Comments on: Is America scientifically illiterate?

By: JFB

JFB — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 03:20:13 +0000

Funny how angry liberals and atheist clamor for government directed education in public schools then are disatisfied with the results? Standardized testing shows education is on the decline so the only answer is to double down and increase the indoctrination, then as GM suggests test them to insure they drank the koolaid.

Maybe we should ditch government run public education (heresy I know), give the US citizens their own money that is wasted in the current system to attend private schools then test for math, grammer, reading comprehension, critical thinking, logic etc… see which system is superior and let the more fit system (to put it in Darwinist terms) the opportunity to propagate? That’s how science works right empirical evidence, expirimentation, observation and repeatabillity?

GM will cry but they won’t be forced to watch “An Inconvinient Truth” how will we reach them, they will grow up and think differently than we do, they might question the validity of everything we told them thousands of times over, they will hear dangerous ideas and possible think that scientist can’t answer everything, who will protect the children, they might find out that Newton wrote about biblical prophecy yet he was a real scientist, that Einstien understood God existed, this must be stopped!!! Sensorship is a must show them religion is supertstition, it can’t be questioned.

Thank God for the Constitution, and I pray for Godly men to defend it.

By: sinz54

sinz54 — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 00:48:07 +0000

GM: For a public school teacher or ANY government official to state in his official capacity that “the major religions are intellectually indefensible” would represent a CLEAR violation of the Establishment Clause of the U.S. Constitution.

That’s why it’s not done. It’s blatantly unconstitutional.

I don’t know what you know about science, but you don’t know anything about the U.S. system of government.

By: Jon

Jon — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:36:09 +0000

The major problem is socially sanctioned lifelong indoctrination in infantile superstition. First, are peoples' spiritual traditions synonymous with "infantile superstition"? It sounds like you're saying that. Second, do we know that peoples' spiritual traditions are the "major problem", as in, the root cause of those problems? That's quite an @ssumption and I'd ask what, empirically speaking, you're relying on to make that @ssumption. Third, if you're calling peoples' spiritual traditions "child abuse", I'd agree with the author of this piece on that point.

By: Jon

Jon — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:34:47 +0000

The major problem is socially sanctioned lifelong indoctrination in infantile superstition. First, are peoples' spiritual traditions synonymous with "infantile superstition"? It sounds like you're saying that. Second, do we know that peoples' spiritual traditions are the "major problem", as in, the root cause of those problems? That's quite an assumption and I'd ask what, empirically speaking, you're relying on to make that assumption. Third, if you're calling peoples' spiritual traditions "child abuse", I'd agree with the author of this piece on that point.

By: Michael Kingsford Gray

Michael Kingsford Gray — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:01:06 +0000

A lack of eloquent scientists is not, and has never been the major problem.
The major problem is socially sanctioned lifelong indoctrination in infantile superstition.
(Mainly via the respective churches, but also the media who push such garbage as horoscopes and homeopathy.)

M & K’s “solution” that we should further the obsequious pandering to this child abuse in order to make it vanish is more than bizarre.
It is pathological in the extreme.

By: Jon

Jon — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:33:49 +0000

And you are a self-parody of the position you’re arguing for.

By: GM

GM — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:13:29 +0000

probably because you are illiterate, ignorant and deluded yourself

By: Jon

Jon — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 22:05:21 +0000

Well teaching in school that the “teachings of the major religions are intellectually indefensible” doesn’t strike me as literacy.

By: GM

GM — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 22:01:47 +0000

So according to you literacy is a bad thing???

By: Jon

Jon — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 21:50:10 +0000

I’ve always thought that the people who get scared by the slightest mention of governmental regulation are generally considered right-wing.

You would have a point if the government action you were advocating was “slight”, but needless to say it’s anything but.