Comments on: I Made an Error. I Now Correct It. http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2009/04/08/i-made-an-error-i-now-correct-it/ Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:28:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Mea culpa: I trusted George Will and Washington Post fact checking http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2009/04/08/i-made-an-error-i-now-correct-it/#comment-16077 Mea culpa: I trusted George Will and Washington Post fact checking Thu, 09 Apr 2009 20:48:02 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2009/04/08/i-made-an-error-i-now-correct-it/#comment-16077 [...] Mooney, The Intersection, Discover, I Made an Error. I Now Correct It. it turns out that a lot of us got so wrapped up in debunking George Will’s serious errors about [...] [...] Mooney, The Intersection, Discover, I Made an Error. I Now Correct It. it turns out that a lot of us got so wrapped up in debunking George Will’s serious errors about [...]

]]> By: Dark tent http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2009/04/08/i-made-an-error-i-now-correct-it/#comment-16076 Dark tent Thu, 09 Apr 2009 00:31:12 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2009/04/08/i-made-an-error-i-now-correct-it/#comment-16076 What, no "Arctic Climate Research Center"? You should resign Chris (from whatever organization it is you work for, and if you work for yourself, you should quit that too) before you do any more damage. Next thing we know you'll be telling all the little kids who surf the web that "there's no Santa Claus -- not according to the records of the <i>Arctic Climate Research Center</i> at U of Illinois, at least". What, no “Arctic Climate Research Center”?

You should resign Chris (from whatever organization it is you work for, and if you work for yourself, you should quit that too) before you do any more damage.

Next thing we know you’ll be telling all the little kids who surf the web that “there’s no Santa Claus — not according to the records of the Arctic Climate Research Center at U of Illinois, at least”.

]]> By: Trent1492 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2009/04/08/i-made-an-error-i-now-correct-it/#comment-16075 Trent1492 Wed, 08 Apr 2009 22:00:18 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2009/04/08/i-made-an-error-i-now-correct-it/#comment-16075 @ Michael, So what would the evidence look like that would convince you? Now note, I am not looking for all the reasons you disbelieve, but for what would <i>convince</i> you. @ Michael,

So what would the evidence look like that would convince you? Now note, I am not looking for all the reasons you disbelieve, but for what would convince you.

]]> By: Michael http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2009/04/08/i-made-an-error-i-now-correct-it/#comment-16074 Michael Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:51:07 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2009/04/08/i-made-an-error-i-now-correct-it/#comment-16074 I'll add a postscript here. I don't use any informatiom from places like the Heartland Institute, for example. That organization has a blatant political/religious agenda that perverts the science to suit it's own needs. It has at least some tacit support from/for the ID creationists total pseudo-science balderdash, and is disqualified in my book from serious scientific inquiry. Sadly, there are hundreds of organizations that are using the climate change issue to promote their own political or religious agendas. This ultimately sours the public on science and is destructive to critical and skeptical thinking. I’ll add a postscript here. I don’t use any informatiom from places like the Heartland Institute, for example. That organization has a blatant political/religious agenda that perverts the science to suit it’s own needs. It has at least some tacit support from/for the ID creationists total pseudo-science balderdash, and is disqualified in my book from serious scientific inquiry. Sadly, there are hundreds of organizations that are using the climate change issue to promote their own political or religious agendas. This ultimately sours the public on science and is destructive to critical and skeptical thinking.

]]> By: Michael http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2009/04/08/i-made-an-error-i-now-correct-it/#comment-16073 Michael Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:41:35 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2009/04/08/i-made-an-error-i-now-correct-it/#comment-16073 Will is a political pundant and baseball historian, not a climate expert or scientist. I take his views on those subjects with a huge dose of skeptical salt. Jon, your attack is blatant ad hominem, as you have no real idea about what kind of person I am. I am a free thinker, and have no political or philosophical dogmatic views. George Will can make some valid points on politics sometimes, but a climate expert he isn't. As is not Albert Gore, for example. I refuse to allow any pundant or politician to affect my scientific opinions and views. In addition, concensus should never be the basis for valid science. The 'facts' on climate change are far more complex than most people realize, and some individual research is warranted. Personally, I believe we are in a significant cooling trend which will last perhaps 20-30 years, or even more. This trend is caused by megafactors, and not by microfactors like the percent of CO2 that may be current in the atmosphere. Unfortunately this issue has been politicized to the point of absurdity, and I see otherwise rational people taking a side based on their own political views while mis-interpreting or ignoring the science. George Will has done this, unfortunately. That's why I avoid any hint of political posture when trying to determine the validity of the conflicting climate change positions. Will is a political pundant and baseball historian, not a climate expert or scientist. I take his views on those subjects with a huge dose of skeptical salt. Jon, your attack is blatant ad hominem, as you have no real idea about what kind of person I am. I am a free thinker, and have no political or philosophical dogmatic views. George Will can make some valid points on politics sometimes, but a climate expert he isn’t. As is not Albert Gore, for example. I refuse to allow any pundant or politician to affect my scientific opinions and views. In addition, concensus should never be the basis for valid science. The ‘facts’ on climate change are far more complex than most people realize, and some individual research is warranted.

Personally, I believe we are in a significant cooling trend which will last perhaps 20-30 years, or even more. This trend is caused by megafactors, and not by microfactors like the percent of CO2 that may be current in the atmosphere. Unfortunately this issue has been politicized to the point of absurdity, and I see otherwise rational people taking a side based on their own political views while mis-interpreting or ignoring the science. George Will has done this, unfortunately. That’s why I avoid any hint of political posture when trying to determine the validity of the conflicting climate change positions.

]]> By: Jon Winsor http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2009/04/08/i-made-an-error-i-now-correct-it/#comment-16072 Jon Winsor Wed, 08 Apr 2009 14:01:13 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2009/04/08/i-made-an-error-i-now-correct-it/#comment-16072 Michael, we seem to always hear the same vague, non-specific accusations from people like yourself. You would think, if you're depicting yourselves as the level-headed people in the discussion, that you'd at least take care to get the basic stuff right. This mistake that Chris is apologizing for was originally the fault of Michael Asher and George Will. How seriously can we take Will and his sources if his column is <a href="http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/04/07/will-fake-center/" rel="nofollow">this riddled with basic and sloppy mistakes</a>? Michael, we seem to always hear the same vague, non-specific accusations from people like yourself.

You would think, if you’re depicting yourselves as the level-headed people in the discussion, that you’d at least take care to get the basic stuff right. This mistake that Chris is apologizing for was originally the fault of Michael Asher and George Will.

How seriously can we take Will and his sources if his column is this riddled with basic and sloppy mistakes?

]]> By: Michael http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2009/04/08/i-made-an-error-i-now-correct-it/#comment-16071 Michael Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:18:57 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2009/04/08/i-made-an-error-i-now-correct-it/#comment-16071 Thank you, Ahcuah, for perfectly describing the global warming alarmists. Thank you, Ahcuah, for perfectly describing the global warming alarmists.

]]> By: Ahcuah http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2009/04/08/i-made-an-error-i-now-correct-it/#comment-16070 Ahcuah Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:48:36 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2009/04/08/i-made-an-error-i-now-correct-it/#comment-16070 How dare you promptly correct it? Don't you know that the official George Will-approved way is to just keep repeating it over and over, with fingers in ears while singing la-la-la? How dare you promptly correct it?

Don’t you know that the official George Will-approved way is to just keep repeating it over and over, with fingers in ears while singing la-la-la?

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