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		<title>By: Jason Munshi-South</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2004/10/26/island-of-the-lost-hominids/comment-page-1/#comment-1450</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Munshi-South</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2004 07:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Viva Orang Pendek!

The name literally means &#039;little man&#039; in Bahasa Indonesia (maybe the same creature as ebu gogo?)...people at my field site in Borneo claim to have seen this small man-ape in the forest from time to time, although they question themselves as to whether they have just seen a gibbon walking on the ground!

&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/3734946.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/3734946.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/3734946.stm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

You can bet that scientists all over the Indomalayan region are going to note the locations of previously unexplored caves.  Although given the condition of these bones of H. floresiensis,  one needs to tread lightly (or not at all without the help of an paleontologist)!  There are literally thousands of islands in the region, so there must be other bones (and possibly hominid species) awaiting discovery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Viva Orang Pendek!</p>
<p>The name literally means &#8216;little man&#8217; in Bahasa Indonesia (maybe the same creature as ebu gogo?)&#8230;people at my field site in Borneo claim to have seen this small man-ape in the forest from time to time, although they question themselves as to whether they have just seen a gibbon walking on the ground!</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/3734946.stm" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/3734946.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/3734946.stm</a></p>
<p>You can bet that scientists all over the Indomalayan region are going to note the locations of previously unexplored caves.  Although given the condition of these bones of H. floresiensis,  one needs to tread lightly (or not at all without the help of an paleontologist)!  There are literally thousands of islands in the region, so there must be other bones (and possibly hominid species) awaiting discovery.</p>
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		<title>By: wazza</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2004/10/26/island-of-the-lost-hominids/comment-page-1/#comment-1449</link>
		<dc:creator>wazza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2004 13:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a pity they don&#039;t actually have any H.erectus DNA to compare do they? I believe they have some Neanderthal DNA (which is H. sapiens).
Wouldn&#039;t it be good if they found them living today on other islands. They&#039;d have to keep it a big secret though &amp; vaccinate the little guys against everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a pity they don&#8217;t actually have any H.erectus DNA to compare do they? I believe they have some Neanderthal DNA (which is H. sapiens).<br />
Wouldn&#8217;t it be good if they found them living today on other islands. They&#8217;d have to keep it a big secret though &amp; vaccinate the little guys against everything.</p>
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		<title>By: joe doe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2004/10/26/island-of-the-lost-hominids/comment-page-1/#comment-1448</link>
		<dc:creator>joe doe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2004 04:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>deep fried jungle monkeys.
mmmm
sounds delicious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>deep fried jungle monkeys.<br />
mmmm<br />
sounds delicious.</p>
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		<title>By: mark erectus</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2004/10/26/island-of-the-lost-hominids/comment-page-1/#comment-1447</link>
		<dc:creator>mark erectus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2004 19:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i was just speaking with the flouridenthies in my backyard. to quote it: WE ARE ALL HOMO-ERECTUS DONT FLATTER YOURSELVES. THE SCIENTISTS ARE ALL A BUNCH OF HACKS AFRAID TO DISSECT ANY OF US CONTEMPORANEOUSLY AND ADMIT WE&#039;RE ALL A LITTLE DIFFERENT! I&#039;M NO ROCK HUDSON LOOK AT ME! in which moment i cut it off telling it not to be so hard on itself, and changing its attention back to the miniature stone tools that it was showing off to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was just speaking with the flouridenthies in my backyard. to quote it: WE ARE ALL HOMO-ERECTUS DONT FLATTER YOURSELVES. THE SCIENTISTS ARE ALL A BUNCH OF HACKS AFRAID TO DISSECT ANY OF US CONTEMPORANEOUSLY AND ADMIT WE&#8217;RE ALL A LITTLE DIFFERENT! I&#8217;M NO ROCK HUDSON LOOK AT ME! in which moment i cut it off telling it not to be so hard on itself, and changing its attention back to the miniature stone tools that it was showing off to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2004/10/26/island-of-the-lost-hominids/comment-page-1/#comment-1446</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW the Scientific American link you gave has a link to an interview with Peter Brown. Here&#039;s his thoughts on the tools...

