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		<title>By: Ray Hanawalt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Hanawalt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 20:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pull the well casing allowing the gas pressure to expand the well diameter laterally which together with the great pressure at this depth will collapse the top of the well in upon itself cutting off the flow.</description>
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		<title>By: John Conrad</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Conrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can &quot;solutions&quot; be seriously assessed on their merits when the precise nature of the problem has not (for whatever reasons) been clearly and unequivocally stated?
Specifically, is this stuff rising via the casing, or from around it, either immediately proximate to it or via lateral &quot;sneak paths &quot; through porous deposits around it?  Is the sub- sea casing believed to be essentially intact, intact but vertically displaced, and if compromised, in how many places and at what depth(s) below the sea bottom?  Is their credible evidence to suggest that the originally impermeable roof containing the &quot;find&quot; has cracked or collapsed?
This catastrophe has two distinct major dimensions to it;  the first is the issue pertaining to source control/containment, and the second is  the broader challenge related to control and mitigation of the secondary damages consequent to the first.
 What would be &quot;cool&quot; would be to establish first and foremost if there were plausible (preferably but not necessarily reversible) means for suppression at source without even having to resort to  recovery or secondary drilling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can &#8220;solutions&#8221; be seriously assessed on their merits when the precise nature of the problem has not (for whatever reasons) been clearly and unequivocally stated?<br />
Specifically, is this stuff rising via the casing, or from around it, either immediately proximate to it or via lateral &#8220;sneak paths &#8221; through porous deposits around it?  Is the sub- sea casing believed to be essentially intact, intact but vertically displaced, and if compromised, in how many places and at what depth(s) below the sea bottom?  Is their credible evidence to suggest that the originally impermeable roof containing the &#8220;find&#8221; has cracked or collapsed?<br />
This catastrophe has two distinct major dimensions to it;  the first is the issue pertaining to source control/containment, and the second is  the broader challenge related to control and mitigation of the secondary damages consequent to the first.<br />
 What would be &#8220;cool&#8221; would be to establish first and foremost if there were plausible (preferably but not necessarily reversible) means for suppression at source without even having to resort to  recovery or secondary drilling.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles A. Bowsher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles A. Bowsher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 04:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first I found
on the tom ashbrook site

&quot;Dear Sirs,
 Apparently our solutions already invented for our Spanish disaster few years ago… told at that time to be too cheap to solve the problem… but we have patented it, proved it in a real case under the sea. It is an umbrella (soft made of kind of strong sail boat material with both soft or a bit stringer radios and with a pipe to suck and direct ALL the oil… Patent nr: 200.800.278. We can build the new one pretty fast and add small motors at its corners to be manipulated electronically from surface!&quot;
Posted by Patricia Rodriguez, on June 3rd, 2010 at 12:54 PM


This is one of my ideas for cleanup.

By the way I also have a cleanup idea that uses barges, tugboats and a &quot;Coast Guard Approved&quot; oil recovery mat called the Ottimat(tm) I ran across it while researching and it is a fantastic product. It is 99% human hair and 1% polypropylene, it is re-usable (up to 100 times)and effective.  I contacted the Ottimat(tm) manufacturer and he says he can manufacture the Ottimat(tm) in ten foot widths to any length we want. I chose 300 feet long, he said no problem. My idea is to create &quot;Oil Recovery Factories&quot; that operate thusly.

-We would want to deploy the mats all over a spill area, it takes a few minutes for the oil to soak in. Then the barges come along scooping up the leading edge of the Ottimat(tm) which is then passed through a device similar to what you used to see on the old ringer washers (this one would be ten or so feet wide) where it is squeezed out. The oil is thusly removed to the hold of the barge or its on board tanks. Once the Ottimat(tm) is squeezed out it is passed to the stern (rear) of the boat where it is redeployed. We might have to attach some kind of buoyancy material to the edges or the centers of the mats but we won&#039;t know until we try it out.  Repeat this process over and over and over all over any spill areas. So far I can&#039;t seem to get any one listening on this one, though I have to admit I have concentrated on controlling the flowing oil because long range wise it is or should be our number one priority. Plus the more we can prevent from entering the water, the easier (relative term there) the subsequent cleanup.

Another idea
-is they should be dumping the hay and straw in the marsh areas just ahead of the &quot;Spill tide&quot; and then &quot;capture&quot; and squeeze it out when the &quot;Spill tide&quot; tries to go back to sea.

