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	<title>Comments on: Really Depressing Polling Data on Global Warming Beliefs</title>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2011/06/08/really-depressing-polling-data-on-global-warming-beliefs/#comment-105360</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2011 08:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan Anderson @#16 says &quot;The science is based on reality&quot;

Rubbish.  Physicist, Professor Harold Lewis, described AGW as unprecedented &quot;pseudoscientific fraud&quot;.  Politically driven modelling.  Not hard objective science.  Not empirical evidence.  Fraud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan Anderson @#16 says &#8220;The science is based on reality&#8221;</p>
<p>Rubbish.  Physicist, Professor Harold Lewis, described AGW as unprecedented &#8220;pseudoscientific fraud&#8221;.  Politically driven modelling.  Not hard objective science.  Not empirical evidence.  Fraud.</p>
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		<title>By: Nullius in Verba</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2011/06/08/really-depressing-polling-data-on-global-warming-beliefs/#comment-104337</link>
		<dc:creator>Nullius in Verba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 15:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#16,

&lt;i&gt;&quot;The planet has the last vote&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

What would you do, hypothetically, if it &quot;voted&quot; against &lt;i&gt;you?&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#16,</p>
<p><i>&#8220;The planet has the last vote&#8221;</i></p>
<p>What would you do, hypothetically, if it &#8220;voted&#8221; against <i>you?</i></p>
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		<title>By: Susan Anderson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2011/06/08/really-depressing-polling-data-on-global-warming-beliefs/#comment-104331</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 14:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, you really don&#039;t get it do you?  The planet has the last vote, and it doesn&#039;t care about your opinion.  You appear to have no idea that you are being led by the nose by powerful interests with only short-term profits in mind  At some point the earth, which is clamoring for your attention, will up the ante enough that you will notice.

The science is based on reality, and facts don&#039;t vote.  Prejudice does, though, and snarky labels can be quite successful in a world where infotainment trumps reality.  However, the increasing power demands of that &quot;virtual&quot; reality depend on real generation, and that generation is trashing your air, your sea, your water supply, your infrastructure, and all that goes with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, you really don&#8217;t get it do you?  The planet has the last vote, and it doesn&#8217;t care about your opinion.  You appear to have no idea that you are being led by the nose by powerful interests with only short-term profits in mind  At some point the earth, which is clamoring for your attention, will up the ante enough that you will notice.</p>
<p>The science is based on reality, and facts don&#8217;t vote.  Prejudice does, though, and snarky labels can be quite successful in a world where infotainment trumps reality.  However, the increasing power demands of that &#8220;virtual&#8221; reality depend on real generation, and that generation is trashing your air, your sea, your water supply, your infrastructure, and all that goes with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2011/06/08/really-depressing-polling-data-on-global-warming-beliefs/#comment-104001</link>
		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 15:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s been an Aussie survey on this too - don&#039;t thnk as detailed - but most of us do accept the scientific consensus that AGW is real even if a majority also don&#039;t want a carbon tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s been an Aussie survey on this too &#8211; don&#8217;t thnk as detailed &#8211; but most of us do accept the scientific consensus that AGW is real even if a majority also don&#8217;t want a carbon tax.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2011/06/08/really-depressing-polling-data-on-global-warming-beliefs/#comment-103997</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 15:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations Warmists, you have officially lost the public consensus.

Chris Said:
&lt;i&gt;In other words, Americans are all over the map on this question, with no idea as to the strength of the scientific consensus.&lt;/i&gt;

Did you ever consider Chris that many people who say they &quot;don&#039;t know&quot; are simply trying to avoid the social stigma of their real answer which is &quot;I don&#039;t care&quot;?

Did you ever consider, Chris, that what you see as &quot;education&quot; your students see as &quot;propaganda&quot;.  

By the way Chris, you can&#039;t give a &quot;wrong answer&quot; to a question regarding your &quot;opinion&quot;.  I know that you believe people aren&#039;t allowed to have any non-consensus opinion, but they seem to want to anyway.

I think that all the Warmists who are regulars here, should mark this day in your Calendar, as the official day that Warmists became the minority.

The consensus is dead.  Long live the controversy.