[Quote]B: It&#039;s strikingly different from everything ever found with H. erectus. Apart from this short, small-brained thing surviving until 14,000 or 18,000 years ago, its association with these stone tools is the other most remarkable thing about the site. It&#039;s something the critics will take a very close look at because there are three possibilities. Either Homo sapiens, of which there is no [fossil] evidence, was making these stone tools; or this small [hominid] learned to make the stone tools from H. sapiens in some way; or it was actually making the tools itself. I think it was making the stone tools. We have the same tools going from 94,000 years ago until 18,000 or 14,000 years ago--no change in technology, no change in materials, consistent from the bottom to where the skeleton was found. So on account of the evidence, the association seems fairly clear. Maybe something else will turn up at Liang Bua in the end, but at present there is nothing. The only [hominid] we&#039;re finding in association with stone tools is this small thing.[/Quote]

...so Quite convincing linkage between the tools and the hobbits. What a puzzle!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW the Scientific American link you gave has a link to an interview with Peter Brown. Here&#8217;s his thoughts on the tools&#8230;</p>
<p>[Quote]B: It&#8217;s strikingly different from everything ever found with H. erectus. Apart from this short, small-brained thing surviving until 14,000 or 18,000 years ago, its association with these stone tools is the other most remarkable thing about the site. It&#8217;s something the critics will take a very close look at because there are three possibilities. Either Homo sapiens, of which there is no [fossil] evidence, was making these stone tools; or this small [hominid] learned to make the stone tools from H. sapiens in some way; or it was actually making the tools itself. I think it was making the stone tools. We have the same tools going from 94,000 years ago until 18,000 or 14,000 years ago&#8211;no change in technology, no change in materials, consistent from the bottom to where the skeleton was found. So on account of the evidence, the association seems fairly clear. Maybe something else will turn up at Liang Bua in the end, but at present there is nothing. The only [hominid] we&#8217;re finding in association with stone tools is this small thing.[/Quote]</p>
<p>&#8230;so Quite convincing linkage between the tools and the hobbits. What a puzzle!</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2004/10/26/island-of-the-lost-hominids/comment-page-1/#comment-1445</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Carl

Cool write-up. A few quibbles. Current best bet on the local extinction of H.floresiensis is the volcanic detonation that wiped out the other mini-mammals on the island c. 13,000 bp. If H.sapiens did in the hobbits then why did they leave the mini-stegodons and the like?

However from what the researchers who made the find have said the stone tools found with the homs are proportionately reduced from regular erectus-style tools - hence made for little hands. No evidence is yet apparent for a violent end, as much as certain paradigms are praying for such.

The intriguing aspect of the freshness of the remains are the local legends of &quot;ebu gogo&quot; who are described in terms very similar to H.floresiensis. Hence the current thought that the hobbits lived on until the arrival of the Dutch. Some - even Chris Stringer in &quot;Nature&quot; - have gone so far as to wonder if they&#039;re still lurking around the Javanese bush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Carl</p>
<p>Cool write-up. A few quibbles. Current best bet on the local extinction of H.floresiensis is the volcanic detonation that wiped out the other mini-mammals on the island c. 13,000 bp. If H.sapiens did in the hobbits then why did they leave the mini-stegodons and the like?</p>
<p>However from what the researchers who made the find have said the stone tools found with the homs are proportionately reduced from regular erectus-style tools &#8211; hence made for little hands. No evidence is yet apparent for a violent end, as much as certain paradigms are praying for such.</p>
<p>The intriguing aspect of the freshness of the remains are the local legends of &#8220;ebu gogo&#8221; who are described in terms very similar to H.floresiensis. Hence the current thought that the hobbits lived on until the arrival of the Dutch. Some &#8211; even Chris Stringer in &#8220;Nature&#8221; &#8211; have gone so far as to wonder if they&#8217;re still lurking around the Javanese bush.</p>
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		<title>By: Dienekes Pontikos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dienekes Pontikos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2004 01:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is much easier to extract mitochondrial DNA, because the mitochondrial genome is very short and there are lots of copies of it in each cell. As a result it&#039;s easier to amplify mtDNA and to be assured that it hasn&#039;t suffered post-mortem damage leading. Also, there are already mtDNA studies on Pleistocene &lt;i&gt;Homo sapiens&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Homo neandertalensis&lt;/i&gt;, so it would be interesting to see how more different &lt;i&gt;Homo floresiensis&lt;/i&gt; is to these two species.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is much easier to extract mitochondrial DNA, because the mitochondrial genome is very short and there are lots of copies of it in each cell. As a result it&#8217;s easier to amplify mtDNA and to be assured that it hasn&#8217;t suffered post-mortem damage leading. Also, there are already mtDNA studies on Pleistocene <i>Homo sapiens</i> and <i>Homo neandertalensis</i>, so it would be interesting to see how more different <i>Homo floresiensis</i> is to these two species.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew C Ross</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2004/10/26/island-of-the-lost-hominids/comment-page-1/#comment-1443</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew C Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2004 23:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re James Bass&#039;s post: Why would it be useful to obtain mitochondrial DNA rather than DNA from a nucleus?
Re George McCurdy&#039;s comment: What sea level changes have there been in the area over the last 1 million years? Can he suggest an alternative to swimming there for H. floresiensis? Presumably to support the theory of evolution it would be necessary to demonstate that the DNA of H floresiensis has evolved from H. erectus?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re James Bass&#8217;s post: Why would it be useful to obtain mitochondrial DNA rather than DNA from a nucleus?<br />
Re George McCurdy&#8217;s comment: What sea level changes have there been in the area over the last 1 million years? Can he suggest an alternative to swimming there for H. floresiensis? Presumably to support the theory of evolution it would be necessary to demonstate that the DNA of H floresiensis has evolved from H. erectus?</p>
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		<title>By: David B</title>
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		<dc:creator>David B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2004 22:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at a map.  Flores is not a &#039;remote Pacific island&#039;; it is part of the &#039;Malay Archipelago&#039;.  No biogeographer would be more surprised to find elephants on Flores than rhinos on Sumatra.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at a map.  Flores is not a &#8216;remote Pacific island&#8217;; it is part of the &#8216;Malay Archipelago&#8217;.  No biogeographer would be more surprised to find elephants on Flores than rhinos on Sumatra.</p>
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		<title>By: George McCurdy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2004/10/26/island-of-the-lost-hominids/comment-page-1/#comment-1441</link>
		<dc:creator>George McCurdy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quoting talkorigins.org Douglas Theobold&#039;s 29+ evidences for macroevolution prediction 2.5 under falsification:

