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	<title>Comments on: Russian Scientists Field Test Geoengineering</title>
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		<title>By: Neil Farbstein</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2009/12/14/russian-scientists-field-test-geoengineering/#comment-35162</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Farbstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m planning a geoengineering institute that will design and test geoengineering solutions to prevent runaway greenhouse warming. If you want to join us in that endeavor contact me at proton7@att.net
or click the link to the geoengineering web group</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m planning a geoengineering institute that will design and test geoengineering solutions to prevent runaway greenhouse warming. If you want to join us in that endeavor contact me at <a href="mailto:proton7@att.net">proton7@att.net</a><br />
or click the link to the geoengineering web group</p>
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		<title>By: sinz54</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2009/12/14/russian-scientists-field-test-geoengineering/#comment-35161</link>
		<dc:creator>sinz54</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would a regional nuclear war (say Israel-Iran, or India-Pakistan) put enough fallout into the stratosphere to reverse the greenhouse effect?

I&#039;ll bet that just one regional nuclear war would end our global warming problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would a regional nuclear war (say Israel-Iran, or India-Pakistan) put enough fallout into the stratosphere to reverse the greenhouse effect?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll bet that just one regional nuclear war would end our global warming problem.</p>
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		<title>By: First Geoengineering Field Trial Carried Out In Russia &#124; Top Mobile Accessories</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2009/12/14/russian-scientists-field-test-geoengineering/#comment-35159</link>
		<dc:creator>First Geoengineering Field Trial Carried Out In Russia &#124; Top Mobile Accessories</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] help combat rising global temperatures. But their efforts received little attention until a recent Mother Jones story by Chris Mooney, a science journalist who also blogs for [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] help combat rising global temperatures. But their efforts received little attention until a recent Mother Jones story by Chris Mooney, a science journalist who also blogs for [...] </p>
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		<title>By: First Geoengineering Field Trial Carried Out In Russia &#124; Top Mobile Accessories</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2009/12/14/russian-scientists-field-test-geoengineering/#comment-35160</link>
		<dc:creator>First Geoengineering Field Trial Carried Out In Russia &#124; Top Mobile Accessories</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] help combat rising global temperatures. But their efforts received little attention until a recent Mother Jones story by Chris Mooney, a science journalist who also blogs for [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] help combat rising global temperatures. But their efforts received little attention until a recent Mother Jones story by Chris Mooney, a science journalist who also blogs for [...] </p>
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		<title>By: Philip H.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2009/12/14/russian-scientists-field-test-geoengineering/#comment-35158</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This another in a series of really bad ideas - &lt;a href=&quot;http://districtofcolumbiadispatches.blogspot.com/search/label/Ocean%20Iron%20Fertilization&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;which I have explored before.&lt;/a&gt;  The real problem is that we&#039;ve already been in an uncontrolled geoengineerinf experiment since the start of the industrial revolution, and so adding more geoengineering to combat he impacts of the original geoengineering is just a dooms day loop waiting to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This another in a series of really bad ideas &#8211; <a href="http://districtofcolumbiadispatches.blogspot.com/search/label/Ocean%20Iron%20Fertilization" rel="nofollow">which I have explored before.</a>  The real problem is that we&#8217;ve already been in an uncontrolled geoengineerinf experiment since the start of the industrial revolution, and so adding more geoengineering to combat he impacts of the original geoengineering is just a dooms day loop waiting to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: First Geoengineering Field Trial Carried Out In Russia : MIDEASTA</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2009/12/14/russian-scientists-field-test-geoengineering/#comment-35157</link>
		<dc:creator>First Geoengineering Field Trial Carried Out In Russia : MIDEASTA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 06:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] help combat rising global temperatures. But their efforts received little attention until a recent Mother Jones story by Chris Mooney, a science journalist who also blogs for [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] help combat rising global temperatures. But their efforts received little attention until a recent Mother Jones story by Chris Mooney, a science journalist who also blogs for [...] </p>
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		<title>By: StevoR</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2009/12/14/russian-scientists-field-test-geoengineering/#comment-35156</link>
		<dc:creator>StevoR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 05:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So why aren&#039;t Americans thinking of such fixes too?

