Comments on: Secretary Chu Invokes Sputnik to Spur Us on in Competitiveness and Energy Innovation http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2010/12/01/secretary-chu-invokes-sputnik-to-spur-us-on-in-competitiveness-and-energy-innovation/ Where science collides with life, slams into culture, crashes with politics, and gets totaled. Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:28:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: JMW http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2010/12/01/secretary-chu-invokes-sputnik-to-spur-us-on-in-competitiveness-and-energy-innovation/#comment-84072 JMW Thu, 02 Dec 2010 14:02:23 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/?p=14163#comment-84072 The real question should be, will it accomplish anything? I doubt it. The US is on a slide to becoming a third world country, with tainted and unethical politics, an economy that doesn't work, a growing gap between rich and poor. The Sputnik moment had better not be about just innovation in the energy sector, it had better be about everything. Otherwise Americans will continue on their fat, dumb, happy way to the spot in history where all the other world-spanning empires end up. The real question should be, will it accomplish anything?

I doubt it. The US is on a slide to becoming a third world country, with tainted and unethical politics, an economy that doesn’t work, a growing gap between rich and poor. The Sputnik moment had better not be about just innovation in the energy sector, it had better be about everything. Otherwise Americans will continue on their fat, dumb, happy way to the spot in history where all the other world-spanning empires end up.

]]> By: Sean McCorkle http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2010/12/01/secretary-chu-invokes-sputnik-to-spur-us-on-in-competitiveness-and-energy-innovation/#comment-84024 Sean McCorkle Thu, 02 Dec 2010 05:16:27 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/?p=14163#comment-84024 The call to beef up STEM funding and activities in the US are laudatory. The immense benefits which resulted from America's reaction to Sputnik are well documented. While people were interested and inspired by Sputnik (a la Homer Hickam's <i>Rocket Boys: A Memoir</i>), the major cause of the response was cold wartime fear. Fear is an effective motivator; it can mobilize even the most lackadaisical individual. It was easy to get congress riled up and ready to fund anything that might shore up perceived shortcomings on our side, for fear of being outmaneuvered in the high frontier, or losing out in a race for advanced weaponry. (As #4 says, once the threat dried up, so did much funding for high energy physics and space research). The current threat that Chu is describing is mainly economic competitiveness. Thats probably way down on the fear scale by comparison, and it won't elicit the same level of response from politicians. Ultimately, fanning fears to fund science is wrong, although it can be effective. Far better for the public to knowingly fund research for the collective benefits to society and civilization. The call to beef up STEM funding and activities in the US are laudatory. The immense benefits which resulted from America’s reaction to Sputnik are well documented. While people were interested and inspired by Sputnik (a la Homer Hickam’s Rocket Boys: A Memoir), the major cause of the response was cold wartime fear. Fear is an effective motivator; it can mobilize even the most lackadaisical individual. It was easy to get congress riled up and ready to fund anything that might shore up perceived shortcomings on our side, for fear of being outmaneuvered in the high frontier, or losing out in a race for advanced weaponry. (As #4 says, once the threat dried up, so did much funding for high energy physics and space research).

The current threat that Chu is describing is mainly economic competitiveness. Thats probably way down on the fear scale by comparison, and it won’t elicit the same level of response from politicians.

Ultimately, fanning fears to fund science is wrong, although it can be effective. Far better for the public to knowingly fund research for the collective benefits to society and civilization.

