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	<title>Comments on: Return to Hobbit Limbo</title>
	<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/06/15/return-to-hobbit-limbo/</link>
	<description>A blog about life, past and future. Written by DISCOVER contributing editor and columnist Carl Zimmer.</description>
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		<title>By: Jason Malloy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/06/15/return-to-hobbit-limbo/#comment-7273</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Malloy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/06/15/return-to-hobbit-limbo/#comment-7273</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;"OK that put aside this is all about protecting Islam and yes, Teuku Jacob is a crypto-creationist in line with the usual balancing between fundamentalism and an Islam that pretends being modern"&lt;/i&gt;

At least try to have an ounce of real evidence beyond someone's ethnicity if you are going to make wild accusations like this. If he was a Creationist he would've arranged for Duane Gish or William Dembski to analyze the bones, not Alan Thorne and Maciej Henneberg*.

*http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/02/24/return_of_the_prodigal_bones/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;OK that put aside this is all about protecting Islam and yes, Teuku Jacob is a crypto-creationist in line with the usual balancing between fundamentalism and an Islam that pretends being modern&#8221;</i></p>
<p>At least try to have an ounce of real evidence beyond someone&#8217;s ethnicity if you are going to make wild accusations like this. If he was a Creationist he would&#8217;ve arranged for Duane Gish or William Dembski to analyze the bones, not Alan Thorne and Maciej Henneberg*.</p>
<p>*http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/02/24/return_of_the_prodigal_bones/</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Klevius</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/06/15/return-to-hobbit-limbo/#comment-7272</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Klevius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/06/15/return-to-hobbit-limbo/#comment-7272</guid>
		<description>A stunning photo that really makes one think abt M130 and brain qualities (regardless of size)!

OK that put aside this is all about protecting Islam and yes, Teuku Jacob is a crypto-creationist in line with the usual balancing between fundamentalism and an Islam that pretends being modern (By the way, Australia has already a law making it impossible to critisize Islam!).

Take a look at Out of Africa as Pygmies and back as global "Mongoloids". Maybe the Hobbit represents the first OOA-delivey of a more wrinkled brain that later replaced all the other?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A stunning photo that really makes one think abt M130 and brain qualities (regardless of size)!</p>
<p>OK that put aside this is all about protecting Islam and yes, Teuku Jacob is a crypto-creationist in line with the usual balancing between fundamentalism and an Islam that pretends being modern (By the way, Australia has already a law making it impossible to critisize Islam!).</p>
<p>Take a look at Out of Africa as Pygmies and back as global &#8220;Mongoloids&#8221;. Maybe the Hobbit represents the first OOA-delivey of a more wrinkled brain that later replaced all the other?</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/06/15/return-to-hobbit-limbo/#comment-7271</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2005 15:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/06/15/return-to-hobbit-limbo/#comment-7271</guid>
		<description>These remains are now the center of a substantial international controversy.  Indonesia&#146;s Professor Teuku Jacob, who had allegedly agreed to return the bones (to the Australian team which made the discovery) by 1 January this year, finally returned them on 23 February.

However, while the bones were in his custody, he permitted two other Australian scientists to study them in detail&#151;Dr Alan Thorne of the Australian National University, and Professor Maciej Henneberg, of the Department of Anatomical Sciences at the University of Adelaide.  The discoverers have protested loudly at the alleged impropriety of this pair studying &#145;stolen remains&#146;.

Following their three-day examination of the most complete specimen, Professor Henneberg said it confirmed his previous opinion, gained from studying the reports, that this was a modern human who had a brain-shrinking disorder called microcephaly.  He is reported as saying that there is now &#145;absolutely no doubt that this person had a growth disorder.&#146;

&lt;a href="http://smh.com.au/news/Science/Hobbit-just-a-little-man-with-small-brain/2005/02/18/1108709439138.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;a href="http://smh.com.au/news/Science/Hobbit-just-a-little-man-with-small-brain/2005/02/18/1108709439138.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://smh.com.au/news/Science/Hobbit-just-a-little-man-with-small-brain/2005/02/18/1108709439138.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Whether the tiny people of Flores were indeed microcephalic modern types, or whether they represent a pygmy version of so-called Homo erectus, the point is really the same.  Namely, that there is no reason not to classify them all&#151;the Flores inhabitants as well as H. erectus&#151;as Homo sapiens&#151;part of the range of variation found within a single species (see also Skull wars: new &#145;Homo erectus&#146; skull in Ethiopia).