That&#039;s all I&#039;ll post for know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first I found<br />
on the tom ashbrook site</p>
<p>&#8220;Dear Sirs,<br />
 Apparently our solutions already invented for our Spanish disaster few years ago… told at that time to be too cheap to solve the problem… but we have patented it, proved it in a real case under the sea. It is an umbrella (soft made of kind of strong sail boat material with both soft or a bit stringer radios and with a pipe to suck and direct ALL the oil… Patent nr: 200.800.278. We can build the new one pretty fast and add small motors at its corners to be manipulated electronically from surface!&#8221;<br />
Posted by Patricia Rodriguez, on June 3rd, 2010 at 12:54 PM</p>
<p>This is one of my ideas for cleanup.</p>
<p>By the way I also have a cleanup idea that uses barges, tugboats and a &#8220;Coast Guard Approved&#8221; oil recovery mat called the Ottimat(tm) I ran across it while researching and it is a fantastic product. It is 99% human hair and 1% polypropylene, it is re-usable (up to 100 times)and effective.  I contacted the Ottimat(tm) manufacturer and he says he can manufacture the Ottimat(tm) in ten foot widths to any length we want. I chose 300 feet long, he said no problem. My idea is to create &#8220;Oil Recovery Factories&#8221; that operate thusly.</p>
<p>-We would want to deploy the mats all over a spill area, it takes a few minutes for the oil to soak in. Then the barges come along scooping up the leading edge of the Ottimat(tm) which is then passed through a device similar to what you used to see on the old ringer washers (this one would be ten or so feet wide) where it is squeezed out. The oil is thusly removed to the hold of the barge or its on board tanks. Once the Ottimat(tm) is squeezed out it is passed to the stern (rear) of the boat where it is redeployed. We might have to attach some kind of buoyancy material to the edges or the centers of the mats but we won&#8217;t know until we try it out.  Repeat this process over and over and over all over any spill areas. So far I can&#8217;t seem to get any one listening on this one, though I have to admit I have concentrated on controlling the flowing oil because long range wise it is or should be our number one priority. Plus the more we can prevent from entering the water, the easier (relative term there) the subsequent cleanup.</p>
<p>Another idea<br />
-is they should be dumping the hay and straw in the marsh areas just ahead of the &#8220;Spill tide&#8221; and then &#8220;capture&#8221; and squeeze it out when the &#8220;Spill tide&#8221; tries to go back to sea.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s all I&#8217;ll post for know.</p>
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		<title>By: Dora Dobbson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dora Dobbson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 20:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can I send to you or to any powerful person my idea regarding the oil spill stopping? I would need a fax number to be able to send drawings.
It is simple, it is about how to entomb it with well footed domes.
My phone number:805-404-6590
It would be good to have a forum, to discuss with experts.
Thanks
Dora Dobbson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can I send to you or to any powerful person my idea regarding the oil spill stopping? I would need a fax number to be able to send drawings.<br />
It is simple, it is about how to entomb it with well footed domes.<br />
My phone number:805-404-6590<br />
It would be good to have a forum, to discuss with experts.<br />
Thanks<br />
Dora Dobbson</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Casselman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann Casselman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 23:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Discover

I have an idea.  I am not an engineer but perhaps some brilliant engineer can transpose my idea into something possible.
I have a drawing but it will not copy to your reply area.

If you can picture a pipe with various varying shapes that are metal attached to the inside.  The pipe can be screwed into the big oil leaking pipe and as it is screwed those pieces or large varying chards start to compact together.  This minimizes the flow of oil and then BP can cap the well.

Please call me if you have questions.  Ann Casselman 518 692-2979</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Discover</p>
<p>I have an idea.  I am not an engineer but perhaps some brilliant engineer can transpose my idea into something possible.<br />
I have a drawing but it will not copy to your reply area.</p>
<p>If you can picture a pipe with various varying shapes that are metal attached to the inside.  The pipe can be screwed into the big oil leaking pipe and as it is screwed those pieces or large varying chards start to compact together.  This minimizes the flow of oil and then BP can cap the well.</p>
<p>Please call me if you have questions.  Ann Casselman 518 692-2979</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 18:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Charles. I will share this with the CEO of Innocentive who is in the process of linking smart solutions to the decision-makers at BP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Charles. I will share this with the CEO of Innocentive who is in the process of linking smart solutions to the decision-makers at BP.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles A. Bowsher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles A. Bowsher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 21:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr. Mooney:
I have been trying to submit my idea for harnessing the ongoing spill but BP nor the government will listen. They are also refusing to make public the submitted suggestions thereby leading to countless duplications by dedicated souls such as myself. This is the largest environmental disaster of our lifetimes (I hope) and rather than solving the problem, everyone is worried about how it plays PR wise. In short, what I propose is that a large &quot;straw&quot; be constructed  out of 8-10 foot diameter culvert pipe or a canvas tube. This is then lowered down over the leak. The &quot;straw&quot; has a flexible weighted collar that will seal around the leaking riser. Boats on the surface can then pump the rising oil to waiting tankers, barges and inflatable bladders for transport to onshore refineries.

