime, affirmative action quotas, NAMs, Terrorism, Hindu Americans are more conservative than most Republicans, but we can live with the Democrats, since the Democrats dont want us converted</p>
<p>Republicans will never attend a Hindu temple or Hindu function to canvass for donations or votes, whereas nominally christian Democrats often show up at Hindu temples or Hindu functions to canvass for donations and votes</p>
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		<title>By: Duke of Qin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/07/hindus-earn-like-episcopalians-vote-like-puerto-ricans/#comment-44587</link>
		<dc:creator>Duke of Qin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 04:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mainstream Republican party is not in the least bit &quot;racist&quot; against non-whites. In fact, quite the opposite, it goes to extreme ends cultivating it&#039;s minority members and appeases Democratic race attacks with full kow-tows. Why else would a party spend much effort to cultivate a mostly apathetic Hispanic electorate who&#039;s economic interests more closely align with redistributionist Democrats?

The Democratic Party today is that it is a political chimera of wildly variant interests groups both social, cultural, and racial that mirrors the social and demographic disintegration of America itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mainstream Republican party is not in the least bit &#8220;racist&#8221; against non-whites. In fact, quite the opposite, it goes to extreme ends cultivating it&#8217;s minority members and appeases Democratic race attacks with full kow-tows. Why else would a party spend much effort to cultivate a mostly apathetic Hispanic electorate who&#8217;s economic interests more closely align with redistributionist Democrats?</p>
<p>The Democratic Party today is that it is a political chimera of wildly variant interests groups both social, cultural, and racial that mirrors the social and demographic disintegration of America itself.</p>
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		<title>By: rec1man</title>
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		<dc:creator>rec1man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 01:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nikki Haley has been attacked by Republican leaders as a closet Sikh

&#039;Beshear, who is heavily favored to win re-election this November, is taking heat from his Republican opponent for participating in a Hindu &quot;ground blessing&quot; ceremony last weekend at a groundbreaking for a new Indian-owned Elizabethtown factory. Here&#039;s how Republican Senate president and gubernatorial nominee David Williams put it:

He&#039;s there participating with Hindu priests, participating in a religious ceremony. They can say what they want to. He&#039;s sitting down there with his legs crossed, participating in Hindu prayers with a dot on his forehead with incense burning around him. I don&#039;t know what the man was thinking...&#039;

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Sen. Satveer Chaudhary, a practicing Hindu, was re-elected in District 50 last week. Rather than call, his Christian opponent, Republican Rae Hart Anderson offered him an e-mail concession that he said read more like a sermon. The following is the text of that e-mail message. - The race of your life is more important than this one--and it is my sincere wish that you&#039;ll get to know Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior
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Derogatory comments made by a Republican state Assembly candidate in Iowa about her opponent&#039;s Indian heritage may have backfired on election day, as Indian American Swati Dandekar swept to an easier victory than expected Nov. 5 for the 36th district seat in the Iowa state legislature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nikki Haley has been attacked by Republican leaders as a closet Sikh</p>
<p>&#8216;Beshear, who is heavily favored to win re-election this November, is taking heat from his Republican opponent for participating in a Hindu &#8220;ground blessing&#8221; ceremony last weekend at a groundbreaking for a new Indian-owned Elizabethtown factory. Here&#8217;s how Republican Senate president and gubernatorial nominee David Williams put it:</p>
<p>He&#8217;s there participating with Hindu priests, participating in a religious ceremony. They can say what they want to. He&#8217;s sitting down there with his legs crossed, participating in Hindu prayers with a dot on his forehead with incense burning around him. I don&#8217;t know what the man was thinking&#8230;&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8211;<br />
Sen. Satveer Chaudhary, a practicing Hindu, was re-elected in District 50 last week. Rather than call, his Christian opponent, Republican Rae Hart Anderson offered him an e-mail concession that he said read more like a sermon. The following is the text of that e-mail message. &#8211; The race of your life is more important than this one&#8211;and it is my sincere wish that you&#8217;ll get to know Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior<br />
&#8211;</p>
<p>Derogatory comments made by a Republican state Assembly candidate in Iowa about her opponent&#8217;s Indian heritage may have backfired on election day, as Indian American Swati Dandekar swept to an easier victory than expected Nov. 5 for the 36th district seat in the Iowa state legislature.</p>
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		<title>By: ohwilleke</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/07/hindus-earn-like-episcopalians-vote-like-puerto-ricans/#comment-44585</link>
		<dc:creator>ohwilleke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2012 20:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Republican party is for all practical purposes the white Christian party, but the minority of Asian Americans who are conservative Protestants are quite congenial to the Republicans.&quot;

The comfort level is fading.

My Korean born, suburban, fervantly anti-communist, affluent M.D., life long country club member inlaws, who are currently members of congregation of the predominantly white Pentecostal Assemblies of God religious denomination (who have long been naturalized citizens), spent all of the adult lives as naturalized citizens as yellow dog Republicans in New York State.  But, they waivered right down to the line in 2008, and they are leaning Democratic in 2012 (notwithstanding the fact that both McCain and Romney are moderates within the GOP).

The GOP has become an uncomfortable place for non-white people with an accent, even for conservative evangelical Christians.  Religious and anticommunist commitments are increasingly failing to bridge the race and xenophobia gap.  Also, the cultural gap between country club Republicans with Yankee leanings and blue collar Tea Party Republicans with Dixie leanings has never been wider.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Republican party is for all practical purposes the white Christian party, but the minority of Asian Americans who are conservative Protestants are quite congenial to the Republicans.&#8221;</p>
<p>The comfort level is fading.</p>
<p>My Korean born, suburban, fervantly anti-communist, affluent M.D., life long country club member inlaws, who are currently members of congregation of the predominantly white Pentecostal Assemblies of God religious denomination (who have long been naturalized citizens), spent all of the adult lives as naturalized citizens as yellow dog Republicans in New York State.  But, they waivered right down to the line in 2008, and they are leaning Democratic in 2012 (notwithstanding the fact that both McCain and Romney are moderates within the GOP).</p>
<p>The GOP has become an uncomfortable place for non-white people with an accent, even for conservative evangelical Christians.  Religious and anticommunist commitments are increasingly failing to bridge the race and xenophobia gap.  Also, the cultural gap between country club Republicans with Yankee leanings and blue collar Tea Party Republicans with Dixie leanings has never been wider.</p>
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