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		<title>By: Sean McCorkle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2011/06/25/off-to-doha-and-cairo/#comment-106024</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean McCorkle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 23:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@5

&lt;i&gt;Because its about money, taxes and energy. &lt;/i&gt;

If its about money, wouldn&#039;t climate scientists be pursuing more lucrative careers, like finance or something? And if its about energy, wouldn&#039;t they be in an energy industry, maybe a lucrative one (fossil fuels, or something like that?)

&lt;i&gt;How do you think they pay for Chris’s trips to Doha.&lt;/i&gt;

Didn&#039;t you say in #4 that Chris is a journalist, and not a scientist?  How is that answering the question &quot;why is climate science not about science&quot;?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@5</p>
<p><i>Because its about money, taxes and energy. </i></p>
<p>If its about money, wouldn&#8217;t climate scientists be pursuing more lucrative careers, like finance or something? And if its about energy, wouldn&#8217;t they be in an energy industry, maybe a lucrative one (fossil fuels, or something like that?)</p>
<p><i>How do you think they pay for Chris’s trips to Doha.</i></p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t you say in #4 that Chris is a journalist, and not a scientist?  How is that answering the question &#8220;why is climate science not about science&#8221;?</p>
<p>And who is &#8220;they&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2011/06/25/off-to-doha-and-cairo/#comment-106016</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 22:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sean Mcorkie

&lt;i&gt;...why is climate science not about science?&lt;/i&gt;

Because its about money, taxes and energy.  How do you think they pay for Chris&#039;s trips to Doha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sean Mcorkie</p>
<p><i>&#8230;why is climate science not about science?</i></p>
<p>Because its about money, taxes and energy.  How do you think they pay for Chris&#8217;s trips to Doha.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2011/06/25/off-to-doha-and-cairo/#comment-106015</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 22:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@NickfromNYC

&lt;i&gt;Being one of Wired magazine’s ten “sexiest geeks” and part of the televised jet set...&lt;/i&gt;

He&#039;s a journalist geek.  You&#039;re a scientist geek.  He&#039;s a more valuable geek.  Here&#039;s why.

Wired loves Chris because he wrote one of the two best books for the Liberals pushing the idea that Conservative Business interests hijack science and media influences to push misinformation.  Chris&#039;s book is &quot;Republican War on Science&quot; and the other is Naomi Campbell&#039;s &quot;Merchants of Doubt&quot;.

You&#039;re lab work very likely is useless for generating vast sums of money.  Chris and Naomi&#039;s literary work is highly valuable.  Doubt is a dangerous thing to someone trying to sell a multi-trillion dollar world wide tax on everything.  

Naomi&#039;s book&#039;s message is that conservatives manufacture false controversy to supress science they don&#039;t like.  Chris&#039;s book&#039;s message is that the Bush administration ignored science it didn&#039;t like, and made up science it did.

These are uber-valuable talking points for a huge variety of liberal causes.  It enables a liberal presenter to use any science-like information they want.  If anyone doubts the information, out comes the two books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@NickfromNYC</p>
<p><i>Being one of Wired magazine’s ten “sexiest geeks” and part of the televised jet set&#8230;</i></p>
<p>He&#8217;s a journalist geek.  You&#8217;re a scientist geek.  He&#8217;s a more valuable geek.  Here&#8217;s why.</p>
<p>Wired loves Chris because he wrote one of the two best books for the Liberals pushing the idea that Conservative Business interests hijack science and media influences to push misinformation.  Chris&#8217;s book is &#8220;Republican War on Science&#8221; and the other is Naomi Campbell&#8217;s &#8220;Merchants of Doubt&#8221;.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re lab work very likely is useless for generating vast sums of money.  Chris and Naomi&#8217;s literary work is highly valuable.  Doubt is a dangerous thing to someone trying to sell a multi-trillion dollar world wide tax on everything.  </p>
<p>Naomi&#8217;s book&#8217;s message is that conservatives manufacture false controversy to supress science they don&#8217;t like.  Chris&#8217;s book&#8217;s message is that the Bush administration ignored science it didn&#8217;t like, and made up science it did.</p>
<p>These are uber-valuable talking points for a huge variety of liberal causes.  It enables a liberal presenter to use any science-like information they want.  If anyone doubts the information, out comes the two books.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean McCorkle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2011/06/25/off-to-doha-and-cairo/#comment-105970</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean McCorkle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 12:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@2

Impressive credentials, but apparently all your work has been inside labs, where controlled experiments are possible.   Do you have any experience in the Earth Sciences?  Atmospheric Physics?  Solar physics?  Astronomy? Any natural or environmental sciences?  Fields where its usually not possible to carry out carefully controlled experiments?  