In fact, evolutionist Alan Thorne is one of those who, along with the University of Michigan&#146;s Milford Wolpoff, has been saying for years to his paleoanthropological colleagues that, even though they believe that H. erectus evolved into modern humans, it is wrong to assign a separate species name to it.   Thorne and Henneberg are natural allies in this; Henneberg has recently published his findings that if you bunch all the &#145;apemen&#146; in together, they exhibit the range of variation one would normally find within a single species!

Henneberg M., de Miguel C., Hominins are a single lineage: brain and body size variability does not reflect postulated taxonomic diversity of hominins, Homo. 55(1&#150;2):21&#150;37, 2004.

&lt;a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&#38;db=pubmed&#38;dopt=Abstract&#38;list_uids=15553266" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&#38;db=pubmed&#38;dopt=Abstract&#38;list_uids=15553266" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&#38;db=pubmed&#38;dopt=Abstract&#38;list_uids=15553266&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These remains are now the center of a substantial international controversy.  Indonesia&#8217;s Professor Teuku Jacob, who had allegedly agreed to return the bones (to the Australian team which made the discovery) by 1 January this year, finally returned them on 23 February.</p>
<p>However, while the bones were in his custody, he permitted two other Australian scientists to study them in detail&#8212;Dr Alan Thorne of the Australian National University, and Professor Maciej Henneberg, of the Department of Anatomical Sciences at the University of Adelaide.  The discoverers have protested loudly at the alleged impropriety of this pair studying &#8216;stolen remains&#8217;.</p>
<p>Following their three-day examination of the most complete specimen, Professor Henneberg said it confirmed his previous opinion, gained from studying the reports, that this was a modern human who had a brain-shrinking disorder called microcephaly.  He is reported as saying that there is now &#8216;absolutely no doubt that this person had a growth disorder.&#8217;</p>
<p><a href="http://smh.com.au/news/Science/Hobbit-just-a-little-man-with-small-brain/2005/02/18/1108709439138.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://smh.com.au/news/Science/Hobbit-just-a-little-man-with-small-brain/2005/02/18/1108709439138.html" rel="nofollow">http://smh.com.au/news/Science/Hobbit-just-a-little-man-with-small-brain/2005/02/18/1108709439138.html</a></p>
<p>Whether the tiny people of Flores were indeed microcephalic modern types, or whether they represent a pygmy version of so-called Homo erectus, the point is really the same.  Namely, that there is no reason not to classify them all&#8212;the Flores inhabitants as well as H. erectus&#8212;as Homo sapiens&#8212;part of the range of variation found within a single species (see also Skull wars: new &#8216;Homo erectus&#8217; skull in Ethiopia).</p>
<p>In fact, evolutionist Alan Thorne is one of those who, along with the University of Michigan&#8217;s Milford Wolpoff, has been saying for years to his paleoanthropological colleagues that, even though they believe that H. erectus evolved into modern humans, it is wrong to assign a separate species name to it.   Thorne and Henneberg are natural allies in this; Henneberg has recently published his findings that if you bunch all the &#8216;apemen&#8217; in together, they exhibit the range of variation one would normally find within a single species!</p>
<p>Henneberg M., de Miguel C., Hominins are a single lineage: brain and body size variability does not reflect postulated taxonomic diversity of hominins, Homo. 55(1&#8211;2):21&#8211;37, 2004.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&amp;db=pubmed&amp;dopt=Abstract&amp;list_uids=15553266" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&amp;db=pubmed&amp;dopt=Abstract&amp;list_uids=15553266" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&amp;db=pubmed&amp;dopt=Abstract&amp;list_uids=15553266</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kyra</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/06/15/return-to-hobbit-limbo/#comment-7270</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2005 03:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/06/15/return-to-hobbit-limbo/#comment-7270</guid>
		<description>"argues that evolution cannot 'go backward' and produce a human with a smaller brain."