Attached is the submission I sent to the joint task force. I am an independent inventor/creative who frankly can&#039;t stop thinking about solving this crisis. I don&#039;t want money, but I could use a little credit before I lose my home to foreclosure.
Thanks for listening. Tomorrow I go to my local university to quiz some engineering professors to see if my idea is feasible. I am having trouble connecting with anyone who is competent to shoot it down. Everyone I have presented it to are intelligent we just don&#039;t have a fluid dynamics background.

This was submitted to the joint task force on Friday may 21 2010

Brief description of technology (200 words or less)
Please stop  thinking of harnessing or stopping the pressure of the spewing oil and gas mixture. Let the pressure and flow assist you in the recovery of the oil and gas by directing its flow to the surface where recovery is simply a matter of pumping to waiting tankers, barges, and bladders. We have all seen these collapsible tubes/tunnels children crawl through or dogs run through in agility contests. They can be made to any length and nearly any diameter desired. The one I envision will be about five feet diameter, made of marine grade canvas or sailcloth,  it could  have an internal continual spiral of steel (similar to what is used as rebar in concrete columns) intermittently attached to cables which will be used to lower it into place over the leak in the riser pipe. I think the internal spiral is unnecessary.  You apparently have three or more leaks so three or more will need to be constructed and deployed. Your pipe insertion method while useful to some extent is still not recovering anywhere near a majority of the spill let alone all of it as the method I proposed will. The bottom can be weighted with rubberized blasting mats.

Material list (100 words or less)
For each tube/tunnel you will need
-One (1)- 5280 foot long five foot diameter marine canvas or sailcloth tube
-Five (5) - 5,500 foot long steel cable 3/4&quot; to 1&quot; diameter
-Hundreds of connectors to keep the tube together down its length.
-Weighted flexible collar for the bottom of the tube so it sort of seals itself around the riser

Optional
-Six to Eight (6-8) miles of spiral (4&#039;10&quot; diameter) formed 1/2&quot; to 3/4&quot; rebar joined at intervals (only necessary of the tube/tunnel collapses, I don&#039;t think that will be a problem once this is put in place the tube will &quot;fill itself&quot;)
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Equipment (100 words or less)
Sewing machines to make the canvas/sailcloth tube and attach rings at intervals for the cable to pass through
Winches to let down the cable and tube
Ships to deploy this apparatus
Tankers for recovering the gas and oil.
Separator Pumps to recover the gas and oil as it comes to the surface
The amazing robots to direct and place the open end of the tube above the leak.

