Here’s something else for the global warming denialists to explain; how come glaciers in Bolivia are disappearing?

Lets indeed have ourselves a serious discussion about climate change, Barton. You can begin by talking about global trends rather than cherry-picking data from a single continent

I am still waiting for Bartoncreekbett to state that he accepts evolution as valid science, but I’m inclined to think not

….you’ve got a lot of ‘splaining to do, Barton the Silly Little Denialist.

Surely you’re not Barton the Cowardly Little Denialist, too….

Here’s something else for the global warming denialists to explain; how come glaciers in Bolivia are disappearing?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/14/science/earth/14bolivia.html?em

Why do satellite photos show the areas where glaciers are melting to have lower amounts of CO2 if that in turn is what causes the glacier to melt.

It’s always amusing that “skeptics” readily accept any data that they think support their claims. All other data are manipulated by the global conspiracy.

Yes, thanks for the reminder about the Northwest Passage. Who knows? If Henry Hudson was alive today, maybe he and his crew could have sailed from England to the coast of China, instead of finding himself, his son and several other loyal sailors set adrift by a mutinous crew in what would be known as Hudson’s Bay back in 1610 (Or was it 1611?), never again seen by a living soul.

I am still waiting for Bartoncreekbett to state that he accepts evolution as valid science, but I’m inclined to think not, since he thinks life on Earth has existed only for a million years (courtesy of course through the timely interventions of time travelling Klingons who conveniently seeded the earth with the Burgess Shale fauna, ostracoderms and placoderms, Tiktaalik, Dimetrodon, Coelophysis, Microraptor, etc. etc. at various times).

Try asking Mr. Bartoncreekbett how come the Northewest Passage is open for the first time since European settlers arrived in North America? When this subject was raised on Matthew Yglesias blog by myself and a commentor calling himself Don Williams, we were met with total silence from the global warming deniers. It would appear that they don’t want to respond to that one.

By the way, I always get a laugh from commentors who state that 1998 was the warmest year on record and that every year since then has been cooler, evidence of global cooling according to the denialists (actually, 2005 was about the same as 1998). Why pick 11998? With the same justification, one could pick 1997. Every year since 1997 has been warmer then 1997, therefore global warming must be true by the same reasoning.

There is a very good record of climate change in the polar ice cores that goes back, at minimum, 700,000 years. All the denialists favourite whipping boys are in there and have been part of the scientific record for at least a decade now and probably longer.

But’s let’s make this a little more concrete. Glacier National Park is projected to have no glaciers at all in, what is the latest estimate? Was it 50 years or 20? The very thing it was named after, it’s most prominent feature and main claim to fame, will be gone.

There will still be a park of course, but no glaciers. I wonder which denialist will stand up and recommend they change the name?

It’ll also be interesting to see if the dynamic of DotEarth will change (assuming he keeps it) when he’s not actually a reporter.

You’re hopeless. I am trying to explain to why the evidence for anthropogenic global warming is incontrovertible, but instead, like many creos I have dealt with, you seem more interested in throwing smoke and mirrors at me, not discussing at all, the relevant and credible scientific data.

Again, I would like to know whether you accept evolution as valid science and reject Intelligent Design and other similar forms of religious pseudoscientific nonsense, which are known collectively as creationism.