It isn't a question of evolution going forward or backward, because evolution has no direction except towards better adaptation to the current environment.

People sometimes think evolution means everything is evolving with some concrete goal in mind--that organisms change only to become smarter, faster, stronger, or what have you.  This is obviously what Teuku Jacob thinks, and he fits perfectly Ambrose Bierce's definition of positive: mistaken at the top of one's voice.

A being with a smaller, less complex brain requires a smaller amount of resources to support it than one with a larger, more complex brain.  In an environment where resources are limited, a being that needs less will be more likely to survive.  Thus, what Jacob calls "backward" is, in such an environment, actually going "forward" toward better adaptation to the environment.

Natural selection provides for survival of the species, not for how "advanced" a species can get before it goes extinct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;argues that evolution cannot &#8216;go backward&#8217; and produce a human with a smaller brain.&#8221;</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t a question of evolution going forward or backward, because evolution has no direction except towards better adaptation to the current environment.</p>
<p>People sometimes think evolution means everything is evolving with some concrete goal in mind&#8211;that organisms change only to become smarter, faster, stronger, or what have you.  This is obviously what Teuku Jacob thinks, and he fits perfectly Ambrose Bierce&#8217;s definition of positive: mistaken at the top of one&#8217;s voice.</p>
<p>A being with a smaller, less complex brain requires a smaller amount of resources to support it than one with a larger, more complex brain.  In an environment where resources are limited, a being that needs less will be more likely to survive.  Thus, what Jacob calls &#8220;backward&#8221; is, in such an environment, actually going &#8220;forward&#8221; toward better adaptation to the environment.</p>
<p>Natural selection provides for survival of the species, not for how &#8220;advanced&#8221; a species can get before it goes extinct.</p>
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		<title>By: Torfinn &#216;rmen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/06/15/return-to-hobbit-limbo/#comment-7269</link>
		<dc:creator>Torfinn &#216;rmen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/06/15/return-to-hobbit-limbo/#comment-7269</guid>
		<description>Something is very odd. If quoted correctly Jacob is now saying that the damage to the bones happened on the way to Yogyakarta (when the bones were in Jacob's custody), while he earlier said that it was the original researchers who were careless and  damaged the bones themselves. Prof. Henneberg saw the bones in Jacob's lab before they were returned and when asked (on a mailing list) he stated that the bones were not damaged when he saw them. Jacob has also denied that his people made casts, but one working in his lab has admitted to making a cast of the LB1 mandible. It looks like someone is not telling the whole truth about what happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something is very odd. If quoted correctly Jacob is now saying that the damage to the bones happened on the way to Yogyakarta (when the bones were in Jacob&#8217;s custody), while he earlier said that it was the original researchers who were careless and  damaged the bones themselves. Prof. Henneberg saw the bones in Jacob&#8217;s lab before they were returned and when asked (on a mailing list) he stated that the bones were not damaged when he saw them. Jacob has also denied that his people made casts, but one working in his lab has admitted to making a cast of the LB1 mandible. It looks like someone is not telling the whole truth about what happened.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Metcalfe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/06/15/return-to-hobbit-limbo/#comment-7268</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Metcalfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 12:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/06/15/return-to-hobbit-limbo/#comment-7268</guid>
		<description>I think the Australian research team might have been more cautious with their claims until more evidence was in. They have extensively pumped the television and news coverage of their discoveries, and long before we had the brain case scans (which themselves are open to some interpretation) we had the discoverers and their buddies at Discovery and Nature telling tales of a heroic hobbit race sailing the Pacific on rafts and hunting pygmy elephants, forming the basis for local legends, finding and destroying the Ring of Power, etc -- all this on the grounds of one skull. The science has been hidden by spin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Australian research team might have been more cautious with their claims until more evidence was in. They have extensively pumped the television and news coverage of their discoveries, and long before we had the brain case scans (which themselves are open to some interpretation) we had the discoverers and their buddies at Discovery and Nature telling tales of a heroic hobbit race sailing the Pacific on rafts and hunting pygmy elephants, forming the basis for local legends, finding and destroying the Ring of Power, etc &#8212; all this on the grounds of one skull. The science has been hidden by spin.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Malloy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/06/15/return-to-hobbit-limbo/#comment-7267</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Malloy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/06/15/return-to-hobbit-limbo/#comment-7267</guid>
		<description>My links never work. Here they are in order of appearance:

&lt;a href="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/archives/2005/03/03/the_hobbits_brain/" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/archives/2005/03/03/the_hobbits_brain/" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/03/03/the_hobbits_brain/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href="http://pharyngula.org/index/weblog/print/1998" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;a href="http://pharyngula.org/index/weblog/print/1998" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://pharyngula.org/index/weblog/print/1998&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href="http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa004&#38;articleID=00082F87-7D35-117E-BD3583414B7F0000&#38;pageNumber=2&#38;catID=4" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa004&#38;articleID=00082F87-7D35-117E-BD3583414B7F0000&#38;pageNumber=2&#38;catID=4" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa004&#38;articleID=00082F87-7D35-117E-BD3583414B7F0000&#38;pageNumber=2&#38;catID=4&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Heh. Dinosaurism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My links never work. Here they are in order of appearance:</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/archives/2005/03/03/the_hobbits_brain/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/archives/2005/03/03/the_hobbits_brain/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/03/03/the_hobbits_brain/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://pharyngula.org/index/weblog/print/1998" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://pharyngula.org/index/weblog/print/1998" rel="nofollow">http://pharyngula.org/index/weblog/print/1998</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa004&amp;articleID=00082F87-7D35-117E-BD3583414B7F0000&amp;pageNumber=2&amp;catID=4" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa004&amp;articleID=00082F87-7D35-117E-BD3583414B7F0000&amp;pageNumber=2&amp;catID=4" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa004&amp;articleID=00082F87-7D35-117E-BD3583414B7F0000&amp;pageNumber=2&amp;catID=4</a></p>
<p>Heh. Dinosaurism.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Malloy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/06/15/return-to-hobbit-limbo/#comment-7266</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Malloy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/06/15/return-to-hobbit-limbo/#comment-7266</guid>
		<description>"Can an unfossilized deformed skull possibly live up to the crown of "missing link"?"

This is misleading. The question isn't about "the missing link" but if the bones are human or hominid. There is only 1 skull but there are other bones from 6 separate specimens. The skull isn't the only part of the skeleton with pertinent information. The &lt;a&gt;brain cast&lt;/a&gt; is nearly identical to the &lt;a&gt;erectus brain cast&lt;/a&gt;, and the non-skull &lt;a&gt;bones are distinctly erectine&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;i&gt;" . . . It has a suite of clearly archaic traits which are replicated in a variety of early hominids and these archaic traits are not found in any abnormal humans which have ever been recorded. We now have the remains of 5 or 6 other individuals from the site, so it's not just one. There's a population of these things now and they all share the same features."&lt;/i&gt;

A pathology explanation appears highly in doubt.

