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		<title>By: The Skeptic: Blog &#187; Weekly News and Blog Roundup</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2010/02/02/why-were-losing-the-news/#comment-47920</link>
		<dc:creator>The Skeptic: Blog &#187; Weekly News and Blog Roundup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 15:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] an aspiring journalist concerned about the frequently poor standard of science reporting, an article from Discover Blogs addressing this issue particularly resonated with me. The argument for why this [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Simoleon Sense &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why We’re Losing the News</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2010/02/02/why-were-losing-the-news/#comment-47817</link>
		<dc:creator>Simoleon Sense &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why We’re Losing the News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 22:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Click Here To Read: Why We’re Losing the News [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Another Science Newsroom Cut, And a Big One &#124; The Intersection &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2010/02/02/why-were-losing-the-news/#comment-47708</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Science Newsroom Cut, And a Big One &#124; The Intersection &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 13:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I referred to yesterday as the news business&#8217;s &#8220;science core&#8221; keeps on [...]</description>
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		<title>By: bad Jim</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2010/02/02/why-were-losing-the-news/#comment-47705</link>
		<dc:creator>bad Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 10:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s entirely unsurprising that the overactive testudine is an enthusiastic panty sniffer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s entirely unsurprising that the overactive testudine is an enthusiastic panty sniffer.</p>
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		<title>By: Marion Delgado</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2010/02/02/why-were-losing-the-news/#comment-47690</link>
		<dc:creator>Marion Delgado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 03:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the issue is not a numerical lack of information sources, nor is it even (highly) accurate sources.

When more information is potentially available than can be paid attention to, comprehended and placed in context by someone getting the information, you have a FILTERING problem.

When there are more (highly) inaccurate information sources, and they are more readily available, you have a SIGNAL/NOISE problem.

When the information is a congerie, and other information that would fill the gaps between unconnected nodes of information is missing, as is a structural model to give the information coherence, you have a CONTEXT problem.

When information that is trivial is readily available, but not information that can empower the audience and help them solve problems, you have a RELEVANCE problem.

When information is easily concealed because of social, economic, political or military and police power, you have an OPENNESS problem.

When the mechanisms and laws for imparting public information aren&#039;t followed, you have an ACCESS problem.

When the information sources that use public resources take advantage of them without repaying that advantage, privileging themselves at the expense of the public and other information sources, you have a PUBLIC INTEREST problem.

Currently, many or most societies have ALL of these problems. A balanced society would depend on journalism to ameliorate any or all of them.

Again, none of these are a problem for a corporate culture that doesn&#039;t have the well-being of any particular society or the world at large as a goal. 

Wishful thinking is very dangerous. Neither God nor the Market care at all whether we humans have good or bad information sources as an aggregate. Indeed, the  competitive advantage powerful people have in this situation would move the market in the direction of greater informational inequality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the issue is not a numerical lack of information sources, nor is it even (highly) accurate sources.</p>
<p>When more information is potentially available than can be paid attention to, comprehended and placed in context by someone getting the information, you have a FILTERING problem.</p>
<p>When there are more (highly) inaccurate information sources, and they are more readily available, you have a SIGNAL/NOISE problem.</p>
<p>When the information is a congerie, and other information that would fill the gaps between unconnected nodes of information is missing, as is a structural model to give the information coherence, you have a CONTEXT problem.</p>
<p>When information that is trivial is readily available, but not information that can empower the audience and help them solve problems, you have a RELEVANCE problem.</p>
<p>When information is easily concealed because of social, economic, political or military and police power, you have an OPENNESS problem.</p>
<p>When the mechanisms and laws for imparting public information aren&#8217;t followed, you have an ACCESS problem.</p>
<p>When the information sources that use public resources take advantage of them without repaying that advantage, privileging themselves at the expense of the public and other information sources, you have a PUBLIC INTEREST problem.</p>
<p>Currently, many or most societies have ALL of these problems. A balanced society would depend on journalism to ameliorate any or all of them.</p>
<p>Again, none of these are a problem for a corporate culture that doesn&#8217;t have the well-being of any particular society or the world at large as a goal. </p>
<p>Wishful thinking is very dangerous. Neither God nor the Market care at all whether we humans have good or bad information sources as an aggregate. Indeed, the  competitive advantage powerful people have in this situation would move the market in the direction of greater informational inequality.</p>
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		<title>By: Busiturtle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2010/02/02/why-were-losing-the-news/#comment-47689</link>
		<dc:creator>Busiturtle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 03:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone can report the &quot;news&quot;. Countless of entities, beginning with the White House, write news every day for the media to report. Which begs the question of why the networks feel obliged to pay their anchors tens of millions of dollars annually to read a teleprompter when any fool who has completed communications 101 would do it for free beer and pizza.