&quot;...we predict that we should never find elephants on any Pacific islands, even though they would survive well there.&quot;

Apparently finding elephants on Pacific Islands would be a falsification of macroevolutionary theory.

Quoting from this blog:

&quot;Boats seem to have been essential for getting to Flores, which speaks of a pretty impressive mental capacity for Homo erectus . (On the other hand, lizards and elephants and other land animals got to the island without a boat--perhaps by swimming being swept away on logs during storms.)&quot;

Whoops!  One can imagine how a Creationist speaker would love to add this to his arsenal.  First the evolutionists say that finding elephants on a remote Pacific island would &quot;falsify&quot; the theory, then, when elephants are found, the explanation is that they were swimming while holding on to logs in storms.  Of course! The theory of evolution has been saved again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quoting talkorigins.org Douglas Theobold&#8217;s 29+ evidences for macroevolution prediction 2.5 under falsification:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;we predict that we should never find elephants on any Pacific islands, even though they would survive well there.&#8221;</p>
<p>Apparently finding elephants on Pacific Islands would be a falsification of macroevolutionary theory.</p>
<p>Quoting from this blog:</p>
<p>&#8220;Boats seem to have been essential for getting to Flores, which speaks of a pretty impressive mental capacity for Homo erectus . (On the other hand, lizards and elephants and other land animals got to the island without a boat&#8211;perhaps by swimming being swept away on logs during storms.)&#8221;</p>
<p>Whoops!  One can imagine how a Creationist speaker would love to add this to his arsenal.  First the evolutionists say that finding elephants on a remote Pacific island would &#8220;falsify&#8221; the theory, then, when elephants are found, the explanation is that they were swimming while holding on to logs in storms.  Of course! The theory of evolution has been saved again!</p>
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		<title>By: James Bass</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2004/10/26/island-of-the-lost-hominids/comment-page-1/#comment-1440</link>
		<dc:creator>James Bass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This discovery is truly fascinating.  Logic would lead one to believe that it shows Homo erectus survived even longer than we have thought.  Which leads me to think that it might be presumptuous to name this a different species.  Although I believe I read that no genetic material had been isolated yet, I assume that it eventually will be.  Comparison of mitochondrial DNA with Homo erectus should provide some interesting information.