]]> By: Jamie Vernon http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2010/12/01/secretary-chu-invokes-sputnik-to-spur-us-on-in-competitiveness-and-energy-innovation/#comment-83967 Jamie Vernon Wed, 01 Dec 2010 18:32:15 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/?p=14163#comment-83967 My biggest concern is that we have waited too long to reach our "Sputnik" moment. However, I feel we must act. We must act immediately. The problem is that the threat is so intangible. I suspect Americans will be skeptical of the magnitude of the problem (much like climate change). Americans understand threats of violence. It's much more difficult to communicate the threat of economic and scientific competition. Finally, we lack a charismatic leader to motivate us toward these goals. Chu cites Eisenhower, who was a very convincing leader. Chu is a scientist, not a science communicator, as clearly demonstrated in the robotic delivery of this speech. You should juxtapose this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B8R-umE0s0) of the sputnik moment with Chu's speech and consider the way the media is dealing with this lapse in America's domination of the sciences versus how the sputnik event was handled by the media in the 50's. Therein, lies part of the problem. My biggest concern is that we have waited too long to reach our “Sputnik” moment. However, I feel we must act. We must act immediately. The problem is that the threat is so intangible. I suspect Americans will be skeptical of the magnitude of the problem (much like climate change). Americans understand threats of violence. It’s much more difficult to communicate the threat of economic and scientific competition. Finally, we lack a charismatic leader to motivate us toward these goals. Chu cites Eisenhower, who was a very convincing leader. Chu is a scientist, not a science communicator, as clearly demonstrated in the robotic delivery of this speech. You should juxtapose this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B8R-umE0s0) of the sputnik moment with Chu’s speech and consider the way the media is dealing with this lapse in America’s domination of the sciences versus how the sputnik event was handled by the media in the 50′s. Therein, lies part of the problem.

]]> By: Curious Wavefunction http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2010/12/01/secretary-chu-invokes-sputnik-to-spur-us-on-in-competitiveness-and-energy-innovation/#comment-83966 Curious Wavefunction Wed, 01 Dec 2010 18:32:04 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/?p=14163#comment-83966 The Sputnik analogy will no longer work well. At that point in history it was easy to be egged on by notions of the 'Evil Empire'. Very few circumstances offer as many incentives for scientific research and development on a national footing as war. The Cold War with all its evils and misunderstandings was certainly a marvelous opportunity to channel money into science and science education, and it was easy to get all excited and patriotic about science. The fact is that after the Cold War there was no enemy big enough to inspire similar feelings. One could think that climate change or terrorism could play this role, but these problems are much too diffuse, polylithic and complicated to achieve similar results as Sputnik. The Sputnik analogy will no longer work well. At that point in history it was easy to be egged on by notions of the ‘Evil Empire’. Very few circumstances offer as many incentives for scientific research and development on a national footing as war. The Cold War with all its evils and misunderstandings was certainly a marvelous opportunity to channel money into science and science education, and it was easy to get all excited and patriotic about science.

The fact is that after the Cold War there was no enemy big enough to inspire similar feelings. One could think that climate change or terrorism could play this role, but these problems are much too diffuse, polylithic and complicated to achieve similar results as Sputnik.

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]]> By: ThomasL http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2010/12/01/secretary-chu-invokes-sputnik-to-spur-us-on-in-competitiveness-and-energy-innovation/#comment-83955 ThomasL Wed, 01 Dec 2010 17:37:07 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/?p=14163#comment-83955 Let’s see… The age of Sputnik – The U.S. is the undisputed leader in Education, Economic might, national savings and real wealth, industrial capability, technological advancement – to just name a few things. Today… - Not so much on any of the above, and serious competition in all areas. Yep, great analogy. It’s hard to throw “everything the country has” at a problem when the country is already in hock up to its ears (well, maybe it is actually easy as there isn’t much lying around left to “throw” at anything…). Let’s see…

The age of Sputnik – The U.S. is the undisputed leader in Education, Economic might, national savings and real wealth, industrial capability, technological advancement – to just name a few things.

Today… – Not so much on any of the above, and serious competition in all areas.

Yep, great analogy. It’s hard to throw “everything the country has” at a problem when the country is already in hock up to its ears (well, maybe it is actually easy as there isn’t much lying around left to “throw” at anything…).

]]> By: Rob Schneider http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2010/12/01/secretary-chu-invokes-sputnik-to-spur-us-on-in-competitiveness-and-energy-innovation/#comment-83953 Rob Schneider Wed, 01 Dec 2010 17:09:06 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/?p=14163#comment-83953 Don't think it fair as: : The catalyst for competing with Sputnik was politically inspired and supported because of the politics of the day : No need for any special science, or even technology for that matter, to initiate and progress the development. All was well understood. Just had to "make it happen". Don’t think it fair as:

: The catalyst for competing with Sputnik was politically inspired and supported because of the politics of the day
: No need for any special science, or even technology for that matter, to initiate and progress the development. All was well understood. Just had to “make it happen”.

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