Comments on: Big Fat Lies About Climate Economics

By: Birdzilla

Birdzilla — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:16:25 +0000

Their not real scientists their politcal wackos

By: Erasmussimo

Erasmussimo — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:45:40 +0000

Perhaps so, Birdzilla. But what is your considered analysis of the statements of the eminent scientists at the National Academy of Sciences?

By: Birdzilla

Birdzilla — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:57:45 +0000

The biggist amount of HOT AIR around comes from the mouths of AL GORE and those annoying jerks from GREENPEACE so why dont they use duct tape over their fat pieholes to keep the HOT AIR down

By: 5 Sunday Links at Tête-à-Tête-Tête

5 Sunday Links at Tête-à-Tête-Tête — Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:57:03 +0000

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By: Erasmussimo

Erasmussimo — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 00:27:37 +0000

Why should we give any credence whatsoever to the wild claims of Brian M. and the like? These are the same people who are denying that the earth’s temperatures are rising, denying that any rise might be due to human activities, denying that any actions we could take would have any effect, and denying that there will be any injurious effects even if temperatures do rise. With all those many lies, why should they have any credibility now?

By: MadScientist

MadScientist — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 00:17:29 +0000

@Brian M: Like james wheaton I wonder where you get your figures from. If you stood up in front of any number of industry consortia and made such statements about cost you’d be laughed out of the room. The EU ETS is hardly aggressive; it is a dismal failure and people who have a personal stake in its success are really cranking out the apologetics. Perhaps it can improve, but that is something to be judged in the future; in the present we can only say that the EU ETS has to date been an unmitigated flop.

By: MadScientist

MadScientist — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 00:11:42 +0000

2012? That’s a bit late, isn’t it? What will the government do to encourage progress between now and 2012? The Germans will be laughing as they sell us all the ‘new technology’.

By: james wheaton

james wheaton — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:51:33 +0000

Brian M – where are you getting your data? A two-minute web search reveals many articles which describe at least some level of success in Europe reducing GHG’s. Besides, the US can learn from what has been successful and what has not. Your comments smell like the vitriolic rhetoric of the far right anti-intellectual wing nuts on Fox.

And on the costs, I suspect the consumer costs will be substantial when it is said and done – more than the advertised $140/year or something like that. But it must be done, and more. We can’t stand still and watch this climate issue conflate into a runaway, which is not a certainty, but is certainly a very likely possiblility according to the scientific experts who should know. I have kids – I worry about that for them.

By: Jon

Jon — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:39:27 +0000

…And Uncle Al will play the part of the possessed Linda Blair from The Exorcist.

By: Pineyman

Pineyman — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:18:37 +0000

Okay, granted that my brain short circuits every time I begin to hear a repub politico speak, but my gut feeling is they can’t think past the end of their collective nose (pardon the mixed metaphor).

Climate Economics can spur new technology and all its attendant benefits: sustained jobs and job growth, competition, economies of scale, further innovation, oil independency, etc. It’s just so obvious…well I guess to anyone with more than two functioning neurons.

Jon @ 9:54am – I think you mean “overt” mandates, given that “Drill, baby, drill” is the republican meditation mantra.