Since this homonid evolved before the end of the last ice age, would it have necessarily have been isolated by water?  I am not familiar with the exact geographical changes around the island of Flores, but I thought many of the land masses of Indonesia were connected prior to the end of the ice age 15,000 years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This discovery is truly fascinating.  Logic would lead one to believe that it shows Homo erectus survived even longer than we have thought.  Which leads me to think that it might be presumptuous to name this a different species.  Although I believe I read that no genetic material had been isolated yet, I assume that it eventually will be.  Comparison of mitochondrial DNA with Homo erectus should provide some interesting information.</p>
<p>Since this homonid evolved before the end of the last ice age, would it have necessarily have been isolated by water?  I am not familiar with the exact geographical changes around the island of Flores, but I thought many of the land masses of Indonesia were connected prior to the end of the ice age 15,000 years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a little confused about their brain size.  If they lost half their height, and their brain shrunk proportionally, it would be an eighth of the original size.  Since they were actually a third of the previous size, weren&#039;t their brains larger than expected?  Or do brains not scale like this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a little confused about their brain size.  If they lost half their height, and their brain shrunk proportionally, it would be an eighth of the original size.  Since they were actually a third of the previous size, weren&#8217;t their brains larger than expected?  Or do brains not scale like this?</p>
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		<title>By: Jackmormon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackmormon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2004 04:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for an informative post.  I was directed here by a commenter at Crooked Timber, and I suspected that this was an important breakthrough but didn&#039;t know exactly why.  You&#039;ve done a great job of clarifying the scientific stakes in this discovery, and I look forward to reading more of your work in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for an informative post.  I was directed here by a commenter at Crooked Timber, and I suspected that this was an important breakthrough but didn&#8217;t know exactly why.  You&#8217;ve done a great job of clarifying the scientific stakes in this discovery, and I look forward to reading more of your work in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Manifold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Manifold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Great&lt;/i&gt; post, Carl.  Re your last paragraph, for an example a bit closer to home, I recall reading (probably in &lt;i&gt;Science News&lt;/i&gt;) some years ago that present-day domesticated cats have brains only half the size of their wild ancestors, &lt;i&gt;ca&lt;/i&gt; 20,000 years BP.  In my more cynical moments, I wonder how much stupider people have gotten since the invention of agriculture ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Great</i> post, Carl.  Re your last paragraph, for an example a bit closer to home, I recall reading (probably in <i>Science News</i>) some years ago that present-day domesticated cats have brains only half the size of their wild ancestors, <i>ca</i> 20,000 years BP.  In my more cynical moments, I wonder how much stupider people have gotten since the invention of agriculture &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: vernaculo</title>
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		<dc:creator>vernaculo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks PZ. That makes the next question for me, as curious dilettante - how many other bands, or tribes of cousins have there been? Boy howdy.
&quot;(perhaps to kill Homo floresiensis?)&quot; seeming a likely interpretation, if not here certainly for the Neanderthal, and how many others?
So are we different now? Or just enjoying the peaceful aftermath of our violent successes?
Do the Bushmen of the Kalahari have the right to that moral regard?
How dispassionately can science view that extermination?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks PZ. That makes the next question for me, as curious dilettante &#8211; how many other bands, or tribes of cousins have there been? Boy howdy.<br />
&#8220;(perhaps to kill Homo floresiensis?)&#8221; seeming a likely interpretation, if not here certainly for the Neanderthal, and how many others?<br />
So are we different now? Or just enjoying the peaceful aftermath of our violent successes?<br />
Do the Bushmen of the Kalahari have the right to that moral regard?<br />
How dispassionately can science view that extermination?</p>
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		<title>By: PZ Myers</title>
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		<dc:creator>PZ Myers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;ve got EIGHT specimens.  This is not a single strange skeleton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;ve got EIGHT specimens.  This is not a single strange skeleton.</p>
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		<title>By: vernaculo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2004/10/26/island-of-the-lost-hominids/comment-page-1/#comment-1434</link>
		<dc:creator>vernaculo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How long would it take to produce a dwarf Rotweiler that bred true? In dog years?
Is there an assumption that any fossil is representative? So that what may have been a freak driven off to the margin is assumed to be right out of the heart of the species?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long would it take to produce a dwarf Rotweiler that bred true? In dog years?<br />
Is there an assumption that any fossil is representative? So that what may have been a freak driven off to the margin is assumed to be right out of the heart of the species?</p>
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		<title>By: William Gruzenski</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2004/10/26/island-of-the-lost-hominids/comment-page-1/#comment-1433</link>
		<dc:creator>William Gruzenski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anything--anything--is possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anything&#8211;anything&#8211;is possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Wilson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2004/10/26/island-of-the-lost-hominids/comment-page-1/#comment-1432</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How reliable is this find?  Any chance it could be another Piltdown Man?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How reliable is this find?  Any chance it could be another Piltdown Man?</p>
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