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	<title>Comments on: The Science of Why We Deny Science: Motivated Reasoning</title>
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		<title>By: Dad</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2011/04/18/the-science-of-why-we-deny-science-motivated-reasoning/#comment-97018</link>
		<dc:creator>Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 02:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm... you lumped creationists in with vaccine denial. Let me encourage you to take the log out of your own eye before working on my speck of dust &gt;&gt;  

How about original cause denial? How about 2nd law of thermodynamics denial? Your science is flawed precisely because you choose to ignore the foundational truths science - there must be original cause, He absolutely must be eternal, or you must throw out the 2nd law. I think your well theories are a house of cards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230; you lumped creationists in with vaccine denial. Let me encourage you to take the log out of your own eye before working on my speck of dust &gt;&gt;  </p>
<p>How about original cause denial? How about 2nd law of thermodynamics denial? Your science is flawed precisely because you choose to ignore the foundational truths science &#8211; there must be original cause, He absolutely must be eternal, or you must throw out the 2nd law. I think your well theories are a house of cards.</p>
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		<title>By: Carolinus</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2011/04/18/the-science-of-why-we-deny-science-motivated-reasoning/#comment-96721</link>
		<dc:creator>Carolinus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 20:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking forward to Mr. Mooney&#039;s application of this insight to other commonly and stubbornly held views, such as &quot;socialism didn&#039;t fail; it was never tried&quot;; &quot;the Cold War ended in spite of, not because of, Reagan&quot;; &quot;discovery of a single hominid fossil would confirm our evolutionary origins&quot;; that sort of thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking forward to Mr. Mooney&#8217;s application of this insight to other commonly and stubbornly held views, such as &#8220;socialism didn&#8217;t fail; it was never tried&#8221;; &#8220;the Cold War ended in spite of, not because of, Reagan&#8221;; &#8220;discovery of a single hominid fossil would confirm our evolutionary origins&#8221;; that sort of thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Los Angeles Cardiologist</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2011/04/18/the-science-of-why-we-deny-science-motivated-reasoning/#comment-96479</link>
		<dc:creator>Los Angeles Cardiologist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2011 14:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read your article and thought it was very interesting. Strangely, I had just finished David Brooks&#039; new book and in it he makes a similar point. In his book, he also makes the point that we need the subconscious valuations in order to be able to actually make a decision. Without the subconscious valuations, we would get stuck on weighing the pros and cons of a decision. It would be interesting to know what happens to the brain when one changes a deeply held belief. It seems that people who convert to another religion or ideology are often much more passionate about that new belief than the believers who have held that belief for a longer time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read your article and thought it was very interesting. Strangely, I had just finished David Brooks&#8217; new book and in it he makes a similar point. In his book, he also makes the point that we need the subconscious valuations in order to be able to actually make a decision. Without the subconscious valuations, we would get stuck on weighing the pros and cons of a decision. It would be interesting to know what happens to the brain when one changes a deeply held belief. It seems that people who convert to another religion or ideology are often much more passionate about that new belief than the believers who have held that belief for a longer time.</p>
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		<title>By: Torbjörn Larsson, OM</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2011/04/18/the-science-of-why-we-deny-science-motivated-reasoning/#comment-96403</link>
		<dc:creator>Torbjörn Larsson, OM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2011 20:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ #5: I noticed the irony too, as evidenced by the first reference here being an unreferenced essay and the Haidt reference discussing moral judgment and its theories which inflated unfounded into meaning science theories. But science theories have factual, not moral behavior, basis.

It is &lt;i&gt;so close&lt;/i&gt; but evidently Mooney doesn&#039;t see the emotional bind he is in, call it cognitive dissonance or motivated reasoning. For science that support an emotion provoking, consistent _and_ factual approach to issues one has only to read Rosenhause&#039;s post on that. It is months old; and it has actual references.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ #5: I noticed the irony too, as evidenced by the first reference here being an unreferenced essay and the Haidt reference discussing moral judgment and its theories which inflated unfounded into meaning science theories. But science theories have factual, not moral behavior, basis.</p>
<p>It is <i>so close</i> but evidently Mooney doesn&#8217;t see the emotional bind he is in, call it cognitive dissonance or motivated reasoning. For science that support an emotion provoking, consistent _and_ factual approach to issues one has only to read Rosenhause&#8217;s post on that. It is months old; and it has actual references.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Thoman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Thoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2011 17:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like how the article itself proves the point that it&#039;s talking about by the author&#039;s trying to use reasoning to support his biases. Irony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like how the article itself proves the point that it&#8217;s talking about by the author&#8217;s trying to use reasoning to support his biases. Irony.</p>
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		<title>By: Nullius in Verba</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2011/04/18/the-science-of-why-we-deny-science-motivated-reasoning/#comment-96388</link>
		<dc:creator>Nullius in Verba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2011 17:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How would you be able to tell if your own thinking was biased?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How would you be able to tell if your own thinking was biased?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2011 15:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Identity and group pressures seem very important, that and the ability to deliver messages that will be easily digested by key groups/constituencies...

As Michael Baroody, president of AEI, said to a reporter back in the 80&#039;s: “...our sophisticated ability to relate ideology to constituencies is what counts...”

http://tinyurl.com/4sm4zzu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Identity and group pressures seem very important, that and the ability to deliver messages that will be easily digested by key groups/constituencies&#8230;</p>
<p>As Michael Baroody, president of AEI, said to a reporter back in the 80&#8242;s: “&#8230;our sophisticated ability to relate ideology to constituencies is what counts&#8230;”</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/4sm4zzu" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/4sm4zzu</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bobito</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2011 15:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Our “reasoning” is a means to a predetermined end—winning our “case”—and is shot through with biases. &lt;/em&gt;

This is the problem with our highly politicized environment these days.  Reasoning has gone away, arguing &quot;your side&quot; of the argument is more important that understanding the other&#039;s point of view and where they may be more, or equally, correct.

I think this is a product of the information age.  Years ago, more people would make unbiased decisions based on how they feel about the information available to them.  But these days, people tend to make decisions based on what their political affiliation tells them it should be.  As if agreeing with the &quot;other side&quot; on any single point discredits the whole of their political ideology.

If one finds themselves agreeing with all the views of their political party 100%, there is little doubt that they are not using rational thought, they are using &lt;em&gt;confirmation bias&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Our “reasoning” is a means to a predetermined end—winning our “case”—and is shot through with biases. </em></p>
<p>This is the problem with our highly politicized environment these days.  Reasoning has gone away, arguing &#8220;your side&#8221; of the argument is more important that understanding the other&#8217;s point of view and where they may be more, or equally, correct.</p>
<p>I think this is a product of the information age.  Years ago, more people would make unbiased decisions based on how they feel about the information available to them.  But these days, people tend to make decisions based on what their political affiliation tells them it should be.  As if agreeing with the &#8220;other side&#8221; on any single point discredits the whole of their political ideology.</p>
<p>If one finds themselves agreeing with all the views of their political party 100%, there is little doubt that they are not using rational thought, they are using <em>confirmation bias</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: SciAnswers Social Media Website &#124; Blog &#124; The Science of Why We Deny Science: Motivated Reasoning - Discover Magazine (blog)</title>
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		<dc:creator>SciAnswers Social Media Website &#124; Blog &#124; The Science of Why We Deny Science: Motivated Reasoning - Discover Magazine (blog)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2011 14:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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