Further the issue goes beyond this scientific debate to the issues of hording and damaging rare and priceless specimens, and abusing governmental authority to effectively cut-off further exploration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Can an unfossilized deformed skull possibly live up to the crown of &#8220;missing link&#8221;?&#8221;</p>
<p>This is misleading. The question isn&#8217;t about &#8220;the missing link&#8221; but if the bones are human or hominid. There is only 1 skull but there are other bones from 6 separate specimens. The skull isn&#8217;t the only part of the skeleton with pertinent information. The <a>brain cast</a> is nearly identical to the <a>erectus brain cast</a>, and the non-skull <a>bones are distinctly erectine</a>:</p>
<p><i>&#8221; . . . It has a suite of clearly archaic traits which are replicated in a variety of early hominids and these archaic traits are not found in any abnormal humans which have ever been recorded. We now have the remains of 5 or 6 other individuals from the site, so it&#8217;s not just one. There&#8217;s a population of these things now and they all share the same features.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>A pathology explanation appears highly in doubt.</p>
<p>Further the issue goes beyond this scientific debate to the issues of hording and damaging rare and priceless specimens, and abusing governmental authority to effectively cut-off further exploration.</p>
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		<title>By: snaxalotl</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/06/15/return-to-hobbit-limbo/#comment-7265</link>
		<dc:creator>snaxalotl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/06/15/return-to-hobbit-limbo/#comment-7265</guid>
		<description>yew darwinianists har all gonna BURN IN HELL dontchew know there are no proof dinosuars cos "dinosuar" fossils har all unfotunate peoples with bad case of dinosuarism, arthritis and hooping cough</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yew darwinianists har all gonna BURN IN HELL dontchew know there are no proof dinosuars cos &#8220;dinosuar&#8221; fossils har all unfotunate peoples with bad case of dinosuarism, arthritis and hooping cough</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/06/15/return-to-hobbit-limbo/#comment-7264</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 08:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/06/15/return-to-hobbit-limbo/#comment-7264</guid>
		<description>The whole situation sounds a bit like the three stooges tackling paleoanthropology to me. One wonders if its worth all the trouble? Can an unfossilized deformed skull possibly live up to the crown of "missing link"?
Another skeptic who may have better credentials than Jacob, Professor Maciej Henneberg points out emphatically that among the remains, there is only a single skull. This leaves open the possibility of a pathological explanation. This &lt;a href="http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2005/s1315628.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;short debate on Australia's Lateline&lt;/a&gt; is entertaining and a little informative. Its also amusing when "hobbit" team member Professor Richard Roberts breaks down towards the end as he defends his position. The entire scenario illustrates a major problem in the field of human evolution. Researchers often seem to lose their objectivity to "protect" their evolutionary niche. Rather than cooperation to find the ultimate truth they resort to selfish and petty tactics to be the first to publish. Its the yellow journalism of science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole situation sounds a bit like the three stooges tackling paleoanthropology to me. One wonders if its worth all the trouble? Can an unfossilized deformed skull possibly live up to the crown of &#8220;missing link&#8221;?<br />
Another skeptic who may have better credentials than Jacob, Professor Maciej Henneberg points out emphatically that among the remains, there is only a single skull. This leaves open the possibility of a pathological explanation. This <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2005/s1315628.htm" rel="nofollow">short debate on Australia&#8217;s Lateline</a> is entertaining and a little informative. Its also amusing when &#8220;hobbit&#8221; team member Professor Richard Roberts breaks down towards the end as he defends his position. The entire scenario illustrates a major problem in the field of human evolution. Researchers often seem to lose their objectivity to &#8220;protect&#8221; their evolutionary niche. Rather than cooperation to find the ultimate truth they resort to selfish and petty tactics to be the first to publish. Its the yellow journalism of science.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Kimmerer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/06/15/return-to-hobbit-limbo/#comment-7263</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Kimmerer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 03:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/06/15/return-to-hobbit-limbo/#comment-7263</guid>
		<description>I wasn't suggesting that Pak Jacob himself is an Islamic creationist, but that the structure of Indonesian science institutions including LIPI has an anti-evolutionary bias.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t suggesting that Pak Jacob himself is an Islamic creationist, but that the structure of Indonesian science institutions including LIPI has an anti-evolutionary bias.</p>
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		<title>By: John Wilkins</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/06/15/return-to-hobbit-limbo/#comment-7262</link>
		<dc:creator>John Wilkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 02:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2005/06/15/return-to-hobbit-limbo/#comment-7262</guid>
		<description>Jacob's team, more reprehensibly, damaged the &lt;b&gt;pelvis&lt;/b&gt; beyound repair. This affects the ability of researchers to reconstruct the stance of the Hobbit (I really hate that name), and also to determine if the birth canal matches the head morphology. [According to Colin Groves, a primatologist and specialist in human evolution.]</description>
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