Comments on: Good Morning DC

By: PJ

PJ — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 23:56:41 +0000

Did moptop just get exposed as posting under alters with a little slip-up in #50? I’m starting to wonder how many of the skeptics that seem to have “flooded” the blog are people like him, posting under duplicate names to make it look like there’s some big bloc out there…

By: PJ

PJ — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 23:55:06 +0000

…and I see JIM obviously didn’t read my post – which came DIRECTLY BEFORE HIS!!!!!!

*snicker*

By: gillt

gillt — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 21:45:51 +0000

that makes two of you

By: moptop

moptop — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:54:31 +0000

I resent that, cable news knows almost nothing about climate issues.

By: gillt

gillt — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 14:57:13 +0000

I disagree. Moptop’s had ample opportunity to review the literature through links I’ve provided and through his own curiosity. His lame appeals to science are transparent attempts to look legitimate, because if he cared about the science he’d have something to show for it. Instead moptop consistently chose to quote-mine and intentionally misrepresent a single sentence in the abstract of one paper…even after he’s been called out for doing so.

The denialist’s anti-science views run as deep as any young earth creationist or anti-vax activist. They ignores the mountain of evidence while focusing on a few stolen emails, opinion polls and cable news talking points.

By: Moptop

Moptop — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 11:15:32 +0000

Sorry, “Man in the Yellow Hat” was me.

By: Man in the Yellow Hat

Man in the Yellow Hat — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 11:11:53 +0000

“#18 moptop: “All of those temp records are adjusted by amounts greater than the amount of AGW they purport to show. See climategate.””

“what total drivel” – I paraphrase gillt.

“This is from the first of your links:

‘Evidence suggests that the bias is systematic and on the same order of magnitude as the background climate signal, therefore adjustments….’” – moptop

I leave it to the reader to decide who has had their legs “cut out from under them.”

And BTW JIM, I don’t need or want your help.

By: JIM

JIM — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 06:19:47 +0000

You can claim victory however you want, PJ and gillt. we know you warmers just can’t bring it to yourselves to go against you god Algore, so you’ll make up whatever “evidence” you want to think you can prove us wrong.

But you can’t prove why it’s a record cold snap in North America right now. No faked model mumbo jumbo can explain that.

By: PJ

PJ — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 06:15:37 +0000

You’re right, gillt. Next will come moptop or some other skeptic with the typical denialist phrase of “well, you liberals just drink the climate kool-aid!” response. You see that one come out when a denialist has had his legs sliced out from under him, is in the corner bleeding profusely, and sees the ax come swinging one last time at his forehead.

Resort to the political pejoratives when you’ve got nothing left!

By: Milton C.

Milton C. — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 06:10:51 +0000

gillt and bilbo have hit onto something by exposing moptop’s inability to support his accusations about climate science. And it doesn’t just rely on the instance gillt mentions in post #45. moptop has been asked here and on several other threads at the intersection to back his statements up time and time and time and time again, and he hasn’t succeeded once.

This trend isn’t limited to moptop, but it applies to literally every skeptic here. Everyone is able to make these supposedly damning accusations stating that some random part of climate science, some random dataset, etc. is incorrect, but when pushed, they run away from the thread or try to deflect by quickly changing the topic. If you’re an objective observer, that should speak volumes.

And I’m with bilbo on the statement that moptop isn’t making stuff up more than he is just accepting any claim made by another skeptic at face value. I get the feeling that’s what most skeptics do: they peruse skeptic blogs and forums and troll for talking points. When they find one, they quickly gobble it up with a “yes sir! I knew it!” and don’t bother to see if there’s even anything legit behind the claim. Moptop just admitted as much. If they didn’t do this blind acceptance of claims and accusations, they would likely know the reasons behind their claims rather than only being able to make the claim before tucking tail and running when challenged.