I ask because I suspect a case of the Dunning-Kruger effect on your part, claiming that your expertise in one type of science allows you to judge the science in a completely different field.  While observational sciences are coupled to and make use of  benchtop results, working on a planetary (or larger) scale is a whole different animal from a controlled experiment. Researchers have to struggle with less-than-optimal measurements, missing data points (i.e equipment failure, bad weather, inadequate funding for full coverage, etc) and more often than not, have to struggle with identifying what is true and known in situations where there are many many unknowns.

&lt;i&gt;so I can state very forcefully that contemporary climate science is not about science but about adding the veneer of science to a doomsday cash cow scenario, merely&lt;/i&gt;

and in that context, I ask: okay, why is climate science not about science?
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<p>Impressive credentials, but apparently all your work has been inside labs, where controlled experiments are possible.   Do you have any experience in the Earth Sciences?  Atmospheric Physics?  Solar physics?  Astronomy? Any natural or environmental sciences?  Fields where its usually not possible to carry out carefully controlled experiments?  </p>
<p>I ask because I suspect a case of the Dunning-Kruger effect on your part, claiming that your expertise in one type of science allows you to judge the science in a completely different field.  While observational sciences are coupled to and make use of  benchtop results, working on a planetary (or larger) scale is a whole different animal from a controlled experiment. Researchers have to struggle with less-than-optimal measurements, missing data points (i.e equipment failure, bad weather, inadequate funding for full coverage, etc) and more often than not, have to struggle with identifying what is true and known in situations where there are many many unknowns.</p>
<p><i>so I can state very forcefully that contemporary climate science is not about science but about adding the veneer of science to a doomsday cash cow scenario, merely</i></p>
<p>and in that context, I ask: okay, why is climate science not about science?</p>
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		<title>By: NikFromNYC</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2011/06/25/off-to-doha-and-cairo/#comment-105940</link>
		<dc:creator>NikFromNYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 02:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being one of Wired magazine’s ten “sexiest geeks&quot; and part of the televised jet set is quite an advantage to being a greenie who merely had to earn an undergraduate English degree instead of any science degree whatsoever! You&#039;re cute because you&#039;re young, kid, since you didn&#039;t do the time required to learn science as a research discipline instead of just a fun topic. I spent 13 years in school, doing benchtop research in a genetics lab, an organometallic lab, two orgo labs (at Columbia), and a microfabrication lab at Harvard. I have thus had not one but five academic advisers who were top notch scientists. I know what science is about so I can state very forcefully that contemporary climate science is not about science but about adding the veneer of science to a doomsday cash cow scenario, merely. How it happened will be one for the history books for I understand it not, so far.

-=NikFromNYC=- Ph.D. in Carbon Chemistry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being one of Wired magazine’s ten “sexiest geeks&#8221; and part of the televised jet set is quite an advantage to being a greenie who merely had to earn an undergraduate English degree instead of any science degree whatsoever! You&#8217;re cute because you&#8217;re young, kid, since you didn&#8217;t do the time required to learn science as a research discipline instead of just a fun topic. I spent 13 years in school, doing benchtop research in a genetics lab, an organometallic lab, two orgo labs (at Columbia), and a microfabrication lab at Harvard. I have thus had not one but five academic advisers who were top notch scientists. I know what science is about so I can state very forcefully that contemporary climate science is not about science but about adding the veneer of science to a doomsday cash cow scenario, merely. How it happened will be one for the history books for I understand it not, so far.</p>
<p>-=NikFromNYC=- Ph.D. in Carbon Chemistry</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Koss</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2011/06/25/off-to-doha-and-cairo/#comment-105858</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Koss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2011 07:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m looking for some guidance. 

A trip like you are undertaking  must emit many tons of co2. I assume you are purchasing sufficient carbon offsets to cover your emissions. I have heard some offset sellers are nothing but scam artists. What organization do you buy from and what is the current cost per ton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m looking for some guidance. </p>
<p>A trip like you are undertaking  must emit many tons of co2. I assume you are purchasing sufficient carbon offsets to cover your emissions. I have heard some offset sellers are nothing but scam artists. What organization do you buy from and what is the current cost per ton.</p>
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