Reminds me of ideas rearding terraforming in  SF eg. Kim Stanley Robinson&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Mars&lt;/i&gt; trilogy.

If the AGW is real then it is worth thinking about this now &amp; if it truns out AGW is not real  we can use this technology later for terraforming.

I don&#039;t think AGW will be as bad as claimed if its true. If its true we may be better off and there will be areas that win and lose.

People have been shouting shrilly and preaching that &lt;i&gt;&quot;Teh end of teh World is Nighh! Nii-iiigh!&quot;&lt;/i&gt; throughout human history. Environmentalists have been predicting awful things &amp; warning of environmental armageddon since  .. well forever. :roll:

It always turns out not to be so. The Global Warming scare will, I predict most likely turn out to be no different just another quasi-religious pseudo-scientific political scare campaign.

If not, I suspect we will adapt or find technological answers.

I thnk we should wait until we&#039;ve had say three or even four or five years in a row that are all hotter than 1998 was before we  begin taking any drastic and irreversible measures that lower everyone&#039;s quality of life based on controversial dubious and, at least in some cases (eg.&quot;Hockey stick&quot;, CRU-gate) downright fraudulent &quot;science&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So why aren&#8217;t Americans thinking of such fixes too?</p>
<p>Reminds me of ideas rearding terraforming in  SF eg. Kim Stanley Robinson&#8217;s <i>Mars</i> trilogy.</p>
<p>If the AGW is real then it is worth thinking about this now &amp; if it truns out AGW is not real  we can use this technology later for terraforming.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think AGW will be as bad as claimed if its true. If its true we may be better off and there will be areas that win and lose.</p>
<p>People have been shouting shrilly and preaching that <i>&#8220;Teh end of teh World is Nighh! Nii-iiigh!&#8221;</i> throughout human history. Environmentalists have been predicting awful things &amp; warning of environmental armageddon since  .. well forever. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It always turns out not to be so. The Global Warming scare will, I predict most likely turn out to be no different just another quasi-religious pseudo-scientific political scare campaign.</p>
<p>If not, I suspect we will adapt or find technological answers.</p>
<p>I thnk we should wait until we&#8217;ve had say three or even four or five years in a row that are all hotter than 1998 was before we  begin taking any drastic and irreversible measures that lower everyone&#8217;s quality of life based on controversial dubious and, at least in some cases (eg.&#8221;Hockey stick&#8221;, CRU-gate) downright fraudulent &#8220;science&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: bad Jim</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2009/12/14/russian-scientists-field-test-geoengineering/#comment-35155</link>
		<dc:creator>bad Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 05:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We may have to resort to geoengineering if we can&#039;t get greenhouse gases under control, but we ought to prefer methods which are easily controlled, scalable, and offer the least worst side effects. Injecting sulfates into the stratosphere should be the last thing we try, because the side effects are nasty (acid rain, reduced crop yields in shadowed regions) and because the lag between injection and fallout is fairly long. In contrast, creating artificial fog to increase albedo in Arctic regions is chemically neutral and easily throttled. On top of that, a fleet of solar-powered autonomous robot ships would be really cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We may have to resort to geoengineering if we can&#8217;t get greenhouse gases under control, but we ought to prefer methods which are easily controlled, scalable, and offer the least worst side effects. Injecting sulfates into the stratosphere should be the last thing we try, because the side effects are nasty (acid rain, reduced crop yields in shadowed regions) and because the lag between injection and fallout is fairly long. In contrast, creating artificial fog to increase albedo in Arctic regions is chemically neutral and easily throttled. On top of that, a fleet of solar-powered autonomous robot ships would be really cool.</p>
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