On the other hand investigative journalism is hard. It requires talented reporters, editors and producers. Problem is the media companies with the deepest news staffs have shown a great reluctance to investigate stories that might contradict their political bias. Thus we are left with the National Enquirer being more esteemed than the New York Times at uncovering scandals involving Democrats such as John Edwards.

The news is always biased. It not only reflects the perspective of those who write the news but the prejudice of those who decide what aspects of a story to report. As such it behooves one seeking understanding to consult a diversity of media sources. Anything less and one is likely to be ill informed and surprised by the turn of events as the truth comes out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone can report the &#8220;news&#8221;. Countless of entities, beginning with the White House, write news every day for the media to report. Which begs the question of why the networks feel obliged to pay their anchors tens of millions of dollars annually to read a teleprompter when any fool who has completed communications 101 would do it for free beer and pizza.</p>
<p>On the other hand investigative journalism is hard. It requires talented reporters, editors and producers. Problem is the media companies with the deepest news staffs have shown a great reluctance to investigate stories that might contradict their political bias. Thus we are left with the National Enquirer being more esteemed than the New York Times at uncovering scandals involving Democrats such as John Edwards.</p>
<p>The news is always biased. It not only reflects the perspective of those who write the news but the prejudice of those who decide what aspects of a story to report. As such it behooves one seeking understanding to consult a diversity of media sources. Anything less and one is likely to be ill informed and surprised by the turn of events as the truth comes out.</p>
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		<title>By: Marion Delgado</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2010/02/02/why-were-losing-the-news/#comment-47688</link>
		<dc:creator>Marion Delgado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 02:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Marion Delgado</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2010/02/02/why-were-losing-the-news/#comment-47687</link>
		<dc:creator>Marion Delgado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 02:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the denialist commenters who come here honestly don&#039;t know that accuracy is entirely a matter of more or less, and not binary, no wonder they&#039;ve been so easily, and so thoroughly, fooled by the denialism industry to begin with.

What do you do with &quot;Something is either accurate or it isn’t. It can’t be MORE accurate.&quot; 

I think even the Sumerians knew better. That&#039;s not figuratively but literally caveman logic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the denialist commenters who come here honestly don&#8217;t know that accuracy is entirely a matter of more or less, and not binary, no wonder they&#8217;ve been so easily, and so thoroughly, fooled by the denialism industry to begin with.</p>
<p>What do you do with &#8220;Something is either accurate or it isn’t. It can’t be MORE accurate.&#8221; </p>
<p>I think even the Sumerians knew better. That&#8217;s not figuratively but literally caveman logic.</p>
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		<title>By: Milton C.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2010/02/02/why-were-losing-the-news/#comment-47682</link>
		<dc:creator>Milton C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 23:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strip away bilbo&#039;s usual silliness and you&#039;ve got a good point, specifically:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;We’re all guilty to a degree. There is no unbiased “news” anymore. Just a world of subjective opinion-news hybrids to wade through.&lt;/i&gt;

I think this is very true, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s necessarily an evil thing. If we can teach people to think criticially and not just lap up whatever agrees with their narrative while automatically hurling daggers at those which do not, I think we can get somewhere. As it is, though, real critical analysis of the &quot;news&quot; these days doesn&#039;t make it very far past a person&#039;s own mental spam filter. Not good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strip away bilbo&#8217;s usual silliness and you&#8217;ve got a good point, specifically:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;We’re all guilty to a degree. There is no unbiased “news” anymore. Just a world of subjective opinion-news hybrids to wade through.</i></p>
<p>I think this is very true, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s necessarily an evil thing. If we can teach people to think criticially and not just lap up whatever agrees with their narrative while automatically hurling daggers at those which do not, I think we can get somewhere. As it is, though, real critical analysis of the &#8220;news&#8221; these days doesn&#8217;t make it very far past a person&#8217;s own mental spam filter. Not good.</p>
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		<title>By: moptop</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2010/02/02/why-were-losing-the-news/#comment-47671</link>
		<dc:creator>moptop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bilbo,
That was a reasonable comment! My work here is done. Continue your echo chamber as you were.
    - Goodbye, and thanks for all the fish! 
           -moptop</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bilbo,<br />
That was a reasonable comment! My work here is done. Continue your echo chamber as you were.<br />
    &#8211; Goodbye, and thanks for all the fish!<br />
           -moptop</p>
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