Expertise Required (100 words or less)
Mine of course, call me, seriously though all kidding aside I think if you are reading this idea please get it to someone who can make it happen. Somebody with an open mind who can visualize and accept that sometimes the simplest solutions are really the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Mooney:<br />
I have been trying to submit my idea for harnessing the ongoing spill but BP nor the government will listen. They are also refusing to make public the submitted suggestions thereby leading to countless duplications by dedicated souls such as myself. This is the largest environmental disaster of our lifetimes (I hope) and rather than solving the problem, everyone is worried about how it plays PR wise. In short, what I propose is that a large &#8220;straw&#8221; be constructed  out of 8-10 foot diameter culvert pipe or a canvas tube. This is then lowered down over the leak. The &#8220;straw&#8221; has a flexible weighted collar that will seal around the leaking riser. Boats on the surface can then pump the rising oil to waiting tankers, barges and inflatable bladders for transport to onshore refineries.</p>
<p>Attached is the submission I sent to the joint task force. I am an independent inventor/creative who frankly can&#8217;t stop thinking about solving this crisis. I don&#8217;t want money, but I could use a little credit before I lose my home to foreclosure.<br />
Thanks for listening. Tomorrow I go to my local university to quiz some engineering professors to see if my idea is feasible. I am having trouble connecting with anyone who is competent to shoot it down. Everyone I have presented it to are intelligent we just don&#8217;t have a fluid dynamics background.</p>
<p>This was submitted to the joint task force on Friday may 21 2010</p>
<p>Brief description of technology (200 words or less)<br />
Please stop  thinking of harnessing or stopping the pressure of the spewing oil and gas mixture. Let the pressure and flow assist you in the recovery of the oil and gas by directing its flow to the surface where recovery is simply a matter of pumping to waiting tankers, barges, and bladders. We have all seen these collapsible tubes/tunnels children crawl through or dogs run through in agility contests. They can be made to any length and nearly any diameter desired. The one I envision will be about five feet diameter, made of marine grade canvas or sailcloth,  it could  have an internal continual spiral of steel (similar to what is used as rebar in concrete columns) intermittently attached to cables which will be used to lower it into place over the leak in the riser pipe. I think the internal spiral is unnecessary.  You apparently have three or more leaks so three or more will need to be constructed and deployed. Your pipe insertion method while useful to some extent is still not recovering anywhere near a majority of the spill let alone all of it as the method I proposed will. The bottom can be weighted with rubberized blasting mats.</p>
<p>Material list (100 words or less)<br />
For each tube/tunnel you will need<br />
-One (1)- 5280 foot long five foot diameter marine canvas or sailcloth tube<br />
-Five (5) &#8211; 5,500 foot long steel cable 3/4&#8243; to 1&#8243; diameter<br />
-Hundreds of connectors to keep the tube together down its length.<br />
-Weighted flexible collar for the bottom of the tube so it sort of seals itself around the riser</p>
<p>Optional<br />
-Six to Eight (6-8) miles of spiral (4&#8217;10&#8243; diameter) formed 1/2&#8243; to 3/4&#8243; rebar joined at intervals (only necessary of the tube/tunnel collapses, I don&#8217;t think that will be a problem once this is put in place the tube will &#8220;fill itself&#8221;)<br />
-<br />
Equipment (100 words or less)<br />
Sewing machines to make the canvas/sailcloth tube and attach rings at intervals for the cable to pass through<br />
Winches to let down the cable and tube<br />
Ships to deploy this apparatus<br />
Tankers for recovering the gas and oil.<br />
Separator Pumps to recover the gas and oil as it comes to the surface<br />
The amazing robots to direct and place the open end of the tube above the leak.</p>
<p>Expertise Required (100 words or less)<br />
Mine of course, call me, seriously though all kidding aside I think if you are reading this idea please get it to someone who can make it happen. Somebody with an open mind who can visualize and accept that sometimes the simplest solutions are really the best.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulK</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 18:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some information about sweeping arms. No just a new product but a proven technique

http://www.marinelog.com/DOCS/NEWSMMIX/2010may00180.html

and
http://www.itopf.com/information-services/publications/papers/documents/iosc2005_000.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some information about sweeping arms. No just a new product but a proven technique</p>
<p><a href="http://www.marinelog.com/DOCS/NEWSMMIX/2010may00180.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.marinelog.com/DOCS/NEWSMMIX/2010may00180.html</a></p>
<p>and<br />
<a href="http://www.itopf.com/information-services/publications/papers/documents/iosc2005_000.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.itopf.com/information-services/publications/papers/documents/iosc2005_000.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jimbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 12:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First order of business is to shut off the flow of oil. Blow it up. Collapse the drill hole with tons of rock. It may take a low level nuke to do it, but the alternative is the literal death of the gulf (if we haven&#039;t reached that point already). Of course BP has not even remotely considered this because of their reluctance to lose their investment - never mind the damage they have done.

Then instead of using chemicals to dissolve and disperse the oil, spreading the damage far and wide, use chemicals to solidify the oil making it easier to retrieve and remove.

Then start shutting down these platforms. As we now know, unless you are an oil tycoon, it ain&#039;t worth the risk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First order of business is to shut off the flow of oil. Blow it up. Collapse the drill hole with tons of rock. It may take a low level nuke to do it, but the alternative is the literal death of the gulf (if we haven&#8217;t reached that point already). Of course BP has not even remotely considered this because of their reluctance to lose their investment &#8211; never mind the damage they have done.</p>
<p>Then instead of using chemicals to dissolve and disperse the oil, spreading the damage far and wide, use chemicals to solidify the oil making it easier to retrieve and remove.</p>
<p>Then start shutting down these platforms. As we now know, unless you are an oil tycoon, it ain&#8217;t worth the risk.</p>
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		<title>By: Dark tent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dark tent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 21:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a perfectly reasonable approach. Probably any college chemistry professor could you what you needed to use–or suggest a dozen possibilities.&quot;

It has nothing to do with being an asshole.

You have no clue what you are talking about.

You even admitted as much</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a perfectly reasonable approach. Probably any college chemistry professor could you what you needed to use–or suggest a dozen possibilities.&#8221;</p>
<p>It has nothing to do with being an asshole.</p>
<p>You have no clue what you are talking about.</p>
<p>You even admitted as much</p>
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