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	<title>Comments on: Pap Smears “of mainly historical interest&#8220;</title>
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		<title>By: MadScientist</title>
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		<dc:creator>MadScientist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 12:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt the smears will ever become only of historical interest; they are far simpler and don&#039;t really require terribly expensive equipment.  Even in the &#039;first world&#039;, unless the DNA test becomes cheap and widely available, the ol&#039; smear test will persist.  Personally I&#039;d still advocate that histologists/pathologists learn about the test because you really don&#039;t want someone taking up a lab job and going &quot;oh no, I can&#039;t do this test because I don&#039;t have the magic DNA analyzer&quot;.

On the other hand, I couldn&#039;t imagine the Omega navigational system being shut down (how do submarines navigate without it), but Omega is long gone, airplanes and ships use GPS, and submarines - well, they still get along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt the smears will ever become only of historical interest; they are far simpler and don&#8217;t really require terribly expensive equipment.  Even in the &#8216;first world&#8217;, unless the DNA test becomes cheap and widely available, the ol&#8217; smear test will persist.  Personally I&#8217;d still advocate that histologists/pathologists learn about the test because you really don&#8217;t want someone taking up a lab job and going &#8220;oh no, I can&#8217;t do this test because I don&#8217;t have the magic DNA analyzer&#8221;.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I couldn&#8217;t imagine the Omega navigational system being shut down (how do submarines navigate without it), but Omega is long gone, airplanes and ships use GPS, and submarines &#8211; well, they still get along.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Dick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Dick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 03:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From reading the article, it looks like it&#039;s mostly of use in the developed world, as it is quite cheap (article says $5 per test), where people aren&#039;t likely to get pap smears regularly.  In that situation, the test prevented about 1/3rd more deaths than those that got pap smears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From reading the article, it looks like it&#8217;s mostly of use in the developed world, as it is quite cheap (article says $5 per test), where people aren&#8217;t likely to get pap smears regularly.  In that situation, the test prevented about 1/3rd more deaths than those that got pap smears.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashutosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashutosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 02:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sound quite encouraging but Uncle has a point. Pap smears are still cheap and &lt;i&gt;robust&lt;/i&gt;, aren&#039;t they? It would also have been nice to see an ROC curve in the original article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sound quite encouraging but Uncle has a point. Pap smears are still cheap and <i>robust</i>, aren&#8217;t they? It would also have been nice to see an ROC curve in the original article.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncle Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;Cervical cancer was a leading cause of death for American women in the 1950s; it now kills fewer than 4,000 a year.&lt;/I&gt;

That sentence says nothing.  It is not a valid comparison of anything.  A pap smear is a cervical mucus sample smeared upon a microscope slide, dried, stained, and examined - fast, cheap, capable in primitive conditions.  DNA probes are expensive high tech that do not like condensing moisture and high ambient temps.  Nobody dies of cancer.  It is the sequelae that are fatal. 

A half-century of State-mandated charity gushing Grand Guignol tsunamis of compassion into the Third World is obscene.  An advocate makes virtue of failure.  The worse the cure the better the treatment - and the more that is required.  The rational and economic solution is to do nothing.  Zero.  Poverty will promptly disappear as gods beam their approval over landscapes tesselated with bloated corpses.  Their Will Be Done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Cervical cancer was a leading cause of death for American women in the 1950s; it now kills fewer than 4,000 a year.</i></p>
<p>That sentence says nothing.  It is not a valid comparison of anything.  A pap smear is a cervical mucus sample smeared upon a microscope slide, dried, stained, and examined &#8211; fast, cheap, capable in primitive conditions.  DNA probes are expensive high tech that do not like condensing moisture and high ambient temps.  Nobody dies of cancer.  It is the sequelae that are fatal. </p>
<p>A half-century of State-mandated charity gushing Grand Guignol tsunamis of compassion into the Third World is obscene.  An advocate makes virtue of failure.  The worse the cure the better the treatment &#8211; and the more that is required.  The rational and economic solution is to do nothing.  Zero.  Poverty will promptly disappear as gods beam their approval over landscapes tesselated with bloated corpses.  Their Will Be Done.</p>
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		<title>By: Lilian Nattel</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2009/04/11/pap-smears-soon-%e2%80%9cof-mainly-historical-interest/#comment-15549</link>
		<dc:creator>Lilian Nattel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was all ready to chear until I read the full article. The DNA test still requires a cervical scraping. Drats! Those stirrups aren&#039;t disappearing anytime soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was all ready to chear until I read the full article. The DNA test still requires a cervical scraping. Drats! Those stirrups aren&#8217;t disappearing anytime soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems an encouraging and exciting advance forward by the medical community for all women.  Hooray!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems an encouraging and exciting advance forward by the medical community for all women.  Hooray!</p>
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