Comments on: The ecstasy and agony of prenatal information http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/09/the-ecstasy-and-agony-of-prenatal-information/ Mon, 20 May 2013 04:19:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Sandgroper http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/09/the-ecstasy-and-agony-of-prenatal-information/#comment-46614 Sandgroper Tue, 18 Sep 2012 07:12:37 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/?p=18353#comment-46614 @10 Better! Not to mention Sandy Lam's adorable epicanthic folds :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcDjTjXC7hY @10 Better!

Not to mention Sandy Lam’s adorable epicanthic folds :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcDjTjXC7hY

]]> By: Charles Nydorf http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/09/the-ecstasy-and-agony-of-prenatal-information/#comment-46613 Charles Nydorf Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:55:23 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/?p=18353#comment-46613 The atmosphere of angst is a legacy of traditional (pre-genomic) genetic medicine which took a dark and secretive view of things. The atmosphere of angst is a legacy of traditional (pre-genomic) genetic medicine which took a dark and secretive view of things.

]]> By: pconroy http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/09/the-ecstasy-and-agony-of-prenatal-information/#comment-46612 pconroy Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:07:44 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/?p=18353#comment-46612 @9, Make that "one more thing" ;) @9,

Make that “one more thing” ;)

]]> By: Sandgroper http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/09/the-ecstasy-and-agony-of-prenatal-information/#comment-46611 Sandgroper Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:24:05 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/?p=18353#comment-46611 @8 LOL! Only one? I married one, remember :) Yes, definitely, the more information the better - I couldn't agree more. @8 LOL! Only one? I married one, remember :)

Yes, definitely, the more information the better – I couldn’t agree more.

]]> By: pconroy http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/09/the-ecstasy-and-agony-of-prenatal-information/#comment-46610 pconroy Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:01:07 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/?p=18353#comment-46610 @ 7 Sandgroper, Yeah, that one thing to love about the Chinese - they are generally a pragmatic people, as am I. For me the more info the better, even if it's potentially bad news - such as I recently found out that I have an almost double chance of developing Alzheimer's Disease (AD)... @ 7 Sandgroper,

Yeah, that one thing to love about the Chinese – they are generally a pragmatic people, as am I.

For me the more info the better, even if it’s potentially bad news – such as I recently found out that I have an almost double chance of developing Alzheimer’s Disease (AD)…

]]> By: Sandgroper http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/09/the-ecstasy-and-agony-of-prenatal-information/#comment-46609 Sandgroper Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:39:47 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/?p=18353#comment-46609 @6: Hong Kong. @6: Hong Kong.

]]> By: RedZenGenoist http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/09/the-ecstasy-and-agony-of-prenatal-information/#comment-46608 RedZenGenoist Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:17:15 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/?p=18353#comment-46608 @5: Here = where? @5: Here = where?

]]> By: Sandgroper http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/09/the-ecstasy-and-agony-of-prenatal-information/#comment-46607 Sandgroper Mon, 17 Sep 2012 10:09:09 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/?p=18353#comment-46607 Side note - one of the universities here has begun foetal genotyping. The response, such as it is, seems to have been "Oh great - progress. Isn't science wonderful?" Different folks, different strokes. Side note – one of the universities here has begun foetal genotyping. The response, such as it is, seems to have been “Oh great – progress. Isn’t science wonderful?” Different folks, different strokes.

]]> By: Razib Khan http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/09/the-ecstasy-and-agony-of-prenatal-information/#comment-46606 Razib Khan Mon, 17 Sep 2012 06:25:28 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/?p=18353#comment-46606 #3, i favor free screening. i would also personally support the state paying for abortion, but that is basically not going to happen in the USA because too many people oppose abortion on moral grounds. i have democratic enough qualms to worry about subsidies to actions/activities which a substantial proportion of subsidizers object to. thought that doesn't seem to stop our international adventures ;-) #3, i favor free screening. i would also personally support the state paying for abortion, but that is basically not going to happen in the USA because too many people oppose abortion on moral grounds. i have democratic enough qualms to worry about subsidies to actions/activities which a substantial proportion of subsidizers object to. thought that doesn’t seem to stop our international adventures ;-)

]]> By: RedZenGenoist http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/09/the-ecstasy-and-agony-of-prenatal-information/#comment-46605 RedZenGenoist Mon, 17 Sep 2012 05:54:42 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/?p=18353#comment-46605 To the extent that Denmark is a nation, yeah. http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-11/bmj-nsh112608.php https://www.google.com/search?q=trisomy+screening+denmark Some other countries in the region have programs approaching this, but less strong. You can see by the stats that the change in framework (government help, government sanction) massively changes the choices primates make. Primates do whatever authority says is ok, and sanction of choice by authority is implicit here, by them giving you one. As a dad and taxpayer, what do you think? To the extent that Denmark is a nation, yeah.
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-11/bmj-nsh112608.php
https://www.google.com/search?q=trisomy+screening+denmark

Some other countries in the region have programs approaching this, but less strong.

You can see by the stats that the change in framework (government help, government sanction) massively changes the choices primates make. Primates do whatever authority says is ok, and sanction of choice by authority is implicit here, by them giving you one.

As a dad and taxpayer, what do you think?

]]> By: Razib Khan http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/09/the-ecstasy-and-agony-of-prenatal-information/#comment-46604 Razib Khan Mon, 17 Sep 2012 05:18:46 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/?p=18353#comment-46604 which states??? you mean nations? which states??? you mean nations?

]]> By: RedZenGenoist http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/09/the-ecstasy-and-agony-of-prenatal-information/#comment-46603 RedZenGenoist Mon, 17 Sep 2012 05:12:58 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/?p=18353#comment-46603 Congrats on your sanity and compassion for your own offspring, Razib. (not being sarcastic) Did you know that some states offer free trisomy tests to all pregnant women, and offer free abortions if you test positive, resulting in large, consistent, progressive drops in fx. Downs, despite the inevitable climb in maternal age? What do you think of that, as tax dollars go? Congrats on your sanity and compassion for your own offspring, Razib.
(not being sarcastic)

Did you know that some states offer free trisomy tests to all pregnant women, and offer free abortions if you test positive, resulting in large, consistent, progressive drops in fx. Downs, despite the inevitable climb in maternal age? What do you think of that, as tax dollars go?

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