In other words, the public knows exactly how strong the scientific consensus is, and they seriously don&#039;t care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations Warmists, you have officially lost the public consensus.</p>
<p>Chris Said:<br />
<i>In other words, Americans are all over the map on this question, with no idea as to the strength of the scientific consensus.</i></p>
<p>Did you ever consider Chris that many people who say they &#8220;don&#8217;t know&#8221; are simply trying to avoid the social stigma of their real answer which is &#8220;I don&#8217;t care&#8221;?</p>
<p>Did you ever consider, Chris, that what you see as &#8220;education&#8221; your students see as &#8220;propaganda&#8221;.  </p>
<p>By the way Chris, you can&#8217;t give a &#8220;wrong answer&#8221; to a question regarding your &#8220;opinion&#8221;.  I know that you believe people aren&#8217;t allowed to have any non-consensus opinion, but they seem to want to anyway.</p>
<p>I think that all the Warmists who are regulars here, should mark this day in your Calendar, as the official day that Warmists became the minority.</p>
<p>The consensus is dead.  Long live the controversy.</p>
<p>In other words, the public knows exactly how strong the scientific consensus is, and they seriously don&#8217;t care.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo Schmidt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2011/06/08/really-depressing-polling-data-on-global-warming-beliefs/#comment-103950</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugo Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 12:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Nullius&lt;/b&gt;, thanks for the further stuff.  I&#039;m learning a lot here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Nullius</b>, thanks for the further stuff.  I&#8217;m learning a lot here.</p>
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		<title>By: Nullius in Verba</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2011/06/08/really-depressing-polling-data-on-global-warming-beliefs/#comment-103787</link>
		<dc:creator>Nullius in Verba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 17:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#11,

&lt;i&gt;Are you saying the noted references by Chris for the survey misrepresent the consensus due to “statistical tricks?”&lt;/i&gt;

Yes. That was my point.

&lt;i&gt;If so, you might want to review your own posted suvey, which shows a dramatic consensus favoring anthropogenic climate change causes&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, I agree. That doesn&#039;t affect my point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#11,</p>
<p><i>Are you saying the noted references by Chris for the survey misrepresent the consensus due to “statistical tricks?”</i></p>
<p>Yes. That was my point.</p>
<p><i>If so, you might want to review your own posted suvey, which shows a dramatic consensus favoring anthropogenic climate change causes</i></p>
<p>Yes, I agree. That doesn&#8217;t affect my point.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2011/06/08/really-depressing-polling-data-on-global-warming-beliefs/#comment-103776</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 16:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chris:  Thanks for the links!

@Nullius in Verba:  I&#039;m having trouble discerning your point.  Are you saying the noted references by Chris for the survey misrepresent the consensus due to &quot;statistical tricks?&quot;  If so, you might want to review your own posted suvey, which shows a dramatic consensus favoring anthropogenic climate change causes, by whatever statistical legerdemain you care to employ.  I&#039;m betting I&#039;m simply missing your point, though.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris:  Thanks for the links!</p>
<p>@Nullius in Verba:  I&#8217;m having trouble discerning your point.  Are you saying the noted references by Chris for the survey misrepresent the consensus due to &#8220;statistical tricks?&#8221;  If so, you might want to review your own posted suvey, which shows a dramatic consensus favoring anthropogenic climate change causes, by whatever statistical legerdemain you care to employ.  I&#8217;m betting I&#8217;m simply missing your point, though.  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mat C</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2011/06/08/really-depressing-polling-data-on-global-warming-beliefs/#comment-103746</link>
		<dc:creator>Mat C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 13:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Polling may not be an indication of belief like scientific consensus may not be an indicator of truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Polling may not be an indication of belief like scientific consensus may not be an indicator of truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Wes Rolley</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2011/06/08/really-depressing-polling-data-on-global-warming-beliefs/#comment-103668</link>
		<dc:creator>Wes Rolley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 04:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if it will change things, but ABC and Diane Sawyer had both Heidi Cullen and Jeff Masters on the world news tonight talking about climate and extreme weather.  If you think this is hot, get used to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if it will change things, but ABC and Diane Sawyer had both Heidi Cullen and Jeff Masters on the world news tonight talking about climate and extreme weather.  If you think this is hot, get used to you.</p>
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